Armageddon???? - Part Eighty One Up

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2008-05-23 11:34am

FOR MOTHER RUSSIA!!!

Eulogy · Post by **Eulogy** » 2008-05-23 11:34am

From the looks of it, I'd say that Euyale, because Belial is so useful to her, will sabotage the attack on Detroit as much as she can.

And Lak is in for a rude awakening, one that tastes like lead.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2008-05-23 11:48am

Kodiak wrote:Depending on where in Detroit the portal opens, could this attack actually phase the wartime production of the US? I would think there's a lot of vehicle production going on in the Motor City. Did we ever get hard figures about how much of Sheffield was destroyed?

From the descriptions of decrepit buildings and drug addicts, it sounds like they're dropping it in downtown Detroit. Having passed through there many times, I can safely say that almost nothing of value will be destroyed, except for Greektown, the Renaissance Centre area, and a few other local tourist attractions like Tiger Stadium.

The Renaissance Centre sticks out like a sore thumb; a gleaming tower reaching into the sky, looking for all the world like an oasis of civilization in a burned-out ex-urban wasteland.

Pic 1: this is Rebecca standing in front of the Renaissance Centre.
Pic 2. This is another shot of the building.

It's almost impossible to approach Detroit without taking note of it, because it's so prominent. And the location would also jive with the expectations of a Bronze Age person: the Renaissance Centre is right on the river, and in ancient times great cities were often situated on ocean inlets or rivers for many reasons. I find it hard to imagine that our gorgon, once she's in downtown Detroit, would choose to open the portal over any target other than the Renaissance Centre.

The river in question is the St. Clair, which is fast-moving and pretty wide at this point (the Ambassador Bridge is more than 2 km long, although the river itself is not that wide; I believe it is less than 1km wide at that point), so a lot of the lava will flow into it. Evacuation across the river will be a problem though, because the area leading to the Ambassador Bridge is very close to the Renaissance Centre and therefore likely to be hit. So disaster relief forces from Windsor on the Canadian side will be hard-pressed to get there, except for helicopter-borne teams.

BTW, the Windsor Casino is on the other side of the river so that you can walk out the front door of the casino and see the Renaissance Centre on the other side. If that portal opens right over the Renaissance Centre, debris might be flung across the river to strike Windsor as well, possibly taking out the casino and its occupants. Someone is probably going to win a slot-machine jackpot just before being immolated. There's also an underground tunnel between Detroit and Windsor almost right next to the Renaissance Centre, which will fill up with lava quickly.

Shermpotter · Post by **Shermpotter** » 2008-05-23 12:39pm

You hit it right on the head, we've been waiting for this.... I think I need another fix!!

tim31 · Post by **tim31** » 2008-05-23 01:04pm

Mike, don't write the story for him!

Things are definately heating up again(no pun intended, really).

Wyrm · Post by **Wyrm** » 2008-05-23 02:23pm

I hope Belial gets waylaid enough for a kT bomb to get dropped on his little operation.

If there is a second attack, there will not be a third.

Eagerly awaiting the works, "Tartarus is destroyed."

Also, the Amish's impromptu lecture on the Testimony of Integrity and Peace, I could've sworn that came from a Quaker.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2008-05-23 02:35pm

No one said the word 'Amish' in that chapter.

And yes, Detroit needs to be bombed.

tim31 · Post by **tim31** » 2008-05-23 02:39pm

Yes, the Testimony of Integrity seems to be a quaker thing... I didn't think quakers were as introverted as Amish.

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2008-05-23 03:04pm

Awesome!

By the way, what sect or denomination is the volunteer from? The one who referred to CPT Kim as "Friend"?

The Vortex Empire · Post by **The Vortex Empire** » 2008-05-23 03:11pm

I almost feel sorry for the Baldricks. Charging a defensive line like that, with that much Russian Artillery? The baldricks are screwed. The only way they could possibly win this is with their sheer numbers.

Starglider · Post by **Starglider** » 2008-05-23 03:58pm

I confess to some surprise that Stuart edited that scene rather than scrapping it entirely. The version I sent to him was cringe-worthy enough, and even that was my second attempt at writing with a strict 15 rating imposed.

Of course all blame for this must fall on Shroom Man.

Stuart · Post by **Stuart** » 2008-05-23 04:14pm

Starglider wrote:I confess to some surprise that Stuart edited that scene rather than scrapping it entirely. The version I sent to him was cringe-worthy enough, and even that was my second attempt at writing with a strict 15 rating imposed.

Of course all blame for this must fall on Shroom Man.

Well, a little modification here and there and most of the cringes evaporated. Your problem was youw ere trying too hard

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2008-05-23 04:34pm

Euryale-chan and Belial-kun!!! ^__^

Peptuck · Post by **Peptuck** » 2008-05-23 05:17pm

Oh, yes, the next chapter is most definitively going to be having "Scream, Aim, Fire" as the theme music when I read it.

Now I've got the urge to fire up COD2 and replay the Russian missions....

Fyrwulf · Post by **Fyrwulf** » 2008-05-23 05:22pm

Kodiak wrote:Depending on where in Detroit the portal opens, could this attack actually phase the wartime production of the US? I would think there's a lot of vehicle production going on in the Motor City. Did we ever get hard figures about how much of Sheffield was destroyed?

No, the major auto factories are outside Detroit proper. The biggest factory is River Rouge, which is in Dearborn (half hour drive outside metro Detroit.) Incidentally, the demons will have come extremely close to hitting the only remaining Abrams production line (which is in Warren) and they won't ever know it.

