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Is centrism not just annoying, but immoral?

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Maybe I've been losing sight of who I really ought to be concerned about lately, but it seems like moderates/apologists/centrists/whatever get under my skin more than the fundies that they, as the argument goes, give license to behave as they please. There's just something so infuriating about the kind of smugness they exude with their simplistic and naive "why can't we all just get along" bullshit, whereas a fundamentalist is simply pitiable, almost as though they live with a disability. As I see it, a just society would contain their attempts to slant laws to their whims and try to give them the help they need, rather than meet them at the table and delude them into thinking their ideas are fit for consideration. But in order to do this, we'd need the weight held by the apathetic middle and working class, disillusioned with civil affairs and hostile to the seriousness that they demand though they are. A minority of progressives can't do much against a vigorous reactionary movement when they're pinned under the bloat of their nation's middleclass.

I know Vympel likes to read this guy Glenn Greenwald's blog, but when I came across it myself during a google search, it almost perfectly stated what I was thinking:
Glenn Greenwald wrote:Monday March 10, 2008 09:24 EDT
The religion of balance and centrism

For any political commentator perceived to be any strain of "liberal," the first requirement for being accorded Seriousness status by the political and media establishment is "balance." To be deemed a sober and responsible thinker, one must Joe-Klein-ify oneself -- show what a good, thoughtful, decent liberal you are by eagerly spending at least as much of your time praising conservatives and bashing liberals as you do anything else. That's what a reasonable, thoughtful liberal does, by definition.

The converse applies just as rigidly. If you criticize the Right too stridently, condemn the Bush faction without qualification or restraint, or fail to posit an equivalence between Right and Left, then -- regardless of the accuracy or truth of your critique -- you are automatically deemed too partisan, shrill, and, worst of all, Unserious.

But this belief that "balance" and "centrism" are intrinsically sober is itself a deeply corrupt and shallow notion. What if one side really is far more destructive and more toxic than the other -- not even necessarily because one side is more inherently corrupt but just because it exerts far more power? What if the administration and its political followers who happen to be running the country at any given time really are radical extremists and unprecedentedly corrupt and dangerous? Under those circumstances, practicing Beltway "balance" for its own sake -- venerating Broderian "centrism" -- is deeply unserious, even dishonest and dangerous.

When there is grave imbalance in political power, corruption or extremism -- as there has been for the last eight years, at least -- then those who preach balance and demand a centrist critique of everything are the ones who are mindless, misleading partisans. They demand centrist equivalencies as an ideology, regardless of whether those equivalencies are real.

The Paragons of Balance and Centrism are actually often destructive. By design, they prevent exposure of truly radical and extreme political misconduct by demanding that every criticism be restrained, muted, two-sided, drained of intensity, and circumscribed by false equivalencies -- lest the critique be dismissed as a "partisan screed." In this regard, those who insist upon the intrinsic virtues of Balance and Centrism in political commentary are the greatest allies of extremism and the most loyal protectors of the politically corrupt.

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All of this arose by virtue of a discussion in yesterday's comment section of the Publisher's Weekly review of my new book. The book principally criticizes the deceitful electoral tactics of the Right and the ways in which the establishment press enable those tactics. The PW review is posted on the book's Amazon page.

The PW review calls it a "provocative book"; points out that it "purports to expose the rank myth-making and exploitation of cultural, gender and psychological themes by the Republican Party" and that "shouldering much of the blame are the press and the media, including Matt Drudge, Ann Coulter, Chris Matthews and even Maureen Dowd, all of whom propagate popular attitudes about virile Republicans and effeminate Democrats," but it then concludes with this condemnation:

Despite the antipathy the author feels for Coulter, his writing is much like hers. More a partisan screed than a reasoned argument meant to persuade undecided readers, this repetitive text frequently devolves into personal attacks and vast generalizations.

These are the same dismissive phrases that get applied over and over to any critic of the Right who fails to JoeKleinify oneself. Anyone who writes about the radicalism of the Right and the way it has corrupted our public discourse and political institutions -- or who writes about the media's vital participation in that process -- is writing nothing more than a shrill "partisan screed."

The critic who does that is automatically the equivalent of Ann Coulter -- as though the hallmark of Coulter is that she is merely one-sided, rather than the fact that she purposely makes false claims and spews despicable statements -- such as advocating violence against all sorts of political opponents from liberals, Supreme Court justices and "ragheads" -- in order to generate controversy and attention for herself.

