SD.net's World OOC/Discussion thread MK III

[RogueIce]

You gonna financially back McFibblestein's campaign, fucker?

At some point the "reveal" that the International Space Agency is donating heavily to his campaign will come, but for now I'm going to blitz you country in adds.

Wait a minute, the ISA? Is that the one on Atlantis?

I have to ask because you tend to mix up terms a bit.

[RogueIce]

So a quick summary concerning Saddamistan:

We'll support inspections to be sure, but based on the evidence at hand we can't demand an ultimatum or attack. Not after Saddamistan made his accusation against Libertia and never backed those up, either.

(Of course the revalations from the UKB put things in a bit of a different light, but those aren't known to the world at large, not certainly in public. And until me and Bean finish up our chat from the past it'll be hard to place all of that in context with the current situation)

In either case, Stas is going to have to give me personal assurances that there will be no secret plans they're going to exclude us from if we're going to go out there and give him public support. We don't want the rug pulled out from under us a second time.

And if it is, well, needless to say we'll be pretty damn pissed.

Although given Saddamistan's reaction (not wholly unexpected) we'll have to wait and see. But I can't just commit the MESS to military action when all we have for solid proof is that there are bunkers and trains which might have biological weapons, in a land that is probably but not for sure Saddamistan (since I don't think anyone outside of them really know the geography).

[Raj Ahten]

As far as Sadaamistan goes, Indhopal is not happy with their activities at all. Their un-allied status makes them very reluctant to issue ultimatums though, and their one regiment army isn't exactly intimidating. ProTec also finds Sadaamistan problematic. They figure it also only a matter of time until they start serious covert or overt operations in the Sultanate. They do not want such a volatile player operating in Libertopia. One reason they have been helping the Sultan, especially by training his guards, is to prevent his assassination and replacement with a pro Sadaam faction.

[Mr Bean]

Damn it I lost the reply I was typing, OK MK II

No, Northray Corp owns and operates a satellite TV business. Of course, since we have it set up to only need one satellite for the entire archipelago, it was significantly cheaper to do.

Minus the fact you needed a rocket which could lift six tons into GEO, and those are not cheap. Speaking of which, what rocket did you use? I'd have to use a VULKAN myself due to the Proton-M topping out at 3 tons to GEO, and a Saturn is overkill. Just wondering

WTH?The only stuff I launch from Atlantis is LEO stuff, since it's bad for business for someone from OMSK with an itchy trigger finger to blow a satellite out of the sky (amongst other things, that entire orbital plane is contaminated with debris).

Yeah that came out wrong, I'll say that one was Nixon's fault. What I meant to say is that Beowulf knows what Atlantis is for(Launching LEO Satellites and anything else you want), why can't poor Shroom get it through his head?

Meanwhile Tian Xia has an active space program, but not that active, it is already built, his ten billion have already been spent.

Wait a minute, the ISA? Is that the one on Atlantis?

I have to ask because you tend to mix up terms a bit.

Funny, but the ISA is the International Space Agency based out of Atlantis, I never said they were a non-profit. (They are) They are charged with expanding the usage of the Atlantis launch facility as well as staffing for said launches and maintaining facilites. One of the ways to attract investment to ISA is to convince countries with existing space programs to relocate to Atlantis to save money.

[phongn]

Minus the fact you needed a rocket which could lift six tons into GEO, and those are not cheap. Speaking of which, what rocket did you use? I'd have to use a VULKAN myself due to the Proton-M topping out at 3 tons to GEO, and a Saturn is overkill. Just wondering

He has rockets that can do it. He is developing both the Atlas V and Delta IV families.

[The Yosemite Bear]

so have I managed to come up with worse mindless entertainment then current reality?

so far we have:
Deathrace: ultralight weight, very fast off road vehilces racing across a military desert proving ground. (yes, mad max type costumes are worn)

Watching Things Explode: quite literially lets see if something will explode or not, or just watching things get blown up. Basically every teen/male pyros dream...

Total Bastard: forcing a group of people to live together and give the prise to the one who can be the worst asshole to the others.

Pet Exorcist: See as religious experts try to deal with psychotic pets. (the power of Chr- get that dog off me, my balls, my balls!)

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Is there a particular range and scale for the map?

[Beowulf]

Damn it I lost the reply I was typing, OK MK II

No, Northray Corp owns and operates a satellite TV business. Of course, since we have it set up to only need one satellite for the entire archipelago, it was significantly cheaper to do.

Minus the fact you needed a rocket which could lift six tons into GEO, and those are not cheap. Speaking of which, what rocket did you use? I'd have to use a VULKAN myself due to the Proton-M topping out at 3 tons to GEO, and a Saturn is overkill. Just wondering

Delta-IV can do it. Anyway, you don't actually need to be able to lift 6 tons into GEO. The Boeing 702 is less than 3 metric tons. I've lofted more satellites so as to be able to increase the bandwidth, and therefore the number of channels, but I don't need 12 to do so.

WTH?The only stuff I launch from Atlantis is LEO stuff, since it's bad for business for someone from OMSK with an itchy trigger finger to blow a satellite out of the sky (amongst other things, that entire orbital plane is contaminated with debris).

Yeah that came out wrong, I'll say that one was Nixon's fault. What I meant to say is that Beowulf knows what Atlantis is for(Launching LEO Satellites and anything else you want), why can't poor Shroom get it through his head?

Meanwhile Tian Xia has an active space program, but not that active, it is already built, his ten billion have already been spent.

Not much less active than yours. I just haven't been trying to loft an absurdly oversubscribed satellite internet system. Atlantis is not for launching stuff that you don't want the entire world to look at before it gets launched.