The Army is going to be pissed, believe it. They're going to want to bring the Gryphon TELs back and have their way with Tartarus.

bilateralrope · Post by **bilateralrope** » 2008-05-23 05:44pm

Wyrm wrote:Eagerly awaiting the works, "Tartarus is destroyed."

Especially because hell only has two things they still consider viable weapons:
- Tartarus
- The army that is about to be slaughtered on the plains.

With both destroyed, will Satan consider surrender ?

Starglider · Post by **Starglider** » 2008-05-23 05:44pm

Fyrwulf wrote:No, the major auto factories are outside Detroit proper. The biggest factory is River Rouge, which is in Dearborn (half hour drive outside metro Detroit.)

Megaaerah arrived here. Of course at Sheffield the portal itself formed about three miles from where Lakeenah was when the ritual started, though more or less on target and only half a mile or so from the eventual release point.

Burak Gazan · Post by **Burak Gazan** » 2008-05-23 06:00pm

That position looks North of Belle Isle, and upriver from both Windsor Casino and the Ren Centre; roughly 10 km from the Rouge River Entry, and the asssociated industries up there. It would make for rather steamy river pilotage for me, if it does get into the water

Cutting off the amount of shipping that passes through the Detroit/St Clair River system would put a pretty big crimp in things, on both sides of the border.

Waiting for #56 on wireless

** current position, no where near Detroit

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2008-05-23 06:18pm

Clearly, Satan hates Cadillacs.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2008-05-23 06:30pm

About those AGS-17s on the BMP-2s, a couple mounts on the engine deck would be awful hard to operate, but Russia already sells kit to put one in a pod on the side of the turret.
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SiegeTank wrote:Sweet. The plot is moving forward, the Amish didn't just lay down and die, and we've got another piece of epic ass-kickery to look forward to. Great chapter!

For the love of our evil sky god, Amish and Quaker are not the fucking same thing, I have no idea on earth why this is such a common belief. I happen to be Quaker, on paper anyway, and while the Amish Church, distinct from the Amish people, and the Religious Society of Friends have many similarities, they also have some absurdly radical differences, such as the whole Amish rejection of unnecessary technology which has absolutely no Quaker equivalence.

tim31 wrote:Yes, the Testimony of Integrity seems to be a quaker thing... I didn't think quakers were as introverted as Amish.

It is a Quaker thing, but its wording and its meaning are by not means some static block of text to be recited, same with all the other testimonies. In all reality Quaker beliefs are variable and set by the individual meetings. Some Meetings do have pastors BTW, but most do not and have only unprogramed worship.

Siege · Post by **Siege** » 2008-05-23 06:55pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:For the love of our evil sky god, Amish and Quaker are not the fucking same thing, I have no idea on earth why this is such a common belief.

Hey, don't expect us poor folk living on continents thousands of kilometers away from CONUS to flawlessly tell your peculiar denominations apart

. The only thing I knew about Quakers previously to your post was that there's a breakfast cereal on the market carrying that name...

fusion · Post by **fusion** » 2008-05-23 06:59pm

Cannot and will not be able to wait for more of this awesome fic.

Lets see the power of the artillery!

tim31 · Post by **tim31** » 2008-05-23 07:56pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
tim31 wrote:Yes, the Testimony of Integrity seems to be a quaker thing... I didn't think quakers were as introverted as Amish.
It is a Quaker thing, but its wording and its meaning are by not means some static block of text to be recited, same with all the other testimonies. In all reality Quaker beliefs are variable and set by the individual meetings. Some Meetings do have pastors BTW, but most do not and have only unprogramed worship.

Interesting to learn you're a quaker. I had a lot of friends who to a quaker school, and got some insights into the way... None of them(as far as I know) were from quaker families, it just happened to be the most exclusive school in the area.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2008-05-23 07:59pm

tim31 wrote: Interesting to learn you're a quaker. I had a lot of friends who to a quaker school, and got some insights into the way... None of them(as far as I know) were from quaker families, it just happened to be the most exclusive school in the area.

That’s pretty common, and reflects the rather non imposing nature of Quaker beliefs. Even if you’re a hard core atheist it would be hard to actually reject much of anything the Quakers would say to your kids in a Quaker school, and usually overt religions content is limited to a half hour or so of meeting for worship per week.

Stuart · Post by **Stuart** » 2008-05-23 08:45pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:About those AGS-17s on the BMP-2s, a couple mounts on the engine deck would be awful hard to operate, but Russia already sells kit to put one in a pod on the side of the turret.

Not on the engine deck, that's at the front. The BMP-2 had two sets of two roof hatches over the aft crew compartment, the AGS-17s are fitted in place of the forward pair of hatches so they can be fired from the rear pair. It's an Afghanistan modification.

Normally, the BMP-2 has a crew of three and seven infantry, in these vehicles, the infantry group has been cut to two due to manpower shortages. On the other hand the back of the vehicle is stuffed tight with ammunition, RPG-7/16/18/22/26/29s and Strela/Igla SAMs

It is a Quaker thing, but its wording and its meaning are by not means some static block of text to be recited, same with all the other testimonies. In all reality Quaker beliefs are variable and set by the individual meetings. Some Meetings do have pastors BTW, but most do not and have only unprogramed worship.

The people working in Free Hell are supposed to be a mixture of the Peace Churches that won't fight but want to do their share. I deliberately mixed Quaker, Amish and Mennonite characteristics so the person speaking is a sort of composite representation of the group. I included them as an acknowledgement that despite these groups being conscientious objectors in most wars and not participating in combatant roles, they very frequently did work that was none the less dangerous and very unpleasant (like, for example, retrieving casualties etc.) It should be noted that members of the Peace Churches are very prominent in mine clearance efforts in mine-infested parts of the world and quite a few have been killed or maimed in these programs.

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