Anticipating success with their feature film Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, Producers Mark Mathis, Logan Craft and Walt Ruloff have already leaked a teaser trailer for the film's sequel. Their "teach the controversy" slogan seemed to work well in getting the general public to believe that Intelligent Design is a viable alternative scientific theory to Evolution, so the team has moved on to promoting other theories that they feel are being suppressed by the scientific community. Sexpelled: No Intercourse Allowed tells of how Sex Theory has thrived unchallenged in the ivory towers of academia, as the explanation for how new babies are created. Proponents of Stork Theory claim that "Big Sex" has been suppressing their claim that babies are delivered by storks. Furthermore, Stork Theory proponents warn of the serious moral dangers posed by teaching children that sex has a function. They point out that evil dictators such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao all believed in Sex Theory, and they may have even had sex themselves.
There is also a late-breaking new development in the controversy, a new theory called Avian Transportation Theory.
Unlike the original Stork Theory, the modern, sophisticated "Avian Transportation Theory" (ATT) merely points out that there are gaps in the orthodox Sex Theory, and that current sonogram imaging is unreliable. Moreover ATT does not specify that babies are necessarily brought by storks but by "large birds unspecified" (although many individual ATT theorists PRIVATELY believe it is a stork).
I wasn't sure whether to make a new thread for this post, so I guess I'll post it here.
I went to see the movie recently, and I can say it's a bunch of self-contradictory nonsense. Ignoring the blatant factual errors, the malquote from Darwin, there were several major instances of doublethink which were significant to the movie's message. I was thinking over the movie and produced this list of doublethink in the movie:
ID IS/NOT RELIGIOUS:
• Intelligent design is not a religious belief.
• Now check out all our statements about how the seperation of science from religion is wrong, and blame evolution for atheism.
ID IS/NOT BASED ON GOD OF THE GAPS:
• It’s a mischaracterization of intelligent design to say it is based on the God of the Gaps argument.
• Now check out all our mockery of evolutionary theory and modern science for not explaining why the cell exists.
ID DOES/NOT INVOLVE A DEITY:
• The intelligent designer is not necessarily a deity, thus our theory is not religious.
• Now check out us making fun of anyone who proposes life coming from aliens. Dawkins brings up a theoretical ID as having to do with aliens, so we make fun of him. We also make fun of the theory of panspermia for being based on aliens.
(MICRO)EVOLUTION IS/NOT EVIL:
• Eugenics is based upon darwinian theories and evil. Eugenics is based upon the idea of subtle alterations to a population’s character over time based upon the environment while not making the species into a new species.
• Microevolution is true, all IDers agree on that. Microevolution (as defined by IDers) is the idea of subtle alterations to a population’s character over time based upon the environment while not making the species into a new species.
FA Xerrik wrote:I thought you just bought baby kits at Sears? What's all this about a giant avian?
Well, the shipments arrive via giant avians.
Seriously, what's this bullshit about sex making babies? I mean, how the fuck is a baby going to shoot out of a guys penis and into the womb? The whole theory is flawed.
Zablorg wrote:Seriously, what's this bullshit about sex making babies? I mean, how the fuck is a baby going to shoot out of a guys penis and into the womb? The whole theory is flawed.
According to Sexualists, the man shoots a tiny, tiny person called a homunculus into the woman where it bakes in some kind of internal oven!
Darth Raptor wrote:According to Sexualists, the man shoots a tiny, tiny person called a homunculus into the woman
Hehe, it's funny because that's actually what people used to believe.
I can't wait for 100 years time when we can look back on these ID/creationism supporters and laugh our arses off... from the comfort of our virtual reality life support systems...
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Droning funnyman Ben Stein monkeys around with evolution with the new documentary, "Expelled; No Intelligence Allowed," a cynical attempt to sucker Christian conservatives into thinking they're losing the "intelligent design" debate because of academic "prejudice." "Expelled" is a full on, amply budgeted Michael Moore style mockery of evolution, a film that dresses creationist crackpottery in an "intelligent design" leisure suit and tries to make the fact that it's not given credence in schools a matter of "academic freedom."
The film suggests, for example, that Dr. Sternberg lost his job at the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History because of intellectual discrimination but neglects to inform us that he was actually not an employee but rather an unpaid research associate who had completed his three-year term.
