Galactica RAR in modern Earth
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Galactica RAR in modern Earth
Okay, since the 1978 show never really reached Earth -- "Galactica 1980" largely dismissed by all as non-canonical-- and we have not yet reached Earth in neoBSG, I'm going to float this:
Modern technology in deep-sea research has, in the last few years, opened up a whole new world previously unknown to us. Remote submersibles have introduced us to deep-sea vents, giant squid, bizarre life forms living at crushing depth in total darkness, and so on.
As we begin more intense surveys of the ocean floor, and see more, new things for the first time, an astonishing discovery is made.
An astonishingly large chunk of ferrous metal is homed in on, and as robo-subs work on it, it becomes evident that what lies on the deep-ocean floor is none other than the Battlestar Galactica. It takes awhile to figure it out, of course, but eventually through sonar pings, x-rays, and so on a composit picture is put together of the general shape and size and it can be nothing else but the ruined Battlestar.
Eventually it is discovered that the ship de-orbited, losing chunks in the atmosphere, thousands of years ago, and that the impact was uncontrolled. The vessel is thoroughly corroded, no fancy tech can be salvaged. Once people know what to look for, other debris can be found-- the rotted hulls of old Vipers, Raptors, other ships... again, fascinating finds but after thousands of years on the sea floor they are little more than corroded scrap.
Once people start going over ancient books and legends, it becomes apparant that many Galactica and Fleet personnel did, in fact, survive to reach Earth. Looking over old tales with new perspective, influences can be seen in ancient cultures (not the least of which the almost word-for-word translations of ancient Greek gods), not just from ancient Greece but Etruscans, Egyptians and so on-- small groups of Galactica Fleet survivors interpersed through ancient Earth civilizations.
Rumors of these discoveries run rampant, and the governments of the world finally begin to accept what can hardly be believed. As soon as this bizarre discovery is finally accepted, Glen A. Larson and Ronald Moore go missing. The conspiracy theorists, especially UFO cultists and others in the blogosphere; rumors (which turn out to be false) abound that Moore was seen being interrogated at Guantanamo. It comes out that Glen Larsen was told the story idea by an acquaintance, back in the late 1960's, and he spun it into the fanciful and light-hearted action-adventure tale it became on TV in 1978. Moore, on the other hand, dug up more information and did more research, coming to his re-imagined version which apparantly was a more accurate retelling of the ancient legend.
Both men, however, were certain that the whole thing was, indeed, just a tale and a clever collection of old myths mixed together and shaken-- neither had any idea that their mysterious "contacts" that gave them the ideas and information in the first place were actually passing on a real story.
So--
What happens here on Earth, modern day, spring of 2008, as it slowly dawns on us that the whole "Lords of Kobol" and "Galactica Exodus" stories are in fact true?
We would know that somewhere out there a race of Cylons are running about, they seem alternately bent on our destruction or intent on preserving humanity for unknown purposes-- and they can mimic human life and even interbreed with us, although they seem particularly susceptible to encephalitis.
We know that FTL is not only possible, but we used to use FTL ships as a regular part of our daily lives. There were colonies, Kobol, a runty planet that supports human life called "New Caprica" which may have another colony of humans on it ("We left a lot of people behind..."), and so on.
Speculate!
Modern technology in deep-sea research has, in the last few years, opened up a whole new world previously unknown to us. Remote submersibles have introduced us to deep-sea vents, giant squid, bizarre life forms living at crushing depth in total darkness, and so on.
As we begin more intense surveys of the ocean floor, and see more, new things for the first time, an astonishing discovery is made.
An astonishingly large chunk of ferrous metal is homed in on, and as robo-subs work on it, it becomes evident that what lies on the deep-ocean floor is none other than the Battlestar Galactica. It takes awhile to figure it out, of course, but eventually through sonar pings, x-rays, and so on a composit picture is put together of the general shape and size and it can be nothing else but the ruined Battlestar.
Eventually it is discovered that the ship de-orbited, losing chunks in the atmosphere, thousands of years ago, and that the impact was uncontrolled. The vessel is thoroughly corroded, no fancy tech can be salvaged. Once people know what to look for, other debris can be found-- the rotted hulls of old Vipers, Raptors, other ships... again, fascinating finds but after thousands of years on the sea floor they are little more than corroded scrap.
