Macross F (Frontier) information and preview video.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2008-04-10 09:38pm

Hooray second episode is out! That only took four months, but hey.

So I took some screencaps of some interesting things in this episode.

Mikhail's VF-25 with sniper rifle.

Search and rescue Detroids. They sorta looked like the Destroid Cheyenne from Macross Zero.

Princess Alto, the early years.

Also we get to see how a New Macross class deals with a breach in the City section's dome. There's some kind of liquid metal style seal. Props to this episode for having Fire Bomber's Totsugeki LOVE HEART playing on the radio in Ozuma's sweet space Honda.

tim31 · Post by **tim31** » 2008-04-10 10:21pm

So spoil it for me... How does Alto prevail in regards to the events at the end of the first episode?

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2008-04-10 10:39pm

He had a little help from Ozuma. Full Armor style help

tim31 · Post by **tim31** » 2008-04-11 04:38am

Awesome

Nothing like open missile pods to make a rational person rethink their present strategy.

McC · Post by **McC** » 2008-04-11 12:22pm

Does one need to have seen M0 or M7 to watch MF?

Rambling
Macross is one of my (very few) totally guilt-free anime pleasures (AnimEigo's SDF:M DVD box set sits on my shelf next to an import of the DYRL DVD and the two-disc M+ set; a 2012 VHS sits on the shelf in my parents' house, and I'm planning to get ADV's SDF:M DVD sets in the near future), but I've had a hard as hell time tracking down M7. I recently got ahold of M0, but haven't had a chance to watch it yet.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2008-04-11 12:48pm

Why would you want ADV's set? It's almost exactly the same as the Animeigo set.

Right now the only thing that is from Macross 7 and Zero are some in jokes. However, they may be moving towards stronger ties with M0 if some of my hunches are correct. I must caution you that if you watch M0, please skim or skip episode 4 and you'll have a much better experience with it.

McC · Post by **McC** » 2008-04-11 12:54pm

VF5SS wrote:Why would you want ADV's set? It's almost exactly the same as the Animeigo set.

It was my understanding that the picture transfer is better.

I'm also trying to introduce my girlfriend to Macross, and I'm not sure she has the patience to watch 36 subtitled episodes; the ADV ones have what appears to be the best (and only?) dub for the series.

Of course, like any good purist, I prefer the subtitled versions.

Right now the only thing that is from Macross 7 and Zero are some in jokes. However, they may be moving towards stronger ties with M0 if some of my hunches are correct. I must caution you that if you watch M0, please skim or skip episode 4 and you'll have a much better experience with it.

Eh, I'll happily take the good with the bad. But at least now I'll know to squint a bit harder when episode 4 comes around.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2008-04-11 01:16pm

McC wrote: It was my understanding that the picture transfer is better.

I've heard it was the same quality. Weird. Of course, nothing is gonna touch the eventual HD release in Japan.

I'm also trying to introduce my girlfriend to Macross, and I'm not sure she has the patience to watch 36 subtitled episodes; the ADV ones have what appears to be the best (and only?) dub for the series.

The only other proper English dub for the series was one tape Harmony Gold released way back before they decided to fuck it all up. And even then they decided Hikaru should be "Rick Yamada." I guess you can enjoy Mari Ijima's horrible attempts at English voice acting and the rest of the cast's inability to pronounce the word "Macross." Also all new GI Joe sound effects in the 5.1 mix.

Eh, I'll happily take the good with the bad. But at least now I'll know to squint a bit harder when episode 4 comes around. ;)

Watch out for the flying bird fish logs.

Speaking of DVDs, Macross Frontier is going to be onDVD and Blu-Ray and we're going to get a Yak Deculture edition of the first episode which will contain everything from the Deculture edition and the broadcast edition.

McC · Post by **McC** » 2008-04-11 01:23pm

VF5SS wrote:The only other proper English dub for the series was one tape Harmony Gold released way back before they decided to fuck it all up. And even then they decided Hikaru should be "Rick Yamada." I guess you can enjoy Mari Ijima's horrible attempts at English voice acting and the rest of the cast's inability to pronounce the word "Macross." Also all new GI Joe sound effects in the 5.1 mix.

...wow. That bad, huh?

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2008-04-11 02:13pm

McC wrote: ...wow. That bad, huh?

I never knew it was this bad.

