CmdrWilkens wrote:
I'm curious how you got SSBNs or SSBKs since the OP did not allow a DDBN/K substitution which means you would have had to declare them as being under construction...
So basicly I'm wondering if you are declaring you've got a dozen or so SSN/Ks with cruise missiles that are nuke tipped or do you have one or two of a preiviously undeclared SSBN/K? Moreover if you have an SSBN then how the heck did you manage to get an operational SLB without any of us (who are certainly watching closely) noticing?
My submarines are all SSNs and mostly various types of diesel boat. This includes numerous very small coastal and midget submarines, Saddamistan does not have any secrete mammoth submarines unfortunately. It does have several India class diesel rescue submarines, necessary in theory owing to frequent disasters among the diesel fleet. Current naval nuclear arsenal is torpedoes, mines, the RPK-2 Viyuga (SS-N-15) ASW missile with a nuclear depth charge air burst capability, and on select ships also the larger caliber RPK-7 Vorobei (SS-N-16). Anyway I’ll prepare a detailed naval order of battle. In term so dedicated land attack ballistic missiles submarines Saddamistan has several different SSB designs with short to medium range missiles, almost all of them armed with biological cluster bomblet warheads.
The various sub launched long range missiles have undergone only a limited test program, fired within Saddamistan controlled territory. I also have sub launched anti ship missiles which work fine. You’d all have limited intelligence on the more exotic weapons all this, without satellite over flights or being able to get a sub real close to the launch area you can’t learn all that much. You know I have a lot of small submarines and coastal defense units and watercraft, but you don’t have accurate counts for example. You can learn some by radar mapping the coast, but Saddamistan has made radar reflectors mandatory on all buildings and moving civilian vehicles to confuse enemy sensors. It also employs high power barrage jamming any time it detects attempts at radar mapping, with limited success.
Saddamistan is a closed country outside of a few major cities, foreign workers are imported at times, but kept strictly segregated from other personal at all times by Saddamistans massive internal security apparatus.
I'm not saying it can't be done but I am saying that if it can be done either we should have had some tinkle of warning (in the form of rocket or ship tests)or its being done by jury-rigged conventional forces that we should be able to stop almost at will given everyone's heightened state of alert.
One of the reasons I chose New Guanine for topography was it has fairly big bodies of very well enclosed sea area in the far west, this was used for secret tests of integrating the existing SS-N-15 and SS-N-16 into Saddamistan submarines, which are a mix of America, Soviet, German, Swedish and North Korean Types, mostly small types which have been in production on an assembly line basis. Some have been fitted with compact auxiliary nuclear reactors of very low power, creep speed and auxiliaries only. They’ve got modern torpedoes and Saddamistan will be happy to trade them one for one for even relatively modest enemy warships. In the highly restricted waters so many of your warships are operating in, waterways less then 100 miles wide in many cases, it would be pretty damn hard to evade diesel subs as you could hope to do in the open ocean. In confined water the SS (a great many of my boats don’t even rate the K for hunter killer owing to limited sensors) can adapt its deadly ‘act like a dead rock in the water silent’ tactic.
"This cult of special forces is as sensible as to form a Royal Corps of Tree Climbers and say that no soldier who does not wear its green hat with a bunch of oak leaves stuck in it should be expected to climb a tree"
— Field Marshal William Slim 1956
I was under the obligations of the Security Council, but you?
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