Rightous Fist Of Heaven wrote:So there's somethign special about the star. an unknown exotic energy that no other star emits. HAng on... I've already disproven that unscientific bullshit.
How exactly have you disproved it?
I've disproven the unscientific "unknown exotic energy that no other star emits" by demonstrating we can have the same effects from stars that are just stars.
Allso does hyperspace exist?
Red herring. Hyperspace is not being discussed here
Allso are you seriously trying to claim that man knowns the exact specifications of every single star in the sky? Talk about unscientific bullshit.
We have a very good understanding of stars and the radiation they emit. I've demonstrated there is no need for Athega to put out different, more exotic forms of energy to other stars
No Thrawn specifically said that the Judicator could easilly take direct sunlight from Athega to its hull for several minutes, he said nothing like barely or just about.
Yet the ship was taking damage and had to be repaired afterwards, did it not? Hardly indicative of something that's shrugging off the energy without problem. And, is this the energy thehull is absorbing because the shields are not up, or the energy the hull is absorbing because it is bleeding through the shields? Either is very possible. One has us asking why the shields weren't up. the other doesn't have that problem.
And yes shields are much more resilient which is the problem in this case.
It is a problem for you. I've already explained it. The energy from Athega is mildly above the threshold of the shields, so that the excess is bleeding through and damaging the hull. This explains why Thrawn says the hull can take it, without including the problems of why the supreme stratageist was too stupid to think of raising shields.
The most likely reason why the shields were not up and why there is no
mention of them anywhere is simple, they cannot stop the radiation from Athega for some reason.
You have two choices - they don't stop the radiation because it's too high for them. This is basically what I've said, though I say the shields are up, and it is simply the excess over their threshold that damages the hull. OR, alternatively, you can assume Athega has some strange, exotic radiation unlike any other star, which is unscientific and adding unknowns when they are not needed.
the problem with your bleedthrough theory is that bleedthrough can occur when the shield has taken very high amounts of energy to very small areas, in this case the radiation would be evenly dispersed all over the shield of the ISD.
Bleed through can occur when shields are overwhelmed. In most cases, this is concentrated fire to small areas. In some cases, though, if the energy is spread over the entire shield area and is greater than the shields can handle you'll probably get a similar effect over the entire shields.
Oh please, if the quote directly says "...intense enough to melt any shielding" what kind of fucking moron would use the word melt when talking about overwhelming energy shielding? C'moon how the hell can you melt a barrier of energy? Technical meaning of the word? Well the only meaning for word melt is heating until turning from solid to liquid.
"sugar melts in water"
"the crowd melted away after the rally"
"sea melted into sky along the horizon"
"our hearts melted at the child's tears"
"The tide melted our sand castle away"
“Here individuals of all races are melted into a new race of men”
courtesy of
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=melt
I supplied numbers that were far higher than you told me I should use for blue supergiants, and still it turned out in my favour.
How exactly, Rigel which is a normal Blue Supergiant had luminosity of 50 000 sol which is more than the stars you gave.
Don't lie. It's on the very same page as the post you just quoted.
"Assume: blue supergiants are 300,000 sol luminosity each.
Assume: Athega is 100 Sol (various official sources describe it as superhot, highly luminous, extremely energetic etc, so a higher luminosity than average isn't a bad assumption) "
FYI, 300,000 is greater than 50,000. Six times greater, infact.
How the hell can 2000 Sol be far more luminous than the average of 20 000 sol?
How the hell can 300,000 sol be mis-read of 2000 sol? Oh, that's right. You are talking about the posts I made back before it was shown the blue supergiants were supergiants rather than the giants you kept calling them.
And since you have shown no calculations whatsoever and still speak of numbers, perhaps you should clear your head of any crack you are smoking.
Points to earlier posts.
OK, I didn't show actual calcs, I showed the numbers I started off with and the numbers I ended up with and assumed you could work it out yourself. Obviously I was wrong, since you seem to believe 300,000 is less than 50,000. Ho hum. If you're that much of an idiot you probably wouldn't udnerstand the calcs even if I posted them.
Or, as I showed, a ship 1AU from seven stars 6x brighter than your average for blue stars gets less energy than a ship 1 million km from a moderately bright yellow star
Correct, but what is the problem here?
I don't know. You keep insisting I haven't proven this, so maybe you should tell me what the problem is.
We know that Daalas ISDs most likely were in the middle of the 7 Blue Supergiants, but the ships going to Nkllon were for the sake of argument some of 1 million km away from Athega. Now since there is not a single Yellow star in existence that would put out more energy than 7 average Blue Supergiants, you see what is the problem.
You are a fucking idiot. I've shown you how a yellow star over 1000 times less luminous than seven blue giants can cause more damage to an ISD. It all lies on the distance of the ISD from the stars, as I have stated in every post, as you have ignored in every post.
I'm sure you'll ignore it here, as well, in favour of your continuing delusions.