Consider the following book reviews of a cross-section of liberals. In every case, the writer is dismissed with the same establishment platitudes -- as a shrill, imbalanced partisan, solely by virtue of the fact that they don't dilute their criticism of the Right with all sorts of equivalent criticisms of the Left, or because they don't display "balance" by acknowledging all the great virtues of the Bush administration and the conservative movement. These are just cliched dismissals, and they are always applied reflexively to any one-sided anti-Right critique without regard to whether the one-sided criticisms are accurate or not:

New York Times review, by David Kennedy, of Paul Krugman's Conscience of a Liberal:

As Krugman sees it, the modern Republican Party has been taken over by radicals. "There hasn't been any corresponding radicalization of the Democratic Party, so the right-wing takeover of the G.O.P. is the underlying cause of today's bitter partisanship." No two to tango for him. . . . .

Indeed, at times he seems more intent on settling his neocon adversaries' hash than on advancing solutions to vexed policy issues. "Yes, Virginia, there is a vast right-wing conspiracy," he writes, a sentence that both stylistically and substantively says much about the shortcomings of this book.

Like the rants of Rush Limbaugh or the films of Michael Moore, Krugman's shrill polemic may hearten the faithful, but it will do little to persuade the unconvinced or to advance the national discussion of the important issues it addresses. It may even deepen the very partisan divide he denounces. Where is the distinguished economist when we need him?


New York Times review, by Jacob Heilbrunn, of Joe Conason's It Can Happen Here:

In his zeal to indict the Republicans, Conason sounds as strident as Karl Rove depicting the Democrats as gutless appeasers.


New York Times review, by Jennifer Senior, of Lewis Lapham's Pretensions to Empire and Sidney Blumenthal's How Bush Rules:

Now, just in time for the midterm elections, the collected columns of two passionate Bush critics, Lewis H. Lapham and Sidney Blumenthal, are landing in bookstores. Both, to varying degrees, suffer from a distorting case of Bush-phobia.

Like his worst counterparts on the right, [Lapham] compares those he doesn’t like to fanatics, as when he refers to David Frum and Richard Perle as "Mufti Frum" and "Mullah Perle," adding, "Provide them with a beard, a turban and a copy of the Koran, and I expect that they wouldn't have much trouble stoning to death a woman discovered in adultery with a cameraman from CBS News."

Possibly, but provide Lapham with a blond wig, stiletto pumps and a copy of "The Fountainhead," and I suspect he wouldn't look much different from Ann Coulter. . . .

But Blumenthal's columns for both Salon and The Guardian of London, gathered together in "How Bush Rules: Chronicles of a Radical Regime," are hardly pitched to win over undecided readers, either. . . .

But their content has also been curated with one aim in mind, and that's to cast the Bush administration in the grimmest possible light . . . . Blumenthal also has a taste for tiresome epithets — he calls Paul Wolfowitz "the neoconservative Robespierre" and compares Bush (yawn) to a cowboy. . . . It's hard to trust a narrator who only and always assumes the worst.

The left has often complained that what it needs isn't polite speech, but voices as pungent as those on the right. Maybe so. But even the angriest people on the right tend to be funny. Books like this one are a depressing reminder of how important it is for writers to have a slight sense of humor about themselves, if they want to be taken at all seriously.


Publishers Weekly review of Sidney Blumenthal's How Bush Rules:

Thus, Blumenthal's most heated rhetoric, like his claim of "a revolt within the military against Bush," winds up feeling overblown.


Washington Post review, by Michael Getler, of Eric Boehlert's Lapdogs:

Another defect is that Lapdogs too frequently appears overtly political; the book is written as though a cadre of Bill Clinton's defenders were its editors. Boehlert's case that a timorous press was intimidated by President Bush frequently rests on comparisons to the media's supposedly more aggressive approach to Clinton and former vice president Al Gore. This is arguable, at best, and the tactic diminishes the book's overall impact.


Slate review, by Jack Schaefer, of Eric Boehlert's Lapdogs:

[Boehlert's] thesis is that "the mainstream news media completely lost their bearings during the Bush years and abdicated their Fourth Estate responsibility to report without fear or favor and to ask uncomfortable questions to people in power." It's such a preposterous and overreaching thesis, I refuse to buy it. . . .

I'll keep this book on my desk and thumb it whenever I need a solid example of Bush-era press perfidy. But I don't have additional use for a book that defines MSM hackery as broadly as Lapdogs.

This is but a small sampling. One finds these same platitudes in reviews of books by virtually every overly strident critic of the Right -- such Naomi Wolf, Frank Rich and Molly Ivins, to say nothing of scholars such as Noam Chomsky and Tony Judt who have been more or less declared persona non grata in establishment circles for being way too far over the decreed line of respectability (no corresponding line exists for commentators on the Right -- see e.g., Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, and Coulter).

