Doctor Who S30E02: The Fires Of Pompeii [Spoilers]

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Always fun to go read here, and play match the tid-bits mentioned on the show to stuff DrWho:EU has covered.
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One thing that caught me a bit was how inaccurately was the family portrayed: in a Roman family, the man was the lord of the house and there was simply no arguing with him. He held strict authority and would have not tolerated his wife and children talking back to them as they did in the show.

But then again, who says that every family was like that? It was likely that the guy was just a wuss by the time's standards.

Personally, I am not that terribly impressed. I just wish that a little less technobabble is present in the episodes.
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Zixinus wrote:One thing that caught me a bit was how inaccurately was the family portrayed: in a Roman family, the man was the lord of the house and there was simply no arguing with him. He held strict authority and would have not tolerated his wife and children talking back to them as they did in the show.

But then again, who says that every family was like that? It was likely that the guy was just a wuss by the time's standards.
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MUCH better. Tate's character has the potential to bring a lot of the Doctor's angst to the surface. Her lack of fawning over the Doctor means she can genuinely challenge his conduct in a way that hasn't happened since Rose did so in Dalek.
Please, please, PLEASE don't introduce any romance between these two.

and Zixinus, we have some idea of how Roman society believed itself to be and how it wished to portray itself. This does not mean that this was how every family unit behaved.

Thoroughly enjoyable imo.

OT, what was the Beeb apologising for at the start of the programme? I fast-forwarded that bit.
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OT, what was the Beeb apologising for at the start of the programme? I fast-forwarded that bit.
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The Fawlty Towers reference was the highlight of the episode.

Otherwise, it was good to see Tate's character contribute more in one episode than Martha did for at least half a season. :P
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This just aired in the US last night, so I'm bumping the thread :-P

I am still cringing at Donna... there's just something about her that I really don't like. Her actions in the volcano made up for it, however, as she realized that they really had no choice.

But convincing the Doctor to go back to save the family was also the right choice imho.
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Gandalf wrote:The Fawlty Towers reference was the highlight of the episode.

Otherwise, it was good to see Tate's character contribute more in one episode than Martha did for at least half a season. :P
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Where was the Fawlty Towers reference?
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Was I the only one who particularly liked the bit at the beginning when he mentioned his role the Fire of Rome? It's really neat the way the writers are sticking in tiny references to earlier stories like that. It makes for a subtle yet realistic sense of continuity. I really hope it was the writers and not just Tennant ad-libbing.


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I don't think it used Welsh (or ancient Brittonic) but rather didn't translate the phrase at all. If it sounded exactly the same to the Roman as it did to us, Donna's pronunciation would have been very foreign to him. He probably heard the v sound and decided it must be Celtic.
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LadyTevar wrote:This just aired in the US last night, so I'm bumping the thread :-P

I am still cringing at Donna... there's just something about her that I really don't like. Her actions in the volcano made up for it, however, as she realized that they really had no choice.

But convincing the Doctor to go back to save the family was also the right choice imho.
Personally I've really taken to Donna. It's really refreshing to have someone who does not put the Doctor on such a high pedestal all the time.
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Johonebesus wrote:I don't think it used Welsh (or ancient Brittonic) but rather didn't translate the phrase at all. If it sounded exactly the same to the Roman as it did to us, Donna's pronunciation would have been very foreign to him. He probably heard the v sound and decided it must be Celtic.
She's red haired. Practically the only redheads the romans were familiar with were the celts, to my knowledge...
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