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Obama gains Sen. Byrd's endorsement.

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Sen. Robert C. Byrd, D-W.Va., endorsed Barack Obama for president shortly after noon today, focusing on his hope to end the Iraq War.

"As people all across this great nation know, I have been one of the most outspoken opponents of the Bush administration's misguided war in Iraq and its saber rattling around the globe," Byrd said.

He said he had "no intention of involving myself in the Democratic campaign for President in the midst of West Virginia's primary election. But the stakes this November could not be higher."

Byrd praised both Obama and Hillary Clinton, saying their "integrity, honor, love for this country and strong belief in our Constitution I deeply respect...

"Barack Obama is a noble-hearted patriot and humble Christian, and he has my full faith and support," Byrd concluded.

I can hear it now from the really deranged Clinton supporters; 'See? Obama's so racist he's been endorsed by a Klansman!' :P

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Even my father who is an open racist is pro-Obama. I think that it fairly amazing. I don't know how racist some of these people got to be to refuse to vote for a black president when a man like my father is willing to let it slide. Of course if he was a Jew I don't think my father would vote for him but I could be wrong.
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Glocksman wrote:I can hear it now from the really deranged Clinton supporters; 'See? Obama's so racist he's been endorsed by a Klansman!' :P
Too late. :D
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One of my uncles, and old school blue collar southerner in every way imaginable, was more than happy to vote for the black Democratic candidate for governor over the white Republican several years back. Never underestimate the power of the union vote.
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Oh please, do you honestly think I don't realize the Onion runs the Daily Squib? :lol:
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ArmorPierce wrote:Even my father who is an open racist is pro-Obama. I think that it fairly amazing. I don't know how racist some of these people got to be to refuse to vote for a black president when a man like my father is willing to let it slide. Of course if he was a Jew I don't think my father would vote for him but I could be wrong.
Yeah, I have this weird kind of disconnect happening in my family too. It's with my grandfather, a true southern Alabamian. The openly "they should stay in their place and stay the hell away from our church" man is not only a life-long democrat, but voted for Obama and will do so again.

It makes my head spin.
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ArmorPierce wrote:Even my father who is an open racist is pro-Obama. I think that it fairly amazing. I don't know how racist some of these people got to be to refuse to vote for a black president when a man like my father is willing to let it slide. Of course if he was a Jew I don't think my father would vote for him but I could be wrong.
Yeah, I have this weird kind of disconnect happening in my family too. It's with my grandfather, a true southern Alabamian. The openly "they should stay in their place and stay the hell away from our church" man is not only a life-long democrat, but voted for Obama and will do so again.

It makes my head spin.
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Glocksman, if you're going to post it, get Sen. Byrd's full speech right! Here's the full statement issued by the Senator's office.
Sen. Robert C Byrd wrote:As people all across this great nation know, I have been one of the most outspoken opponents of the Bush Administration's misguided war in Iraq and its saber rattling around the globe.

"With the Bush Administration's latest request to fund this on-going war in Iraq without any attempt to start bringing our troops home, the issue of the upcoming presidential contest has been weighing heavily on my heart. The loss of life continues and the sons and daughters of tens of thousands of American families remain in harm's way every day.

"This Democratic primary campaign has been tough and competitive. I had no intention of involving myself in the Democratic campaign for President in the midst of West Virginia's primary election. But the stakes this November could not be higher.

"After a great deal of thought, consideration and prayer over the situation in Iraq, I have decided that, as a superdelegate to the Democratic National Convention, I will cast my vote for Senator Barack Obama for president. Both Senators Clinton and Obama are extraordinary individuals, whose integrity, honor, love for this country and strong belief in our Constitution I deeply respect.

"I believe that Barack Obama is a shining young statesman, who possesses the personal temperament and courage necessary to extricate our country from this costly misadventure in Iraq, and to lead our nation at this challenging time in history. Barack Obama is a noble-hearted patriot and humble Christian, and he has my full faith and support."
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The sheet-wearing Dixiecrat is voting for the negro...?!

