SD.net's World OOC/Discussion thread MK III

Fingolfin_Noldor · Post by **Fingolfin_Noldor** » 2008-05-25 11:45am

DarthShady wrote:
Shroom Man 777 wrote:Goddamn it. Who is up to that task?!
What task?

Ok, i am calling a conference. As Shroom said it's about time we had one.

Woho, we in FUN will have Space Marines! Soviet Space Marines!
Awesome.

Shady do you want to give it a shot? This Ramsley is modeled after a Orthodox Patriarch who's a Serb/Croat/anyone in the Balkans. Seeing as such you happen to be living in that area itself.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2008-05-25 11:46am

Reload. Also, Ender doesn't have a map yet. But he's somewhere east of Adrianopolis!

That's the free place on the map for a big nation.

FUN is getting better.

As for UAR, frankly if it's them versus MESS, I'd give it to the MESS hands down.

Raj Ahten · Post by **Raj Ahten** » 2008-05-25 11:47am

Oh, by the way Sroom Man, the Genova's Witnesses are full of win. Some nice fun among all the possibilities of bio-plagues and war.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2008-05-25 11:48am

Jenova

Final Fantasy for the wiN!!

EDIT: To the FUN

I believe "Security Council" sounds... Eh... Why not call it "Administrative Commitee"? Security Council will no doubt cause memories of the now-defunct OMSK SC.

Fingolfin_Noldor · Post by **Fingolfin_Noldor** » 2008-05-25 11:50am

Raj Ahten wrote:Oh, by the way Sroom Man, the Genova's Witnesses are full of win. Some nice fun among all the possibilities of bio-plagues and war.

Militant Hippies. Just what this world needs.

DarthShady · Post by **DarthShady** » 2008-05-25 11:52am

Shady do you want to give it a shot? This Ramsley is modeled after a Orthodox Patriarch who's a Serb/Croat/anyone in the Balkans.

No thanks.

I lived through a Libertia of sorts, and don't want anything to do with it.

Give it to Raj or somebody.

EDIT:

I believe "Security Council" sounds... Eh... Why not call it "Administrative Commitee"? Security Council will no doubt cause memories of the now-defunct OMSK SC. Sad

Agreed. "Administrative Commitee" sounds better to me.

Fingolfin_Noldor · Post by **Fingolfin_Noldor** » 2008-05-25 12:07pm

Sheesh... For me to handle the Patriarch is as good as asking me to do a Mitosis and hope that both "me" can be impartial.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2008-05-25 12:36pm

What is in that boat, phong? Are you pulling off something like what Saddam did with his nuclear waste?

Post by **Coyote** » 2008-05-25 12:37pm

Hmmm.... lemmee think about it; I may be able to handle Ramsley....

[EDIT]: Actually, I'd like permission to set up an "evil account" sock puppet, for use only in the STGOD forum. I do this in SB.com, where I use "Darth Coyotus" as my alternate-ID for setting up evil plots.... Bean, would I have to go to DW for that, or...?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2008-05-25 12:38pm

Shroom Man 777 wrote:What is in that boat, phong? Are you pulling off something like what Saddam did with his nuclear waste?

There are hints of what I've been doing scattered in a few posts. You'll see.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2008-05-25 12:40pm

Coyote wrote:Hmmm.... lemmee think about it; I may be able to handle Ramsley....

Yes!

Phong: Are those the APCs?

FUN: Hay, guys. Do we buy phong's rockets?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2008-05-25 12:46pm

Shroom Man 777 wrote: Yes!

Phong: Are those the APCs?

FUN: Hay, guys. Do we buy phong's rockets?

I have spare Proton-M production ability which is by far the cheapest most reliable rocket on the planet(Both Nova Terra and Old EartH). And until you want to launch your own Hubble or Space station you don't need anything bigger.

Time to dissolve OMSK

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2008-05-25 01:02pm

Mr Bean wrote:I have spare Proton-M production ability which is by far the cheapest most reliable rocket on the planet(Both Nova Terra and Old EartH). And until you want to launch your own Hubble or Space station you don't need anything bigger.

Proton-M's launch costs are cheaper partially because of lower infrastructure and labor costs, too. Those factors don't apply here: I expect launch costs to be pretty similar. Now, you can mass produce, but so can I, and Falcon is specifically designed to be cheap to make and launch in numbers.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Phong: Are those the APCs?

I cannot confirm or deny.

FUN: Hay, guys. Do we buy phong's rockets?

BUY THEM. They are awesome.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2008-05-25 01:11pm

Or you can get Delta-IV, which is scalable from 20 tons to about 50 tons as is, and that doesn't take into account improvements that will occur, such as TAN, use of other materials in the construction of the rockets, etc.

Or if you're interested in very lightweight satellites, the Starbooster 10 is quite capable of doing so, for much cheaper cost per pound than any other rocket system. Should be ready early next year.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2008-05-25 01:31pm

Or buy Proton-M's which I'm willing to beat their prices at, even if I have to sell at a loss... why? Because I'm anti-free trade bastard.
But I'm YOUR bastard.

Unless you need very lightweight satellites(Under half a ton) in which case Beowulf's starbooster is a good deal. I'd have to built a rocket from scratch to do the ultra-light launchs, it's not been interesting since the number of things you need to launch is running low.

We have, Satellite GPS, TV, Phone, Internet, Communication, Navigation, Weather.

That's all the bases, all that's left is Purely Scientific, and manned stations.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2008-05-25 01:32pm

phongn wrote:
FUN: Hay, guys. Do we buy phong's rockets?
BUY THEM. They are awesome.

That is the best sales pitch EVER!

EDIT:

As for now, we'll take our space ambitions sloooow. We have more pressing concerns...

