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Lets Play Six Degrees of Barack Obama!

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Cenk Uygur wrote: Posted April 29, 2008 | 03:11 AM (EST)

The latest right-wing game is to pin controversial figures, who might have said or done anything objectionable at any point in their lifetimes, to Barack Obama. Then make him apologize for them. Then make him denounce and reject them. And then say he hasn't done enough to "distance" himself from them.

It could be his pastor, it could be his neighbor, it could be someone he served on a board with, it could be someone who donated to him, it could be someone who gave him an unsolicited endorsement (Louis Farrakhan) or it can just simply be someone who is black (Harry Belafonte).

So, let's play the six degrees of Barack Obama game and see who else he should denounce and reject. I'll start off the festivities. I'm an easy one. I connect to him in only two degrees. I know Josh Orton, who worked on the online side of his campaign for some time. Bingo. Obama now owns everything I have ever said.

He's not going to like what he finds. Although I am perfectly reasonable in politics (though given to fits of vitriol), I am a fervent agnostic. I have argued vehemently against religion. Quotes of mine in this field could be devastating to Obama. I'll provide no links here; it wouldn't be fun if I did the media's job for them. Have fun, it's a treasure hunt.


Worse yet, I was born Muslim. I went to school in Turkey until I was eight (that will be translated as "attended a madrasa" by Fox "News" Channel). His connection to a known Muslim and atheist (come on, who is going to bother with the distinction between agnostic and atheist in the sound bite world) could be devastating. Is America ready for non-flag wearing, Muslim, atheist two heart beats away from the president?

If you think it's damaging that I am only two people removed from Obama, it gets worse. I often speak favorably of Obama on our show and among the remaining candidates he is clearly my favorite! Aha, that's the equivalent of an endorsement. He might not have asked for it, but just by the virtue of me issuing it, he's stuck with it.

I hope he at least does me the solid of denouncing my words and not my entire existence. It's gotta sting to have your whole being denounced and rejected.

I invite all of you to play along. See how many degrees it takes you to get to Obama and how enthusiastically and vociferously he has to denounce you.

Now, unfortunately, there is one man who is not allowed to play -- John McCain. Because the media has decided that while it is eminently fair to attach any person Obama has ever met (or in some cases not even met) to him, you can never look into anyone that John McCain has ever been associated with. He is a maverick, moderate, war-hero, straight-talker. So, obviously he doesn't need to answer for anyone in his past or undergo any of the Obama treatment. Sorry, John. This is one fun game you'll have to sit out.

Though there will be this awkward moment when people realize Barack Obama knows John McCain. And he is therefore is responsible for everything McCain says -- even though he is running against him. Wrap your mind around that one.

I do have some concerns about this though. I wonder if this game will distract from the real issues. I wonder if people will see through it as an obvious attempt to smear Obama by association. I wonder if people will realize it has absolutely nothing to do with how Obama would govern if he were elected. I wonder if people will wonder why it's only done to one candidate and not the others.

Nah, probably not. Don't want to ruin the fun, let's just keep mindlessly playing it until November and see what happens.
Emphasis mine, I love this game, as you can clearly see, Barrack Obama has to denouce and reject everyone he's ever met. It's amazing all the terrible things that a friend of a friend of a cousin's neighbor of Obama have done.

On the plus side he's a fourty six purple hearted, ten medal of honoring winning war-hero slash business tycoon and holds Doctrate's in nineteen fields.

Wait.. I'm being told it only applys to bad things, good things do no transfer, and that's a shame, because I thought he was a shoe in for the nomination when I learned Obama is not himself, but some freakish mutant combination of anyone he's ever know or talked to.

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This is gold.
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This is the guy they want to use to win over "young people?" Are they completely daft? I'd rather vote for a pile of shit than a Jesus freak social regressive.
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All the terrible things I've done. One guy I know who goes to UC Lab knows Obama, and has babysat his kids.
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Scottish Ninja wrote:All the terrible things I've done. One guy I know who goes to UC Lab knows Obama, and has babysat his kids.
I stand ready for the inevitable denouncement and rejection from Obama, may Xenu have mercy on you.

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Why does he assume that agnostic and atheist are distinctly different? They aren't, agnostic just describes what kind of atheist you are.
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General Schatten wrote:Why does he assume that agnostic and atheist are distinctly different? They aren't, agnostic just describes what kind of atheist you are.
Short Hand, Agnostic:professing no belief in any supernatural deity or force. Agnosticism is a neutral state, having no religion is Agnosticism.

Atheist:Professing a negative belief, going one farther than agnostiscim to say not only do you not believe, but there's nothing to believe in.

It's a small distinction and the point that the media always fails to make.

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Mr Bean wrote:
General Schatten wrote:Why does he assume that agnostic and atheist are distinctly different? They aren't, agnostic just describes what kind of atheist you are.
Short Hand, Agnostic:professing no belief in any supernatural deity or force. Agnosticism is a neutral state, having no religion is Agnosticism.

Atheist:Professing a negative belief, going one farther than agnostiscim to say not only do you not believe, but there's nothing to believe in.

It's a small distinction and the point that the media always fails to make.
That's not really accurate. Agnosticism is being indecisive and straddling the fence on whether or not you want to accept a deity as being real because you can't make up your mind for whatever reason. Atheism is the lack of belief in deities due to either ignorance or coming to the conclusion that there is no evidence for them to exist.
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Doesn't someone on this board work on the Obama campaign, and thus must have associated with someone who directly worked with Obama? Doesn't that mean that every single one of us is, at most, three degrees away from Obama?