Macross is hard to bring into the modern world sound wise. The whole thing was recorded in mono way back in 1982.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2008-04-11 02:24pm

Ha ha ha, "M'cross"...

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2008-04-11 02:30pm

Whacha talkin' bout Skipper?

You know, those Hong Kong dubbers who did DYRL got it right. And in the ADV dub, Mari Ijima is the only one who could pronounce anything correctly.

McC · Post by **McC** » 2008-04-11 02:46pm

VF5SS wrote:
McC wrote: ...wow. That bad, huh?
I never knew it was this bad.

Macross is hard to bring into the modern world sound wise. The whole thing was recorded in mono way back in 1982.

Wow.

Right, you just saved me some money. Thanks!

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2008-04-11 02:59pm

You're welcome. And be sure to watch this jet jockey in action.

McC · Post by **McC** » 2008-04-11 03:13pm

VF5SS wrote:You're welcome. And be sure to watch this jet jockey in action.

I have to confess, my first exposure to Macross was Clash of the Bionoids.

I have a VHS of the full DYRL dub at my parents' house, too.

Xess · Post by **Xess** » 2008-04-11 04:12pm

So is it worth watching so far? I'm on a huge Macross kick so I'd like to know what parts of the franchise are worth going for.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2008-04-11 05:09pm

VF5SS wrote:Whacha talkin' bout Skipper?

You know, those Hong Kong dubbers who did DYRL got it right. And in the ADV dub, Mari Ijima is the only one who could pronounce anything correctly.

Crummy dubbing is pretty much the standard course for ADV. What bothers me more are the "GI Joe sound effects," as you phrased them.

It's really annoying to watch something like that, hearing oddly characteristic sound effects like "Tch-ch-ch-ch-chooo!" and "that one bouncing metallic ricochet" you know shouldn't be there and clearly don't belong.

And what the hell's up with the Zentradi voices not being echoed or distorted?

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2008-04-11 06:02pm

VF5SS wrote:
I never knew it was this bad.

Macross is hard to bring into the modern world sound wise. The whole thing was recorded in mono way back in 1982.

It's like looking into the future... a future filled with crap. Generic, badly voiced, recycled crap. But with '80s anime flair.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2008-04-11 06:20pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
And what the hell's up with the Zentradi voices not being echoed or distorted? :(

I dunno, but Kamjin saying, "HAVE AT THEM!" was pretty funny. And what's with Hikaru's lisp? It sounds like he has asthma or something.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2008-04-11 07:22pm

VF5SS wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
And what the hell's up with the Zentradi voices not being echoed or distorted?
I dunno, but Kamjin saying, "HAVE AT THEM!" was pretty funny.

I like how Kamjin's VA is trying a little too hard to sound like an obvious villain, compared to the original's general badass jerkery.

And what's with Hikaru's lisp? It sounds like he has asthma or something.

Half of everyone sounds like either some kind of hick or buffoon, really.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2008-04-11 10:27pm

Xess wrote:So is it worth watching so far? I'm on a huge Macross kick so I'd like to know what parts of the franchise are worth going for.

Would this face lie to you?

tim31 · Post by **tim31** » 2008-04-12 02:12am

VF5SS wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
And what the hell's up with the Zentradi voices not being echoed or distorted?
I dunno, but Kamjin saying, "HAVE AT THEM!" was pretty funny. And what's with Hikaru's lisp? It sounds like he has asthma or something.

I loved the Stewie Griffin cameo: "Victory shall be mine!"

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2008-04-12 03:59am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
VF5SS wrote:Whacha talkin' bout Skipper?

You know, those Hong Kong dubbers who did DYRL got it right. And in the ADV dub, Mari Ijima is the only one who could pronounce anything correctly.
Crummy dubbing is pretty much the standard course for ADV. What bothers me more are the "GI Joe sound effects," as you phrased them.

It's really annoying to watch something like that, hearing oddly characteristic sound effects like "Tch-ch-ch-ch-chooo!" and "that one bouncing metallic ricochet" you know shouldn't be there and clearly don't belong.

Why would they even do that? Doesn't that just make more work for them?

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2008-04-12 04:16am

Also, I just looked up some Robotech videos on Youtube, having not seen them before... did... did Robotech actually get the voice echo down better than the ADV dub?

tim31 · Post by **tim31** » 2008-04-12 05:10am

I personally think so.