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2008-05-25 02:07pm

Thus ends OMSK, Two years eight months and six days.

DarthShady · Post by **DarthShady** » 2008-05-25 02:14pm

Mr Bean wrote:Thus ends OMSK, Two years eight months and six days.

Very nice speech.

As for now, we'll take our space ambitions sloooow. We have more pressing concerns...

Space can wait, until the world stabilizes a bit.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2008-05-25 03:23pm

Because I want to rule the world.

Master_Baerne · Post by **Master_Baerne** » 2008-05-25 03:36pm

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Because I want to rule the world.

Well, you're not ambitious at all. Not even a little bit.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2008-05-25 03:40pm

Yes, but I always find myself compulsively looking at that map almost every other time I make a post. Why? I don't know. But I am starting to think of myself as some kind of scheming Bond villain...

Don't you see?! My relative non-ambition in international dickery and pissery and feather-ruffling is the most sinister act of all! I profit from peace, prosper from... placidity! Even in the most turbulent of times, I slack off and laze around and try and make a buck for everywhere and make sure the people are well-fed and not irradiated! That is why the FUN shall inherit the New Earth! That is why I am the largest of all cockroaches!

MU-HA-HA-HA-HAAAAA!!!!

Yes. Being friendly and amicable is awesome. *bums about*

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2008-05-25 04:10pm

Well, king Paul will not attend the conference in person for obvious reasons, but we will send a representative.

The key issues would be:

1) The FUN administrative body. What are its obligations, authority and voting rules.

2) Separate FUN space program: yea or nay?

3) Defence strategy (we need to push JASD forward)

4) Obviously, Saddamistan and Libertia. Goddamned Libertia!

Oh, and we really should aim for the moons. A Proton-M can easily launch a series of unmanned probes and rovers as far as Selene. It will be great preparation for an eventual manned mission, and will make Terra Novan scientists piss themselves with joy.

Also, since our local system is so fucked up (three moons?) we really,really need experience in navigating it

On the FUN space program, we really should have our own launch capability. I'm all for contracting the UKB for launching most stuff, but it's really common sense that we get to launch our own sats and manned capsules just in case.

Master_Baerne · Post by **Master_Baerne** » 2008-05-25 04:27pm

PeZook wrote:Well, king Paul will not attend the conference in person for obvious reasons, but we will send a representative.

Aw, and I was so looking forward to personally congratulating you on your (medical) progress.

The key issues would be:

1) The FUN administrative body. What are its obligations, authority and voting rules.

I've no opinion as to the exact manner of our governance, but a committee seems to be the only way to do it.

2) Separate FUN space program: yea or nay?

Yea. I'll provide what monies I can, and it seems that, with the Bear Republic and the Red Technocracy, we've got the ability to do it.

3) Defence strategy (we need to push JASD forward)

What's this?

4) Obviously, Saddamistan and Libertia. Goddamned Libertia!

We can't hope to overcome Saddamistan in a military confrontation, especially now that Shepnukistan has joined them in the Unholy Alliance. and Libertia is equally beyond our means to solve. I suggest that we provide what humanitarian aid we can, but otherwise keep our noses out, and therefore unskinned.

Vohu Manah · Post by **Vohu Manah** » 2008-05-25 05:13pm

The positions of the Qudlivun Free State are as follows:

PeZook wrote:1) The FUN administrative body. What are its obligations, authority and voting rules.

We believe that such a body should exist but have no specific recommendations at this time.

PeZook wrote:2) Separate FUN space program: yea or nay?

Yea on a joint space program within FUN, funded by all nations. However all developments will be decidedly non-military. I believe communications and research satellites should be our opening priority.

PeZook wrote:3) Defence strategy (we need to push JASD forward)

Other than developing the defenses of our respective nations so that invasion or attack would be too costly for even a powerful nation to carry out we have no comment.

PeZook wrote:4) Obviously, Saddamistan and Libertia. Goddamned Libertia!

Libertia, in my opinion, needs to still demonstrate that they can operate as a state and are worth our attention before we invest anything in that nation. Humanitarian aid is fine in limited amounts until that occurs. As for Saddamistan we should build up our defenses to make an attack by them too costly to carry out while attempting to engage them diplomatically.

PeZook wrote:Also, since our local system is so fucked up (three moons?) we really,really need experience in navigating it

My nation has a vessel equipped to do oceanographic research but it is only one ship.

Zor · Post by **Zor** » 2008-05-25 06:09pm

PeZook wrote:Well, king Paul will not attend the conference in person for obvious reasons, but we will send a representative.

The key issues would be:

1) The FUN administrative body. What are its obligations, authority and voting rules.

A Parliamentry system, each nation has two MP's (on by popular election, one by apointment), who compose a federal body.

2) Separate FUN space program: yea or nay?

Yea! Especially if i can get my areospace industry building stuff for orbital launch.

3) Defence strategy (we need to push JASD forward)

As well as each of our national militaries, i say we create a FUN military force, a sort of Elite force a division or two in size. I say we call this FUN Rapid Action Responce Command, or for short RARCOM. as well as a Strategic Defense System.

Although i am bringing up the issue of Nuclear Weaponry and our policy towards it?

4) Obviously, Saddamistan and Libertia. Goddamned Libertia!

I am in favour of General Neutrality to internal Libertian Conflicts, let them blow each up and don't send so much as a single gunstock to any of the factions. On Saddamistan, we need alot of defenses.

Oh, and we really should aim for the moons. A Proton-M can easily launch a series of unmanned probes and rovers as far as Selene. It will be great preparation for an eventual manned mission, and will make Terra Novan scientists piss themselves with joy.

I am all for it, Zoria has a spaceprobe with orbiter and rover in a warehouse designed to go to Selene waiting for someone to send it up.

Zor