Space Marine vs Sentinels

[hongi]

1) 1 average unarmed (AKA no powerfist) Space Marine from any Chapter you wish vs 1 Sentinel. CQB fight to death. Who wins?

2) Battle of Zion. The Zion defenders, including the big honking gun in the middle and all the APUs are waved away. In their place is a Space Marine chapter of your own choosing. They get a week to prepare for the defence of Zion. The SMs get their standard equipment, and weapon founderies are inside the city, so they can make the modifications for ammunition and such. At the end of a week, the 250,000 sized Sentinel force invades, bent on total destruction. