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Post by **Mr Bean** » 2008-05-05 04:07pm

RogueIce wrote: EDIT: Oh and Stas, since you sent your Spetsnaz to Atlantis during the International Conference, there is a possibility someone noticed some mysterious activity around the airport by Red Technocracy military aircraft. Or if the UKB attempted to close it off, it would be equally alarming since such a thing should not be happening on Atlantis, least of all during a gathering of world leaders.

The world leaders gathering ended a "12 days" ago. Lord Ramsley has himself come to Atlantis before during the Megafauna crises and sent representatives to the meeting, since he's attempting to claim the land as his own and act as "official" as possible

The General's visit was semi-secret, his representatives came to, the fact the plane that flew to the island to take them back had him onboard.

As of yet no one knows anything on the international stage, no one has people on the ground in Terra Libertia except the BBC(Who are currently working out of Lord Ramsley's land, again I stress he's trying to out image the other two as a the "real" leader of the country)

So as of yet, we've just kicked this plot-line off, a secure conference between OMSK nations is the only possible thing that could be know as of yet is that there's been a call for a conference, and even that is speculative.

Post by **Coyote** » 2008-05-05 04:10pm

Excellent. Thank you, m'sieu Bean.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2008-05-05 04:15pm

Mr Bean wrote:The world leaders gathering ended a "12 days" ago. Lord Ramsley has himself come to Atlantis before during the Megafauna crises and sent representatives to the meeting, since he's attempting to claim the land as his own and act as "official" as possible

The General's visit was semi-secret, his representatives came to, the fact the plane that flew to the island to take them back had him onboard.

As of yet no one knows anything on the international stage, no one has people on the ground in Terra Libertia except the BBC(Who are currently working out of Lord Ramsley's land, again I stress he's trying to out image the other two as a the "real" leader of the country)

So as of yet, we've just kicked this plot-line off, a secure conference between OMSK nations is the only possible thing that could be know as of yet is that there's been a call for a conference, and even that is speculative.

Gah, stupid timeline. Very well, you carried it off in secret. Although if it ever gets out how it went down, people will be wary of such secret meetings like this at Atlantis. But we'll see how it goes.

I'm assuming then that the various positions being handed out are just delayed reporting? Because otherwise not much got accomplished at that Conference.

And the position of the MESS still stands for if you decide to support the Warlord and if it goes public. Which it'll have to. No way you could hide something like that, especially not the military support.

Fingolfin_Noldor · Post by **Fingolfin_Noldor** » 2008-05-05 04:17pm

Can we have it Nova Terra instead of New Terra? They are both exactly the same, but Nova Terra sounds smoother since both words are Latin instead of one English and one Latin.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2008-05-05 04:22pm

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Can we have it Nova Terra instead of New Terra? They are both exactly the same, but Nova Terra sounds smoother since both words are Latin instead of one English and one Latin.

The Shinra Republic supports this measure.

Also, I updated the MESS in the Alliances thread. You can see our logo and stuff there. Link

Post by **Coyote** » 2008-05-05 04:27pm

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Can we have it Nova Terra instead of New Terra? They are both exactly the same, but Nova Terra sounds smoother since both words are Latin instead of one English and one Latin.

Fine by me.

Post by **Coyote** » 2008-05-05 04:31pm

RogueIce wrote:
Mr Bean wrote:The world leaders gathering ended a "12 days" ago. Lord Ramsley has himself come to Atlantis before during the Megafauna crises and sent representatives to the meeting, since he's attempting to claim the land as his own and act as "official" as possible

The General's visit was semi-secret, his representatives came to, the fact the plane that flew to the island to take them back had him onboard.

As of yet no one knows anything on the international stage, no one has people on the ground in Terra Libertia except the BBC(Who are currently working out of Lord Ramsley's land, again I stress he's trying to out image the other two as a the "real" leader of the country)

So as of yet, we've just kicked this plot-line off, a secure conference between OMSK nations is the only possible thing that could be know as of yet is that there's been a call for a conference, and even that is speculative.
Gah, stupid timeline. Very well, you carried it off in secret. Although if it ever gets out how it went down, people will be wary of such secret meetings like this at Atlantis. But we'll see how it goes.