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Note that none of these dismissals has anything to do with the accuracy of the writer's critique or how well-documented it is. They just proclaim the critique too extreme and imbalanced, and therefore angry, partisan, overly broad and out of bounds, no different than Limbaugh or Coulter.

This is all just an attempt to limit, control and totally distort political discourse. One is permitted to offer tepid, balanced, respectful critiques of the Bush presidency and the conservative faction that sustained it, but there is a line that one must not cross, regardless of accuracy. Boehlert himself, in writing about the New York Times's dismissive review of Blumenthal's painstakingly well-documented attack on the Bush administration, put it this way:

But what makes this review so irksome is it doubles as a swipe at an entire political movement; a calculated attempt to dismiss and ridicule Bush critics who time and again have been proven right about his incompetence, yet remain MSM targets. Indeed, the Times critique strains mightily to paint Bush critics as "smug," "unglued," "condescending," "berserk", and "not wholly credible" "loathers" who reside beyond the mainstream. . . .

The review does not represent serious journalism or criticism as much as it does the latest round in the MSM game of gotcha against Bush critics who have the nerve to say what most CW-loving media insiders don't want to hear -- Bush's presidency is a radical one and a failed one.

It is the political and media establishment which supported and enabled the Bush presidency and all of its grotesque excesses. They therefore recoil at any commentary that points out the radicalism and deep corruption of the movement they enabled. And they harbor particular scorn for commentary that points out their role in all of it.

Thus, over the last eight years, the "shrill partisan hysterics" are the ones who warned -- accurately -- of the grave dangers of the Iraq War, documented the radical assault on our system of government, complained of the wholesale degradation of our political discourse and institutions, and objected to the complete erosion of our core political values and identity. Conversely, the Serious, Sober Thinkers were -- and remain -- the ones who saw both sides, who understood the good and important things the Bush administration was achieving, who vouched for their good intentions, who refrained from strident criticisms and confined themselves to respectful, balanced, supportive analysis.

In reality, it is the preachers of Centrism and Balance who stand exposed as the deeply irresponsible and mindless enablers of the last eight years. We needed far more unvarnished opposition to the administration and the political establishment that supported it, and far less of the Balanced Bush apologists and Centrist Mavens embodied by the likes of David Broder, Fred Hiatt and Joe Klein.

"Balance" and "centrism" are only virtues when prevailing circumstances are actually balanced and centered. When they're not -- as they haven't been for the last eight years at least -- respectful balance and restrained centrism are delusions, self-regarding luxuries, ones that can be as dangerous and destructive as they are slothful and unserious.
The new Ben Stein agitprop piece on evolution and the bit of creationist rhetoric about simply wanting to innocuously "teach the controversy" makes me start to think pretty firmly that Greenwald is onto something - that while we're pinned under the majority of apathetic centrists who seem to think society maintains itself magically and that vast cataclysmic events or regressions into closed societies are beyond the realm of possibility, we're under serious threat of backsliding. I like to call them "quotards" - people with a kind of murky, poorly defined faith in the status quo who see all activism or expression of political positions as a form of attention-seeking rabble rousing that deserves a knee-jerk fatherly scolding. The Onion has a pretty good piece summing up the kind of people I mean, and they're hardly scarce.

The thing is, I don't want to be directing the brunt of my attention on a group of people who annoy me so much as I know I ought to be directing it at the true threat, and in a case where I loathe something as much as smug centrism, I can't help but think that I might be biased. But it seems to me that without the centrist religion standing between progress and the right to be an idiot, the whole prospect of change is well beyond our means.
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This blog does give an interesting insight into USA politics. Essentially it describes a logic fallacy often used by the media: appeal to non-bias, appeal to pseudo-objectiveness.
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Religious moderates are annoying because they tend to be passive aggressive and provide the necessary covering fire for fundamentalists. Its religious moderates who prevent society from developing better belief systems; the moment their churches start to lose followers, they adapt their teachings and change it slightly to make it sound new while retaining all of the baggage. Just look at all of the new pop-culture religious stuff; they've just changed the preacher and the message is jazzed up but its essentially the same.

They're also annoying because they prevent true criticism of religion. They may deflect issues like suicide bombings by claiming that suicide bombers do what they do because of educational and financial issues. Education and money do affect religiosity but education and money are not the core problem, its religion. Religious moderates prevent people from seeing that all religions are not equal; some are worse than others and some are better than others. But you can't say that though because religious moderates demand respect for their religion.