I guess that mean's that Obama is officially responsible for *everything* said on this board.

...he's screwed.
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General Zod wrote:
Mr Bean wrote:
General Schatten wrote:Why does he assume that agnostic and atheist are distinctly different? They aren't, agnostic just describes what kind of atheist you are.
Short Hand, Agnostic:professing no belief in any supernatural deity or force. Agnosticism is a neutral state, having no religion is Agnosticism.

Atheist:Professing a negative belief, going one farther than agnostiscim to say not only do you not believe, but there's nothing to believe in.

It's a small distinction and the point that the media always fails to make.
That's not really accurate. Agnosticism is being indecisive and straddling the fence on whether or not you want to accept a deity as being real because you can't make up your mind for whatever reason. Atheism is the lack of belief in deities due to either ignorance or coming to the conclusion that there is no evidence for them to exist.
Actually, agnositicism is the belief that it is impossible to know for sure whether or not deities exist, while atheism is a simple lack of belief. Thus one can be an agnostic atheist (I think it's impossible to know for sure, but I don't believe in any gods) or an agnostic theist (There's no way to prove it, but I still believe in such-and-such a god).
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Oni Koneko Damien wrote:
Actually, agnositicism is the belief that it is impossible to know for sure whether or not deities exist, while atheism is a simple lack of belief. Thus one can be an agnostic atheist (I think it's impossible to know for sure, but I don't believe in any gods) or an agnostic theist (There's no way to prove it, but I still believe in such-and-such a god).
I'm not really sure how that contradicts the example I gave. Agnostics effectively take a 'safe' middle of the road approach. Stating "something is impossible to know, thus "maybe"" is for all intents and purposes fence straddling.
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General Zod wrote:I'm not really sure how that contradicts the example I gave. Agnostics effectively take a 'safe' middle of the road approach. Stating "something is impossible to know, thus "maybe"" is for all intents and purposes fence straddling.
Because agnosticism doesn't actually address whether someone believes in a deity or not. It only addresses whether that person thinks it's possible to prove the existence of a deity or not.

...when used correctly, that is. Colloquially, yeah, it's for the fence-sitters.
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Lemme see I do not know him and I don't think I know anyone that knows him...

But I've constantly supported his campaign and even donated to it.

Now let's see.

I've been associated in my life time with Satanism (via friends), witchcraft, Islam (via friends), I have gone to so called terrorist websites just to read the crazy shit they write on there especially after hearing it referenced on the news.

I'm an ex-communist, I've read books about and researched fascism. Some how or another I even ended up on the board of an American Fascist organization as the head of the Propaganda Department. (to this day I do not know how that happened).

Being raised around white supremacist I was one myself for a time and almost joined the KKK and had friends in the Neo-Nazi movement (I got better starting around 6th grade and got progressively better the older I got and the more exposure to none whites I got finally totally going away around my Sophomore year of high school. An btw I was never open and public with this at High School so no one new not that it matters at a rural high school where the n-word is still used against black teachers white students hated).

Then there was the fact that after abandoning all this racist and religious BS the Rich WASPy students start framing Columbine on me saying I had a hit list and killing off my social life for good in high school. (Also my Sophomore year of HS)

Not to mention an ex hacking one of my web journals to have child porn on it.

Fox News would have a field day with me.

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Damn my only chances of going into politics will be as a Republican...
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Damn my only chances of going into politics will be as a Republican...
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It's funny because it's true. The only thing on there they might reject you for is the Communist bit. :P
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This is the guy they want to use to win over "young people?" Are they completely daft? I'd rather vote for a pile of shit than a Jesus freak social regressive.
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I am connected to Obama by my friend Meg who met him when she was in high school and gave him a tour of the campus.

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Everyone on this board is two degrees from Obama, because I am only one degree from Obama.

I bumped into him once in the Chicago Loop (well, not literally) back before he was a presidential candidate but a local politician of some notability. Yes, he's tall, thin, good-looking, in person he has enormous personal charisma (not surprising in a politician) and, while it would be wonderful to say we had am actual discussion what really happened was that I asked if he was really Mr. Obama or just a look-alike, we both said a polite greeting and shook hands. He inquired if I had voted for him and I said no, I was an Indiana resident. He expressed some surprise that a Hoosier would know about him, but I pointed out that NW Indiana had extensive ties to the Chicago area, and the Chicago news had mentioned him of late. Indeed, he was at that particular spot because he was about to be interviewed on FOX news, which had its studios nearby After that we said goodbye and went on our respective ways.

I doubt very much he remembers the encounter, but the fact remains he did shake the hand of an Evil Pagan who hangs out on foeign message boards run by atheists. Scandalous, I tell you!
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Mr Bean wrote:
General Schatten wrote:Why does he assume that agnostic and atheist are distinctly different? They aren't, agnostic just describes what kind of atheist you are.
Short Hand, Agnostic:professing no belief in any supernatural deity or force. Agnosticism is a neutral state, having no religion is Agnosticism.

Atheist:Professing a negative belief, going one farther than agnostiscim to say not only do you not believe, but there's nothing to believe in.

It's a small distinction and the point that the media always fails to make.
That's how idiot agnostics define themselves, yes. They're wrong, though. Huxley didn't define agnosticism in such a way, and even when defined in such a way, it also lies about the definition of atheism. How many gods do these self-defined agnostics believe in? None. They're godless since they accept no gods. People do not have 0.5 gods in their mental inventories.
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