I'm assuming then that the various positions being handed out are just delayed reporting? Because otherwise not much got accomplished at that Conference.

And the position of the MESS still stands for if you decide to support the Warlord and if it goes public. Which it'll have to. No way you could hide something like that, especially not the military support.

I've already started a counter-plot to stir things!

Regardless of when our intel agencies know about it, th eother warlords will certainly see something developing and get jealous, and play the same card.

So now Sultan Ibrahim is in the balance... if any independents out there want to make a play. Once he sees (or perceives) his rivals gaining powerful patrons, he'll be desperately seeking support as well.

Or... he may try to play them off against each other...

Fingolfin_Noldor · Post by **Fingolfin_Noldor** » 2008-05-05 04:32pm

It jolly well not turn Nuclear. Anyone caught supplying any Uranium/Plutonium/Thorium to any of the 3 sides should be treated the same way anyone is caught with bioweapons.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2008-05-05 04:39pm

Coyote... umm Alexander does not have access to almost any coastline, he holds the interior of the island, Ramsley has access to most of the coastline, and the Sultan has the top third.

Picture to help as I imagined the break-down

Red=Ibrahim
Blue=Ramsley
Yellow=Alexander

Alexander holds the mountainous interior of the island, the Sultan holds the northern flatlands and the lowlands. And Ramsley holds damn near all the coast.

And off I go, back in four hours.

Post by **Coyote** » 2008-05-05 04:46pm

This is politics, not "truth"!

[EDIT]-- I was, in fact, going to have the pirate frigate be a Sultan Ibrahim privateer, and Lord Ramsley is just trying to BS his way into Canissia's good graces. This drags the Sultan in, albeit unwittingly.

Let the games begin!

Post by **Coyote** » 2008-05-05 05:21pm

The propaganda leaflet is not from the MESS; it is from a shadowy pro-Ramsley group trying to stir support/smear Alexander. We don't know much about the people behind the leaflet, it could --for all we know-- be staged. Or it could, indeed, be real... or it could have nothing to do with Alexander and may be the Sultan's people, and Alexander is getting the blame...

Redleader34 · Post by **Redleader34** » 2008-05-05 05:27pm

I want my ship orders from the ISCPA, I need my freighters completed for 2011. Also, One question, could one send helicopters via these FCS, by any chance?

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2008-05-05 05:29pm

Redleader34 wrote:I want my ship orders from the ISCPA, I need my freighters completed for 2011. Also, One question, could one send helicopters via these FCS, by any chance?

Could you drop me a PM with your order? This way I won't miss it when I go over the budget one last time.

A standad FCS has no flight deck, but we DO offer helicopter tenders capable of operating two birds. Unless you meant sending helicopters disassembled

Post by **RogueIce** » 2008-05-05 05:51pm

ISCA: I'll approve the budget.

Raj Ahten · Post by **Raj Ahten** » 2008-05-05 06:10pm

Ah, just when ProTec gets started with its bigger and better operations in Libertopia, the warlods go and make themselves a juicy opurtunity for a proxy war. I'll have to reconsider my plans if Alexander gets himself a real national patron. Of corse ProTec is availible for the Great Powers needs, as long as you don't have them attack another great power's forces

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Post by **Mr Bean** » 2008-05-05 07:52pm

Some people have forgotten that Lord Ramsley ask for and received aid from the UKB during the Mega fauna attacks on the island. I threw that in a few days ago to see if anyone would help the poor Libertialtopia's but no one did.

Except, one person of course

Post by **Coyote** » 2008-05-05 08:47pm

Mr Bean wrote:Some people have forgotten that Lord Ramsley ask for and received aid from the UKB during the Mega fauna attacks on the island. I threw that in a few days ago to see if anyone would help the poor Libertialtopia's but no one did.