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Broomstick wrote:The sheet-wearing Dixiecrat is voting for the negro...?!
I'm pretty sure he only joined the Clan to make political connections. The guy is the king of porkbarreling, but aside from that he's a pretty decent fellow.
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There are a lot of "decent people" who have been Klan members, and they were decent as long as you weren't one of the undesirables stepping out of line. I hear a lot of Nazis were kind to puppies and children, too. Being a "decent person" does not make it OK to be a member of a hate group.

Senator Byrd may or may not have regrets about those days, but the mere fact he was associated with such people means that many other people will always regard him with deep suspicion.
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Broomstick wrote:There are a lot of "decent people" who have been Klan members, and they were decent as long as you weren't one of the undesirables stepping out of line. I hear a lot of Nazis were kind to puppies and children, too. Being a "decent person" does not make it OK to be a member of a hate group.

Senator Byrd may or may not have regrets about those days, but the mere fact he was associated with such people means that many other people will always regard him with deep suspicion.
Even if he is still a racist, he's a US Senator. He didn't get there by not being able to read the political landscape. He can see that Obama is going to be the nominee and probably the next president. "Inferior race" or not, Byrd's going to have to work with Obama, and there's no harm in getting on the future president's good side early, as long as taking an opportunity to put a dent in his racist history.
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There's one more reason for Byrd to do so.

When you're reaching the end of your life, you start thinking hard about death (and the afterlife if you're a pious Christian). Some start thinking about all the things they feel they did wrong, and try to correct them if they can. Some get more hidebound and intolerant, clinging to the ideals of their youth, unwilling to admit their flaws.

Byrd's regrets about his more racist days have been getting stronger over the last decade, with many public apologies. I believe he's honest in his attempts to show he's changing, because he's facing the End of Days and feels he's going to have to answer for his sins.
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Broomstick wrote:There are a lot of "decent people" who have been Klan members, and they were decent as long as you weren't one of the undesirables stepping out of line. I hear a lot of Nazis were kind to puppies and children, too. Being a "decent person" does not make it OK to be a member of a hate group.

Senator Byrd may or may not have regrets about those days, but the mere fact he was associated with such people means that many other people will always regard him with deep suspicion.
The 2nd Klan didn't do that much terrorizing, the 1st one had been effective enough. In the 20th century the KKK was, more than anything, a social club for insecure lower-class white men (and a gigantic money grubbing scheme for the guys on top). Of course, Klan members did terrorize minorities, and the organization was explicitly dedicated to bigotry against racial and religious minorities, with misogynist undertones to boot. So certainly Klan membership is a stain on anyone's record (except Stetson Kennedy and others like him).

Anyway, I think it's the reason why the Senator joined is important to consider. As a young man a Klan member stroked his ego in the right way, praising him as just the sort of man who should lead the country. After a couple of years there, he lost interest and left. This points to someone who was racist (which he definitely was) as a by-the-way thing, not as a central or important component of his person. It looks like he joined-up because he was promised good things, and left after determining that it was road to nowhere.

In the decades since it seems that his attitudes have shifted, that he has learned better. It is difficult to cast off one's upbringing, many people don't do it, and Byrd seems to have not only honestly tried, but also succeeded to an extent. I'm sure the old coot isn't perfect, I wouldn't put him in a pedestal, even as one who has overcome the bigoted views he was taught, but at this time I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

So back to what I was originally getting at, I am not surprised that he has endorsed Obama.
Byrd's regrets about his more racist days have been getting stronger over the last decade, with many public apologies. I believe he's honest in his attempts to show he's changing, because he's facing the End of Days and feels he's going to have to answer for his sins.
Regardless of how one feels about Christian beliefs regarding redemption and the afterlife, I think it is definitely to his credit that he recognizes his previous words and actions as sins.
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