And religious moderates are certainly immoral. I personally view them as religiously bankrupt in some manners. If you were to ask a religious moderate why they believe in what they believe, they don't cite their holy text but rather, they give subjective answers like "it gives my life a purpose, it gives me a meaning in life." The fundamentalist at least gives a concrete answer as to why they believe: God said to or otherwise you'll burn in hell forever. Don't expect the religious moderate to give this answer though. Sam Harris makes a good argument that goes somewhere like this:

You have a neighbor who digs every Sunday with his family for a large diamond that he believes is somewhere in his backyard. You ask your neighbor why he thinks there is a large diamond and then the neighbor says, "You don't understand, that doesn't really matter, this diamond gives my life meaning," or "I don't want to live in a universe where there wasn't a large diamond buried in the backyard" or "This digging for the diamond gives my family a sense of meaning."

You will of course notice that this is a complete non sequitor to why they believe there is a diamond in their backyard and its this kind of answer that religious moderates will give to you and it will respected by society at large.

Other people will disagree with me, but I view religious moderates as interpreting their holy texts too much. If you're going to be religious, you can't interpret your holy text, it has to be digested as is. Of course, this isn't an endorsement of fundamentalism but rather, simply highlighting why religion must be extinguished; it has barbaric parts but the religious moderate has simply placed it into the closet behind all of the newer, nicer stuff. Of course, the religious moderate cannot disown the barbaric stuff though because it will invalidate all of the stuff that they do like. You cannot accept one part and deny another part or reinterpret its meaning; the word of the creator of the universe cannot be interpreted.
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I think I would take a religious moderate over a fundie. As far as society goes, I don't think the centrist types are pushing for creationism to be taught in schools, or for public prayer, etc. I agree centrists can be annoying, but I think the fundies actually cause far more damage.
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Superman wrote:I think I would take a religious moderate over a fundie. As far as society goes, I don't think the centrist types are pushing for creationism to be taught in schools, or for public prayer, etc. I agree centrists can be annoying, but I think the fundies actually cause far more damage.
I don't think it's that simple, I think the moderates are compounding and shielding their work. What luck will we ever have trying to get fundies to stop being assholes if golden mean wankers keep plopping their bulk in our way?
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The problem isn't with centrists as a whole, some are very intelligent people who have made a rational decision. The problem is with, to borrow the phrase, South Park centrists who are centrist merely to be centrist.

To use an example. Take the debate in the U.S. to Socialize Health Care.

Right Winger: "The Free Market is the only efficient way to ensure cheap and reliable health care gets to the populace. The government should keep its nose out of the health care industry at all costs."

Left Winger: "Health Care should be an inalienable right of all people no matter what the doctor's visit is for, or their income. The government should cover the cost of all health care in the United States."

Now an intelligent centrist would say "The Free Market has demonstrated itself to be a great boon in most fields, and it's only with government intervention (like recently with the food sector) where things tend to go really bad. That being said, just because you're poor doesn't mean that you should be denied any chance of medical care. So, in my opinion, the government should subsidize the medical costs of everyone with a yearly income under, say, $40,000 by taxing the medical bills of the extremely rich."

By contrast the South Park style centrist goes "You're both wrong! The middle position must be correct." (It's amusing that the attitude expressed by South Park is the same attitude you'd find witj pre-school teachers, "Let's not hurt anyone's feelings and find a middle ground." just with a covering of assholishness.)

The first centrist position is a reasoned seemingly intelligent (not that I agree with it) position, and seeks to add to the debate. Anyone who says that he wouldn't be helping is a partisan idiot.

I'd go into how the South Park centrist is an idiot and destructive to the political scene. But it's been done to death already...
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South Park-centrism always impressed me as being a parody of mush-headed-even-handed centrism; the after-school-special music swelling over Kyle or Stan discoursing on how neither side is ever right and the middle way is best strikes me as deliberately highlighting the foolishness of the position.

But of course the fact that I've always interpreted it that way, doesn't necessarily mean that's what Stone and Parker have in mind.

I agree that the middle-of-the-roader, mostly-semi-sane types are a problem, in that they're cover for their more seriously whacked-out co-religionists.

They're the swamp in need of draining, wherein the pathogen-bearing fundie pests multiply...
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By contrast the South Park style centrist goes "You're both wrong! The middle position must be correct." (It's amusing that the attitude expressed by South Park is the same attitude you'd find witj pre-school teachers, "Let's not hurt anyone's feelings and find a middle ground." just with a covering of assholishness.)
And they said that cartoons don't influence the public...
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TithonusSyndrome wrote:I think the moderates are compounding and shielding their work.
Example?
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Superman wrote:
TithonusSyndrome wrote:I think the moderates are compounding and shielding their work.
Example?
The simple fact that they're allowing this ID bunk to see the light of day and let it's proponents "teach the conspiracy" goes to show that their slavish adherence to even-handedness has a cost that genuinely reasonable people wouldn't permit.
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