Wait a minute, the ISA? Is that the one on Atlantis?

I have to ask because you tend to mix up terms a bit.

Funny, but the ISA is the International Space Agency based out of Atlantis, I never said they were a non-profit. (They are) They are charged with expanding the usage of the Atlantis launch facility as well as staffing for said launches and maintaining facilites. One of the ways to attract investment to ISA is to convince countries with existing space programs to relocate to Atlantis to save money.

You can only really save money if you can manage to relocate all your infrastructure to Atlantis, which makes your space program a waste of money. Hence, it won't happen.

Is there a particular range and scale for the map?

Maps is approximately 5000km wide.

[Zor]

On a Less "Impending Nuclear Holocaust" note, Zoria is working on a Lunar Probe for exploration of Selene, having tragicly lost our ability to get stuff like this into space, we would really like it if someone could get this device into orbit.

Zor

[phongn]

Is there a particular range and scale for the map?

The map has a scale on it.

[Shroom Man 777]

Goddamn it. I knew it was cutting it late to get a (Zorian) space programme. Fuck.

Sorry Zor v__v

(Anyone have any idea what me and Zor and the FUN can do with that island instead?)

[The Yosemite Bear]

Decontamination/recovery hospital for your astronauts. You can launch, just has to be from atlantis.

Part of the Reason that the BR was so hot on building the upper atmosphere communication airships. competition for Bean's Sats. Also wanted some eavesdropping capabilities of our own.

[RogueIce]

Funny, but the ISA is the International Space Agency based out of Atlantis, I never said they were a non-profit. (They are) They are charged with expanding the usage of the Atlantis launch facility as well as staffing for said launches and maintaining facilites. One of the ways to attract investment to ISA is to convince countries with existing space programs to relocate to Atlantis to save money.

So why is our supposedly neutral space program getting involved in partisan politics in the LSR? Further, why are you RPing them?

And congratulations people. If your intent was to see how serious we were about not arming Terra Libertia, you're about to find out.

[The Yosemite Bear]

I've not been doing that, in fact I've been trying to hire people, and building hospitals. Of course my police in the Sultanate, and my hospitals in Ramsley's and Alexander's territory do have their own defensive capabilities, which should probably scare the locals. After all a superpower with hospital ect....

[phongn]

And congratulations people. If your intent was to see how serious we were about not arming Terra Libertia, you're about to find out.

I haven't broken a single requirement of that ICTR arms control regime.

[The Yosemite Bear]

And congratulations people. If your intent was to see how serious we were about not arming Terra Libertia, you're about to find out.

I haven't broken a single requirement of that ICTR arms control regime.

Me neither.

though the anti-epilepsy, anti-person with weakened health due to not sleeping combined with sensory sensitivity GIF may actually become a nasty thing that might bite me in the ass too.

[phongn]

For that matter, the IRT doesn't recognize the authority of the ICTR, and in no way recognizes the authority of any blockading force against the region.

[Shroom Man 777]

Um. I am an idiot. What does the ICTR mean?

And I should've known that selling prodigious quantities of arms to Tonkin would've led to prodigious quantities of arms ending up in their stuff in Libertia. Goddamn!

[The Yosemite Bear]

and to think, I offered to buy them for testing project "Hammer", or go through older modeledvehicles like a cat goes through family heirlooms on a shelf.

[phongn]

Um. I am an idiot. What does the ICTR mean?

International Conference on Terra Libertia.

And I should've known that selling prodigious quantities of arms to Tonkin would've led to prodigious quantities of arms ending up in their stuff in Libertia. Goddamn!

Come on man! I have said - repeatedly - that I have a small standing army. What do you think I was going to do with huge numbers of APCs?

[Shroom Man 777]

Well... the Prime Minister has reacted to this sudden yet obvious realization in a really untowards way.

What the hell does the R mean in ITCR? International Conference on Terra Libertia. Was it written by Japanese folks who can't pronounce the retter 'L' properly?

[phongn]

#$(I$_#

ICTL. Goddamnit, my university is so involved in a conference called ICPR that I didn't even realize what I was doing.

[RogueIce]

For that matter, the IRT doesn't recognize the authority of the ICTR, and in no way recognizes the authority of any blockading force against the region.

Then look at it from a corporate perspective. The MESS has been some of your best and most consistent trading partners. Now, compared to the obvious negative reaction you'll get from trying to run our blockade, which makes more sense for you? Send those APCs to Alexander in direct contravention of stated MESS policies, and risk an armed confrontation between IRT and MESS naval forces, or simply wait and aid the rest of us in getting Alexandria to the point the world community is willing to send them APCs and the like?

The ICTL agreement was for small arms with items such as armored fighting vehicles expressly forbidden. The MESS had gone further earlier to ban any arms shipment, but we've modified that to allow the small arms. APCs, tactical aircraft, missiles, etc. will be intercepted and stopped.

And keep in mind with the military advisors, if you or Shep have the misguided notion to destroy the Sultanate because of Jihad loonies that are no longer acting with the official sanction of the Sultanate, we would consider that an unprovoked act of war against a sovereign nation. And possibly genocide, depending on just how you plan to "pacify" the Sultanate. And we will respond appropriately.

[Shroom Man 777]

I wonder if the IRT is working with some of the Lonestars. With El Presidente (temporarily?) out of the picture, maybe some vengeance-mad General Turgidson could be authorizing this...

[RogueIce]

I wonder if the IRT is working with some of the Lonestars. With El Presidente (temporarily?) out of the picture, maybe some vengeance-mad General Turgidson could be authorizing this...

Should rogue elements in the Lone Star Republic be found guilty of conspiracy in these matters, it is our hope that their government will bring them to swift and sure justice.