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Darth Raptor wrote:According to Sexualists, the man shoots a tiny, tiny person called a homunculus into the woman
Hehe, it's funny because that's actually what people used to believe.
I can't wait for 100 years time when we can look back on these ID/creationism supporters and laugh our arses off... from the comfort of our virtual reality life support systems...
Unless the brain drain continues and by then we'll all be huddling together in huts fearing the wrath of the almighty sky lord.
BTW, did you notice how biased this movie itself is? The ATT supporters make no mention of the Vegatogenology, or even the Mercantogenologists, two groups with a comparable number of supporters.
And they dare complain after that?!
Q: How are children made in the TNG era Federation?
A: With power couplings. To explain, you shut down the power to the lights, and then, in the darkness, you have the usual TOS era coupling.
FA Xerrik wrote:I thought you just bought baby kits at Sears? What's all this about a giant avian?
Actually, these people were blue light specials at Kmart. Almost as good, and a lot cheaper.
I would also like to protest, as what I was told in preschool and elementary school was that my classmates came from cabbage patches. The Evil Pod People Theory demands equal time with Stork Theory!
(Note: I'm not entirely joking. When kids asked where babies came from, that was the explanation they got. Nothing honest like what I got from my parents. Scared me into thinking the other kids were evil vegetable people trying to take the Earth from properly uterus-grown humans. Georgia sucks.)
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Omeganian wrote:And they dare complain after that?!
They dare complain after anything that doesn't go their way. Fundies really have gotten the "become as little children" teaching all mixed up, just like everything else.
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I recently went to see this movie. I was disappointed because it was boring.
I was waiting to hear the tired old arguments that ID proponents throw out, and getting a good laugh out of it. I thought Ben Stein was going to produce those arguments like they're something new.
Instead, there were vague statements that conclude evolution is wrong.
Claims that people were fired for mentioning ID, but those were so vague anyone with half a brain was able to see that only one side of the story was being told.
Then Stein twisting Dawkins answer of what would be an example of intelligent design into an admission of belief. Pathetic.
Nothing of substance at all throughout the entire movie.
It was a waste of money, but the sad thing is there are probably people that watched it who walked away thinking "Stein has a point"
Mayabird wrote:
I would also like to protest, as what I was told in preschool and elementary school was that my classmates came from cabbage patches. The Evil Pod People Theory demands equal time with Stork Theory!
(Note: I'm not entirely joking. When kids asked where babies came from, that was the explanation they got. Nothing honest like what I got from my parents. Scared me into thinking the other kids were evil vegetable people trying to take the Earth from properly uterus-grown humans. Georgia sucks.)
The more you talk about your childhood, the more I'm convinced of two things:
1) You would have been great person to go to school with
2) Georgia sucks
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FA Xerrik wrote:I thought you just bought baby kits at Sears? What's all this about a giant avian?
Actually, these people were blue light specials at Kmart. Almost as good, and a lot cheaper.
I would also like to protest, as what I was told in preschool and elementary school was that my classmates came from cabbage patches. The Evil Pod People Theory demands equal time with Stork Theory!
(Note: I'm not entirely joking. When kids asked where babies came from, that was the explanation they got. Nothing honest like what I got from my parents. Scared me into thinking the other kids were evil vegetable people trying to take the Earth from properly uterus-grown humans. Georgia sucks.)
I believe in some areas, the Shop Bought Babies theory is much more popular. In Russia, according to statistics, it's twice as popular (parents answer with: shop: 40%, stork: 20% cabbage: 17%, birth: 6%).
Q: How are children made in the TNG era Federation?
A: With power couplings. To explain, you shut down the power to the lights, and then, in the darkness, you have the usual TOS era coupling.
Mayabird wrote:(Note: I'm not entirely joking. When kids asked where babies came from, that was the explanation they got. Nothing honest like what I got from my parents. Scared me into thinking the other kids were evil vegetable people trying to take the Earth from properly uterus-grown humans. Georgia sucks.)
I am appalled by your vegephobia.
Cabbage humans are people too! Except for that toy line in the 80s. That *was* the spawn of Satan.
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"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
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