Once people start going over ancient books and legends, it becomes apparant that many Galactica and Fleet personnel did, in fact, survive to reach Earth. Looking over old tales with new perspective, influences can be seen in ancient cultures (not the least of which the almost word-for-word translations of ancient Greek gods), not just from ancient Greece but Etruscans, Egyptians and so on-- small groups of Galactica Fleet survivors interpersed through ancient Earth civilizations.
Rumors of these discoveries run rampant, and the governments of the world finally begin to accept what can hardly be believed. As soon as this bizarre discovery is finally accepted, Glen A. Larson and Ronald Moore go missing. The conspiracy theorists, especially UFO cultists and others in the blogosphere; rumors (which turn out to be false) abound that Moore was seen being interrogated at Guantanamo. It comes out that Glen Larsen was told the story idea by an acquaintance, back in the late 1960's, and he spun it into the fanciful and light-hearted action-adventure tale it became on TV in 1978. Moore, on the other hand, dug up more information and did more research, coming to his re-imagined version which apparantly was a more accurate retelling of the ancient legend.
Both men, however, were certain that the whole thing was, indeed, just a tale and a clever collection of old myths mixed together and shaken-- neither had any idea that their mysterious "contacts" that gave them the ideas and information in the first place were actually passing on a real story.
So--
What happens here on Earth, modern day, spring of 2008, as it slowly dawns on us that the whole "Lords of Kobol" and "Galactica Exodus" stories are in fact true?
We would know that somewhere out there a race of Cylons are running about, they seem alternately bent on our destruction or intent on preserving humanity for unknown purposes-- and they can mimic human life and even interbreed with us, although they seem particularly susceptible to encephalitis.
We know that FTL is not only possible, but we used to use FTL ships as a regular part of our daily lives. There were colonies, Kobol, a runty planet that supports human life called "New Caprica" which may have another colony of humans on it ("We left a lot of people behind..."), and so on.
Speculate!
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
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Scientists try to examine the remains and gain useful knowledge from them. Assuming it is the U.S. that claims the wrecks, other countries either call it a hoax or become convinced America is hoarding super advanced tech.
The general public believe it's all a publicity stunt on Moore's part, fundie idiots call the wreck a hoax and an affront to God. Other fundie idiots call it Noah's Ark and start a new religion around it.
Finally Graham Hancock publishes "Vindication: Why I was right all along, fuckers!"
The general public believe it's all a publicity stunt on Moore's part, fundie idiots call the wreck a hoax and an affront to God. Other fundie idiots call it Noah's Ark and start a new religion around it.
Finally Graham Hancock publishes "Vindication: Why I was right all along, fuckers!"
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Oh, as for the Cylons, conspiracy nuts will have a field day. Everybody of any importance will be a suspected Cylon; Bill Gates is a Cylon, Dubya Bush is a Cylon, Elvis was a Cylon, JFK was a Cylon about to blow the whistle and that's why he was killed..
Also, the Knight Rider car would be hunted down and destroyed.
Oh, as for the Cylons, conspiracy nuts will have a field day. Everybody of any importance will be a suspected Cylon; Bill Gates is a Cylon, Dubya Bush is a Cylon, Elvis was a Cylon, JFK was a Cylon about to blow the whistle and that's why he was killed..
Also, the Knight Rider car would be hunted down and destroyed.
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GOLD!Darth Onasi wrote:Also, the Knight Rider car would be hunted down and destroyed.
Hillary tries to out Obama as a cylon, but winds up in a federal prison after failing the turing test. McCain wins in a landslide with promises of military buildup to 'meet the robot menace'. Letterman does hilarious Top Ten 'You know your neighbour's a cylon when' list.
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Even without working models to deconstruct (although some rough, vagui deas might be gleaned from the wreckage, no matter how corroded), science goes berserk. FTL is possible, artificial gravity is possible, and both were done with relatively primitive tech-bases otherwise, which would suggest that they're within reach of modern science.
