Foreskin or Cut?

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2003-01-24 09:05pm

verilon wrote:
The Dark wrote:
verilon wrote: My fault. However, most Catholics, it seems, go with circumcision.
np. I didn't realize Catholics went for circumcision...interesting.
Of course, I might be wrong there, too.

Very wrong. I was Catholic and nobody touched my dick with a blade.

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2003-01-24 09:07pm

ArmorPierce wrote:I think that differing views between the US and Europe on circumcision actually has little to do with a religion divide and more with a divide of pot smoking hippies and conservatives .

http://www.circinfo.com/questions/ypq.html link for reasons to get circumcised just cause other people are doing it

Pierce, that side is wildly biased. And this bit right here

Like the appendix, the foreskin is a remnant from our evolutionary past and now serves no essential purpose.

Is just incorrect.

What Are the Foreskin's Functions?

The foreskin has numerous protective, sensory, and sexual functions.

* Protection: Just as the eyelids protect the eyes, the foreskin protects the glans and keeps its surface soft, moist, and sensitive. It also maintains optimal warmth, pH balance, and cleanliness. The glans itself contains no sebaceous glands-glands that produce the sebum, or oil, that moisturizes our skin. The foreskin produces the sebum that maintains proper health of the surface of the glans.

* Immunological Defense: The mucous membranes that line all body orifices are the body's first line of immunological defense. Glands in the foreskin produce antibacterial and antiviral proteins such as lysozyme. Lysozyme is also found in tears and mother's milk. Specialized epithelial Langerhans cells, an immune system component, abound in the foreskin's outer surface. Plasma cells in the foreskin's mucosal lining secrete immunoglobulins, antibodies that defend against infection.

* Erogenous Sensitivity: The foreskin is as sensitive as the fingertips or the lips of the mouth. It contains a richer variety and greater concentration of specialized nerve receptors than any other part of the penis. These specialized nerve endings can discern motion, subtle changes in temperature, and fine gradations of texture.

* Coverage During Erection: As it becomes erect, the penile shaft becomes thicker and longer. The double-layered foreskin provides the skin necessary to accommodate the expanded organ and to allow the penile skin to glide freely, smoothly, and pleasurably over the shaft and glans.

* Self-Stimulating Sexual Functions: The foreskin's double-layered sheath enables the penile shaft skin to glide back and forth over the penile shaft. The foreskin can normally be slipped all the way, or almost all the way, back to the base of the penis, and also slipped forward beyond the glans. This wide range of motion is the mechanism by which the penis and the orgasmic triggers in the foreskin, frenulum, and glans are stimulated.

* Sexual Functions in Intercourse: One of the foreskin's functions is to facilitate smooth, gentle movement between the mucosal surfaces of the two partners during intercourse. The foreskin enables the penis to slip in and out of the vagina nonabrasively inside its own slick sheath of self-lubricating, movable skin. The female is thus stimulated by moving pressure rather than by friction only, as when the male's foreskin is missing.

And Spanky, why shouldn't this be debated?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-24 09:11pm

Because it's just a bomb waiting to go off.

It's one of the Forbiddon Internet Topics.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-01-24 09:14pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Because it's just a bomb waiting to go off.

It's one of the Forbiddon Internet Topics.

Does that mean we just pulled a Carlin? Seven forbidden words and such, y'know?

I didn't realize the foreskin actually had function.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-01-24 09:19pm

The Dark wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Because it's just a bomb waiting to go off.

It's one of the Forbiddon Internet Topics.
Does that mean we just pulled a Carlin? Seven forbidden words and such, y'know?

I didn't realize the foreskin actually had function.

Suprisingly enough there arent really any good reasons for cutting bits of healthy people off.....

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-24 09:20pm

Well, it's mostly a personal preference on appearence these days...

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-01-24 09:26pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Well, it's mostly a personal preference on appearence these days...

Of course, when the deed is performed on defenseless babies it's hardly a matter of personal choice.. At least, the baptism leaves no marks.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-01-24 09:27pm

Colonel Olrik wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Well, it's mostly a personal preference on appearence these days...
Of course, when the deed is performed on defenseless babies it's hardly a matter of personal choice.. At least, the baptism leaves no marks.

Its just religious education that leaves the marks

Though you are very right....the children dont exactly get a vote in it....

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-24 09:28pm

Colonel Olrik wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Well, it's mostly a personal preference on appearence these days...
Of course, when the deed is performed on defenseless babies it's hardly a matter of personal choice.. At least, the baptism leaves no marks.

It's not like the damn kid remembers anything... Nor does it have any damage.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-01-24 09:31pm

Keevan_Colton wrote:
Colonel Olrik wrote:At least, the baptism leaves no marks.
Its just religious education that leaves the marks

Too true. Most of my neuroses come from my year at a Lutheran school. Least kind people I've ever met. Callous, obnoxious, and half of them were expelled from public school for drinking or drugs.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-01-24 09:34pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Colonel Olrik wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Well, it's mostly a personal preference on appearence these days...
Of course, when the deed is performed on defenseless babies it's hardly a matter of personal choice.. At least, the baptism leaves no marks.
It's not like the damn kid remembers anything...

I dont know...there's likely to be a pretty clear indicator every time you go to the toilet....

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-01-24 09:35pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote: It's not like the damn kid remembers anything... Nor does it have any damage.

See Mike's post. Basically, it's a redundant operation, which doesn't bring any advantages. It's a tradition (in North America), and that's the sole reason why it keeps being performed. Personally, I think it's a waste of good skin, but I won't debate it further.

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2003-01-24 09:35pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Colonel Olrik wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Well, it's mostly a personal preference on appearence these days...
Of course, when the deed is performed on defenseless babies it's hardly a matter of personal choice.. At least, the baptism leaves no marks.
It's not like the damn kid remembers anything... Nor does it have any damage.

Nuh-uh, it hurts him like hell. Badly enough that people think it contravenes article 5 of the Declaration of Human Rights.

The Exact Circumcision Procedure

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-24 09:37pm

Don't use Advocate sites.

I'm not debating any further, either.

Snip or not if you want.

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2003-01-24 09:39pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Don't use Advocate sites.

I'm not debating any further, either.

Snip or not if you want.

Okay

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2003-01-24 10:16pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote: It's not like the damn kid remembers anything... Nor does it have any damage.

I suppose it's alright then to torture someone as long as you also perform some procedure to make him forget?

I'm uncut, and glad. Performing circumcisions on infants is barbaric. I would fully support a ban on it with a mandatory sentence of not less than ten years in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison for those who perform them.

^^ · Post by ^^ » 2003-01-24 10:18pm

spanky has never experienced the pain of the snipping, so ignorance is the driving force in this here example

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2003-01-24 10:24pm

I suppose it's alright then to torture someone as long as you also perform some procedure to make him forget?

No, but a newborn baby doesn't even have the mental capability to have memories anyways. They have no life expierience, they have nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to lose. Well accept there life but circumsition doesn't threaten that.

I'm uncut, and glad. Performing circumcisions on infants is barbaric. I would fully support a ban on it with a mandatory sentence of not less than ten years in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison for those who perform them

Thats all that deserves for a reply.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-24 10:25pm

^^ wrote:spanky has never experienced the pain of the snipping, so ignorance is the driving force in this here example

Tell me, are you begging to be banned, you STUPID FUCKING LITTLE SHIT!!??

^^ · Post by ^^ » 2003-01-24 10:26pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
^^ wrote:spanky has never experienced the pain of the snipping, so ignorance is the driving force in this here example
Tell me, are you begging to be banned, you STUPID FUCKING LITTLE SHIT!!??

It's not like the damn kid remembers anything... Nor does it have any damage.

i rest my case

btw, how about we cirumsize you

see how that feels

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2003-01-24 10:27pm

spanky has never experienced the pain of the snipping, so ignorance is the driving force in this here example

i rest my case

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-24 10:27pm

Icehawk wrote:
I suppose it's alright then to torture someone as long as you also perform some procedure to make him forget?
No, but a newborn baby doesn't even have the mental capability to have memories anyways. They have no life expierience, they have nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to lose. Well accept there life but circumsition doesn't threaten that.

And an infant circumcision isn't something major. IIRC, they do use local anethesia often these days, and I doubt that it harms them that much.

^^ · Post by ^^ » 2003-01-24 10:28pm

Icehawk wrote:
spanky has never experienced the pain of the snipping, so ignorance is the driving force in this here example

i rest my case

and stand aside

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-24 10:29pm

^^ wrote:i rest my case

btw, how about we cirumsize you

see how that feels

I AM circumcised, you twat... Read the first God damn page.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-01-24 10:31pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Icehawk wrote:
I suppose it's alright then to torture someone as long as you also perform some procedure to make him forget?
No, but a newborn baby doesn't even have the mental capability to have memories anyways. They have no life expierience, they have nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to lose. Well accept there life but circumsition doesn't threaten that.
And an infant circumcision isn't something major. IIRC, they do use local anethesia often these days, and I doubt that it harms them that much.

But you are removing a part of them....everyone should have the right to a complete unmutilated body if they want it.....

You said above its a choice matter....where's the choice?

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Foreskin or Cut?

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