nBSG Episode 405: "The Road Less Traveled"
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Well, then bail out now. I don't understand why some of you are still watching if you don't like the way things are going. I gave up on Enterprise and Voyager before it when I didn't like what I was seeing.weemadando wrote:And the above shows exactly why I can't wait for this abortion of a show to end now.
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Their plans were all over the fucking shop even before that!Gaidin wrote:weemadando: Wait you're surprised that their plan went to shit the minute Caprica-Six and Boomer brought politics worth the name into the Cylon discussions?
One minute they're trying to kill all humans, then they're trying to create hybrids on the nuked homeworlds? Having their "sleeper agents" developing some morality is one thing, but given the fact that EVERY SINGLE TIME we've seen the skin-jobs meeting they just seem to be having vague theological discussions or arguments over minutiae makes me believe that there has never been a fucking plan.
Here's a thought - it would have been a lot easier to have skin-jobs fucking around in pre-attack society to create hybrids.
The "they have a plan" thing appears to have been BS since the start. I was hoping that there'd be some coherency too it, but it appears to just be that Cylon's want to be the "doms" in a fucked up sexual relationship with humans. Sure. Whatever.
Oh, and I'll keep watching because there isn't that long left and there remains about a 5% chance that they'll pull it out of their arse and manage to bring it all home in a great fashion.
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Re: the Cylon Plan - when I think about it, it really doesn't frustrate me as to the thought that the "they have a plan" is bullshit.
At the end of the miniseries, they resolved to hunt down the Fleet on the basis that if they didn't they'd return one day to take revenge. That's not mutually exclusive with their moving into the Twelve Colonies, fixing shit up, and living as humans amongst the graveyard of humanity, or their weird breeding program with all those captive human women.
Remember, Sharon/Athena and Helo was part of that plan to create a hybrid child - a Plan A/ Plan B, if you will.
Once Sharon/Athena and Helo successfully escaped back to the fleet, obviously the Cylon had to take that into account, and couldn't afford to annihilate the fleet anymore.
At the same time, you've got two Cylon war "heroes", Sharon/Boomer and Caprica-Six, changing Cylon "politics" at this stage to an agenda of peace.
They tried that. They also got Hera out of it by the end of that disaster.
It was at this stage that the plan really went out the window, and the Cylons decided, hey, we're going to Earth too. After all, they had the child. Then they lost it.
And that's pretty much where we are. Taking into account that Cylon society is not static- disagreements began tearing them apart all thew way from Season 2.
The only thing that's bothering me about Season 4 is, as I said, that the last few episodes have been boring. Hopefully that will change.
At the end of the miniseries, they resolved to hunt down the Fleet on the basis that if they didn't they'd return one day to take revenge. That's not mutually exclusive with their moving into the Twelve Colonies, fixing shit up, and living as humans amongst the graveyard of humanity, or their weird breeding program with all those captive human women.
Remember, Sharon/Athena and Helo was part of that plan to create a hybrid child - a Plan A/ Plan B, if you will.
Once Sharon/Athena and Helo successfully escaped back to the fleet, obviously the Cylon had to take that into account, and couldn't afford to annihilate the fleet anymore.
At the same time, you've got two Cylon war "heroes", Sharon/Boomer and Caprica-Six, changing Cylon "politics" at this stage to an agenda of peace.
They tried that. They also got Hera out of it by the end of that disaster.
It was at this stage that the plan really went out the window, and the Cylons decided, hey, we're going to Earth too. After all, they had the child. Then they lost it.
And that's pretty much where we are. Taking into account that Cylon society is not static- disagreements began tearing them apart all thew way from Season 2.
The only thing that's bothering me about Season 4 is, as I said, that the last few episodes have been boring. Hopefully that will change.
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Their biggest problem isn't even the fact that they now have to deal with inner politics. They handled that reasonably well I thought up until the latter half of season 3. Their big advantage was in their quasi-democratic process that they managed to make themselves stick to. That was foreshadowed(looking back) to go to hell the minute they boxed the entire line of 3s. They no longer had an odd number of models to guarantee a swing vote in some way. This plays through in the civil war now, with the fact that half the lines can't agree with the other half and they're blowing each other to hell over it.Vympel wrote:*snip cylon recap*
Quoted for fucking truth.Vympel wrote:The only thing that's bothering me about Season 4 is, as I said, that the last few episodes have been boring. Hopefully that will change.
This show, always had the failures that we have covered in this episode, but at the end of the day it was fucking entertaining to watch despite them. This episode (which is really a symptom of the rut that has developed at the start of this season) was, just, fucking, boring.
I don't understand why anyone would rate it above a 3 (and that is stretching it). What was good about it? I can't see it to be honest.
Meh.
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