Except, one person of course

True, which will lead him to believe that he is "the UKB's man" and see the sudden courting of Alexander as a stab in the back.

If warlords were rational, they'd be governments.

[EDIT]-- I know, as a player, that Alexander is grabbing at air. But as a character, a warlord of a half-state can be an easily bruised, fragile ego, so I'm trying to see how he might perceive this and have him react accordingly.

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2008-05-05 08:49pm

Smash and grab is complete. Note: This was a rescue of MESS Nationals from wwwaaayyyyy back when, and not in support of, or against, any specific Libertopian Warlord.

Post by **Coyote** » 2008-05-05 08:51pm

How can it be "complete" without someone running the Mogadishu Mile?

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2008-05-05 08:54pm

Coyote wrote:How can it be "complete" without someone running the Mogadishu Mile?

Much of the problems the "real" BlackHawk Down guys(none of the copters went down in this scenario) had have been mitigated, thanks to widespread naval gunfire support, armored vehicles used from the start(except for Holmes in the Humvee), indiscriminate bombing from the Naval air arm....

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2008-05-05 09:53pm

Coyote wrote:

[EDIT]-- I know, as a player, that Alexander is grabbing at air. But as a character, a warlord of a half-state can be an easily bruised, fragile ego, so I'm trying to see how he might perceive this and have him react accordingly.

Were it not for you Coyote I'd have it locked up, the Mess is loaded down with Republics and Parliamentary Democracy's while OMSK has a three Royalty based country's. He's and up-star claiming Royal blood which everyone knows is bullshit.

However the UKB and the BBC have always been careful to acknowledge the "Lord" while the Lonestar and co refer to him as "Mister Ramsley" and that would bruise his ego make no mistake.

Your the only flaw in that as you are a King, however that is balanced by you know, the whole Hedonism thing, and it's not going to go well with a Religious Fundamentalist Orthodoxy group.

Or, taking calls from the choclate bath tub might fly with the other Mess memebers, but might be a slight issue with him.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2008-05-05 10:47pm

I think I just had a conversation on existentialism, and we didn't even bring up Sartre, or Camus, or Dostoysky

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2008-05-05 10:57pm

I'm thinking about starting a cult of "God of the Machine" that soon the God will come and speak from the Machine, All life on Nova Terra, and your memories are lies implanted by the trickster. What do you think, can we include Big-O as scripture, and have Queen & Led Zepplin as part of our offical Gospel.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2008-05-05 11:23pm

OOOMSK!!! We have to decide what to do. If we take Alexander's proposal at face value, we will have a huge commitment ahead.

Also, Alexander by now must be in Omsk, Red Tecnocracy, and guarded by the Spetznaz at all times (so that no one either openly, or through RPing other libertian warlords, attempts to kill him). He secretly arrived yesterday and is waiting for the OMSK Summit.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2008-05-05 11:26pm

Mr Bean wrote:Were it not for you Coyote I'd have it locked up, the Mess is loaded down with Republics and Parliamentary Democracy's while OMSK has a three Royalty based country's. He's and up-star claiming Royal blood which everyone knows is bullshit.

...

Your the only flaw in that as you are a King, however that is balanced by you know, the whole Hedonism thing, and it's not going to go well with a Religious Fundamentalist Orthodoxy group.

Or, taking calls from the choclate bath tub might fly with the other Mess memebers, but might be a slight issue with him.

That's a strange assertion to make. I count 6 MESS nations which are in some shape or form (presumed) monarchies. The only one I'm not certain about is Enderistan (largely because he hasn't posted anything yet).

Wilkonia: King
Canissa: King
Tian Xia: Emperor (rough translation)
Grand Duchy of Baal: Duke
Principality of Tongdjiwana: Prince (assumedly)

Even if you just count the active members, that's still 3 large countries that make no bones about being monarchies.