Pennsylvania Primary Thread

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2008-04-22 06:06pm

So, its after 6 there, when do polls close? Anybody on the board vote and survey the mob scene which was ensuing?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2008-04-22 06:24pm

Polls close at 8 PM Eastern.

Kodiak · Post by **Kodiak** » 2008-04-22 06:53pm

CNN has live coverage of the results starting at 7pm Eastern time, in 8 minutes.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2008-04-22 06:58pm

Kodiak wrote:CNN has live coverage of the results starting at 7pm Eastern time, in 8 minutes.

Piff CNN, MSNBC has the Wacko and Keith Olbermann.

Err I mean Chris Matthews & Keith Olbermann. Plus they have Maddow and Buchanan on the panel which is another set of fun. The only way their team could be better is if Colbert was on the panel as well.

Speaking of which their coverage is already starting using the traditional Hillary supporter than Obama supporter routine and Chris has already got his pre-show tingles for Obama.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2008-04-22 07:21pm

OAN thread sticked for the night
The defining thing at the moment is the 8% win, if Hillary wins by more than 8% it counts if not, then she won but not by enough to break the lead Obama has in the popular vote.

Another note I find it sad that the Democratic party is estatic that there's a 55% expected turn-out in the state, 55%! Why? Because 2004 it was only 26%

Qwerty 42 · Post by **Qwerty 42** » 2008-04-22 07:49pm

I haven't seen a constructive exit poll number, but CNN indicates Clinton is winning.

Qwerty 42 · Post by **Qwerty 42** » 2008-04-22 07:59pm

That's interesting: CNN is also saying that delegates are awarded depending on strength of Democratic base. Philadelphia, the heart of Obama country, is one of the strongest Democratic cities in the country. That gives him an easier path to a disproportionate number of delegates.

Qwerty 42 · Post by **Qwerty 42** » 2008-04-22 08:00pm

Polls have closed.

Qwerty 42 · Post by **Qwerty 42** » 2008-04-22 08:50pm

60-40 favoring Clinton with 1% reporting.

Qwerty 42 · Post by **Qwerty 42** » 2008-04-22 08:57pm

Fox has called it for Clinton.

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2008-04-22 09:01pm

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primar ... /state/#PA

Kanastrous · Post by **Kanastrous** » 2008-04-22 09:02pm

With 5% counted, they're projecting Clinton to win.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2008-04-22 09:05pm

CNN shows 52-48 at 6% count. That is very unimpressive given what the poll numbers were.

Qwerty 42 · Post by **Qwerty 42** » 2008-04-22 09:05pm

It's getting increasingly hard to make that case though, since her numbers are now down to 4% lead.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2008-04-22 09:25pm

with 15% of precincts reporting, it is at 53% to 47%, Clinton lead. Though I dont know how they can can be intellectually honest and call it for clinton this early...

Natorgator · Post by **Natorgator** » 2008-04-22 09:26pm

CNN has a 53-47 lead right now. Obama could make a pretty powerful case for her dropping out if these results stick.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2008-04-22 09:31pm

with 15% of precincts reporting, it is at 53% to 47%, Clinton lead. Though I dont know how they can can be intellectually honest and call it for clinton this early...

Don't they base it on a combination of exit polling and poll data? I don't recall any instances so far this season where they've called it for a candidate and then had to backtrack.

Natorgator · Post by **Natorgator** » 2008-04-22 09:34pm

HemlockGrey wrote:
with 15% of precincts reporting, it is at 53% to 47%, Clinton lead. Though I dont know how they can can be intellectually honest and call it for clinton this early...
Don't they base it on a combination of exit polling and poll data? I don't recall any instances so far this season where they've called it for a candidate and then had to backtrack.

I think they mistakenly called it for Clinton back in Missouri.

A lot of the southern counties haven't been recorded yet; those are probably going to go for Obama so hopefully it will be close.

pucky18 · Post by **pucky18** » 2008-04-22 09:35pm

Anyone know what Union County is doing out in the middle of the state, voting for Obama? Are their demographics any different, or are there other factors influencing them?

Qwerty 42 · Post by **Qwerty 42** » 2008-04-22 09:50pm

41% reporting, Clinton leads by 10%

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2008-04-22 09:52pm

pucky18 wrote:Anyone know what Union County is doing out in the middle of the state, voting for Obama? Are their demographics any different, or are there other factors influencing them?

He made a personal stop there from what I remember and drew in the entire County. One thing I think Obama under-estimates is exactly how powerful those in person visits of his are. If he had spent the past four weeks simply driving town to town he might have won this state by ten votes instead of just barley/wining/losing.

Oni Koneko Damien · Post by **Oni Koneko Damien** » 2008-04-22 09:53pm

God I fucking hate the media:

"Clinton grabs crucial win over Obama", Yahoo's words, not mine.

...and they ran this report with only 35% reporting in, 54 to 46.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2008-04-22 10:03pm

Mmm--hmmm, that's the media for you.

Invictus ChiKen · Post by **Invictus ChiKen** » 2008-04-22 10:13pm

Oni Koneko Damien wrote:God I fucking hate the media:

"Clinton grabs crucial win over Obama", Yahoo's words, not mine.

...and they ran this report with only 35% reporting in, 54 to 46.

I am so gonna laugh if it turns to Obama or ends up with a small margin of 1 or 2%

Qwerty 42 · Post by **Qwerty 42** » 2008-04-22 10:15pm

Clinton just crossed the 100,000 vote lead threshold, I think it's done.