Greece is turned upside-down, on the assumption that the strong correlations of local mythos to Kobolian religion might mean some items of Colonial tech are still available thereabouts.
Greece is turned upside-down, on the assumption that the strong correlations of local mythos to Kobolian religion might mean some items of Colonial tech are still available thereabouts.
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There will be some pretty interesting cults starting up, ranging from the joking by fanboys/girls to quite a few serious nutters who used to be scattered among various ancient astronaut/UFO groups.
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What makes you say that?White Haven wrote:FTL is possible, artificial gravity is possible, and both were done with relatively primitive tech-bases otherwise, which would suggest that they're within reach of modern science.
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Just because their guns don't shoot little bolts of yellow light doesn't mean they don't have an advanced tech-base. Both of those technologies imply a tech base that's clear out in Clarke-tech territory. For that matter, some of the stunts they pulled imply materials science far in advance of our own. The fact that Cylons, starting with an identical tech base to the Colonials, could go from sapient AIs in robotic shells to producing cyborgs and androids virtually indistinguishable from biological humans, also implies an extremely sophisticated tech-base.White Haven wrote:Even without working models to deconstruct (although some rough, vagui deas might be gleaned from the wreckage, no matter how corroded), science goes berserk. FTL is possible, artificial gravity is possible, and both were done with relatively primitive tech-bases otherwise, which would suggest that they're within reach of modern science.
Not to mention Moore, in this scenario, may have taken what he dug up in his own research and presented a dumbed-down version of events. Either to make it more palatable to general audiences or to get actors like Olmos on board, who swore he'd walk if they invoked space-aliens.
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From context, I'd say nBSG. What with nBSG being a more researched retelling of the legend.
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There'll probably be a lot of classified talks behind closed doors about that last possibility. After all, they were human and could breed with Earth humans, which implies that somehow, humans from Earth got off-world somehow and ended up on this planet Kobol. We don't have any signs of super-ancient high tech civilizations here, so someone may have picked up humans and shipped them elsewhere. So not only do we possibly have Cylons to worry about, we also have this totally unknown quantity out in the depths of space.GrandMasterTerwynn wrote: Not to mention Moore, in this scenario, may have taken what he dug up in his own research and presented a dumbed-down version of events. Either to make it more palatable to general audiences or to get actors like Olmos on board, who swore he'd walk if they invoked space-aliens.
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Galactica is found
-Moore is "invited" to speak to Homeland Security.
-Bush scares the crap out of everyone by rewriting civil liberties so that we can prepare for the Cylon threat. We know HES not smart enough tto realize what he's done but we hope the next guy isn't either.
-Republicans ride high on the wave of paranoia and McCain becomes president (Hey he's got war experience, besides at some point somebody probably revealed that Obamas confirmation name was Baltar)
-Americans are still bent over the table with regards to gas prices
-haliburton board of execs collectively retire with the purchasing power to buy most of south america in ccash.
-The US adn China join forces combine forces to collectively build a single shitty battlestar taht won't go anywhere because the russian built engine wasn't done on time
-Global warming destroys the earth because we put off doing anything for too long
-Cylons sit back and laugh
Waaaaay after the fact Kevin Costner pees into some aparatus and drinks it as he sails into the sunset.
-Moore is "invited" to speak to Homeland Security.
-Bush scares the crap out of everyone by rewriting civil liberties so that we can prepare for the Cylon threat. We know HES not smart enough tto realize what he's done but we hope the next guy isn't either.
-Republicans ride high on the wave of paranoia and McCain becomes president (Hey he's got war experience, besides at some point somebody probably revealed that Obamas confirmation name was Baltar)
-Americans are still bent over the table with regards to gas prices
-haliburton board of execs collectively retire with the purchasing power to buy most of south america in ccash.
-The US adn China join forces combine forces to collectively build a single shitty battlestar taht won't go anywhere because the russian built engine wasn't done on time
-Global warming destroys the earth because we put off doing anything for too long
-Cylons sit back and laugh
Waaaaay after the fact Kevin Costner pees into some aparatus and drinks it as he sails into the sunset.
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