Toughest Flame Warriors

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-01-24 08:21pm

Who are the strongest, most powerful flame warriors from across the internet (not just this site)? What do they debate, and which side do they take?

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-01-24 08:23pm

Darkstar

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2003-01-24 08:24pm

I'm not sure what you mean by "toughest", but Jorge from CW.org has the most impervious wall of ignorance I've ever seen. He has managed to twist evidence to make it seem like its disproving evolution, and repeatedly ignores questions even after they're asked directly repeatedly. Then there's his holier-than-thou attitude, and habit of using big words so people get confused what he's saying.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2003-01-24 08:24pm

RedImperator wrote:Darkstar

Pretty strong wall of ignorance there, not sure if it's the strongest though

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-01-24 08:31pm

Forgive me. By "toughest" I meant instead, "strongest" or "most powerful." While DarkStar and Jorge are immensely difficult flame warriors to defeat (and, in fact, do not appear to have been defeated), I consider them to be of extremely limited real power.

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-01-24 09:04pm

Cor123 at RR.

Uses mod powers like they were nothing, has a DS level wall of ignorance, is a creationist, fundamentalist, US-Israeli apologist, and a complete arsehole to boot.

Then again, that goes for most of the people at that travesty of a web board.

Especially the ones who were telling a woman to stay with a husband who was SEVERELY beating her, because obviously the devil was making him do it, so they would pray for him and her to excorcise the demons.

Goddamn fucking wankers.

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2003-01-24 09:10pm

weemadando wrote:Cor123 at RR.

Uses mod powers like they were nothing, has a DS level wall of ignorance, is a creationist, fundamentalist, US-Israeli apologist, and a complete arsehole to boot.

Then again, that goes for most of the people at that travesty of a web board.

Especially the ones who were telling a woman to stay with a husband who was SEVERELY beating her, because obviously the devil was making him do it, so they would pray for him and her to excorcise the demons.

Goddamn fucking wankers.

"BEGONE DEMON, THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELLS YOU!!! THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD, AND I SHALL NOT WANT. <INSERT WEIRD LATIN CHANTING> HOLY WATER! THE DEMON CANNOT BEAR TO STAND THE LORD'S NAME!"

Seggybop · Post by **Seggybop** » 2003-01-24 09:39pm

You people are all listing worthless trash fools, so I'll list someone who's good.
Leuthesius of Infoceptor has indirectly caused multiple large flame wars and destroyed a corrupt admin. It was really cool. No one can defeat him. The enemy tried to ban him around 20 times and he only gained more supporters each time.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-24 09:42pm

"Lord" Mike Wong. So far he's crushed all comers simply by actually considering his positions rationally.

^^ · Post by ^^ » 2003-01-24 09:42pm

blizzard gamers are a fucked up bunch

the bestest flame warrior has to be ALDP from the fagtown forums

8 bit orgy is runner up

http://pub63.ezboard.com/bfattownusa

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2003-01-24 09:57pm

I really liked Neoolong's approach. Simple and direct, crush all opposition. Could curb the aggression a little though, and be a little more tactful.

SWPIGWANG · Post by **SWPIGWANG** » 2003-01-24 10:20pm

Mike just pick stuff he knows, so of course he can't lose.

A true flame warrier can defeat foes even without higher ground.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-01-24 10:26pm

SWPIGWANG wrote:Mike just pick stuff he knows, so of course he can't lose.

A true flame warrier can defeat foes even without higher ground.

No, mike simply starts with the simple approach of examining the evidence to figure out what is right.....thats why he doesnt loose....

Someone that can win without having evidence behind them is either
a) smarter than the person they are talking with and running verbal rings round them
Or
b) Really really well suited to a career in politics.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-01-24 10:29pm

Really, I was just trying to stir the shit by bringup Darkstar. His defensive abilities are peversely admirable, but he's got no offensive power whatsoever at this point.

Mike Wong is probably the best warrior I've seen in action personally. It's easy to be invincible when you're always attacking from stronger position.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2003-01-24 11:32pm

I know he's done a few call outs, but considering, Mike Wong is often the target of sticks and stones from across the street. He is a true flame warrior for the point that he stands his ground on what he's studied and knows. Then he defends it when someone runs it down, and then charges on the cowards that hide from afar.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-01-24 11:43pm

Flame Warriors...I've known some powerful ones in my day.

Mike Wong
Kynes
Wayne Poe
Graeme Dice

And of course...

Cronan Thompson.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2003-01-24 11:47pm

Richard Stallman.
Henry Spencer. He doesn't flame; he's just never, ever, wrong.
George Willam Herbert. He flames and he's very, very rarely wrong.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-01-25 12:06am

Well, I was naively hoping someone would mention my name. But from this board I'd put up the following nominations:

DW/AK: never speaks without knowing first
Durandel: always the defender of logic and reason
Ryoga: his trashing of Dorkstar was pure art

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-01-25 01:25am

Dalton wrote:Flame Warriors...I've known some powerful ones in my day.

Mike Wong
Kynes
Wayne Poe
Graeme Dice

And of course...

Cronan Thompson.

I second Daltons list.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-01-25 01:38am

Enlightenment wrote:Richard Stallman.
Henry Spencer. He doesn't flame; he's just never, ever, wrong.
George Willam Herbert. He flames and he's very, very rarely wrong.

RMS's bitching about GNU/Linux vs Linux is annoying. Also, they are still trying to develop the HURD after 10 years, having a 1 year head start on Linux. Why they continue to try to develop it amazes me. He has contributed a lot though.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-25 03:06am

Nice to see my name on many lists

I would put Patrick Degan on the list, as far as sci-fi goes: he tends to be quite thorough and well-informed in his posts, generally leaving the reader with the impression that he's done his homework and the other guy hasn't.

Of course, we're only thinking in terms of legitimate debate. If the Wall of Ignorance counts as debate, the lists change, but really, a WOI only makes you an annoying flamewarrior, not a good one. It just means you refuse to admit when you're beaten.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-01-25 01:00pm

SWPIGWANG wrote:Mike just pick stuff he knows, so of course he can't lose.

A true flame warrier can defeat foes even without higher ground.

He who knows himself and his enemy will never in a hundred battles be at risk.

You can't fault him for being right so consistently.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-01-25 02:04pm

When it comes to bicycle mechanics, you will not win a debate against me. 10+ years of working on bikes, 5 years doing it for a living and a good mechanical and science background means I know damn near everything about bikes and I can see through all they hype. I've personally ruined 3 bicycle message boards with my cynical view of the shitty design and engineering that's infected bicycle design in the last few years. One board ended up banning me so they could keep their delusional fantasies and wank over their bike of the month.

People that have impressed me, Sharp Phil and Ken Cook on Selfdefenseforums. They're very knowledgeable and both have a way with words, especially Ken. No one has won a debate against them as far as I know. They destroy arguments with facts and logic in some really well written posts. Sharp Phil is also know for his lengthy point by point rebuttals of sophist trolls where he makes them look like the blithering idiots they are.

Tranan · Post by **Tranan** » 2003-01-25 04:30pm

Well I say.

Ratt Killer. But I havent sen him anyware fore a long time. Maby he or it is in the lonybinn.

Faram! He is good. beter than most of the here!

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-01-25 06:53pm

Dalton wrote:Flame Warriors...I've known some powerful ones in my day.

Mike Wong

Obviously...

Kynes

Kynes remains my favorite Wars debator, even over Wong, because he knew when he was right (every time) and had no respect for anyone who failed to realize it.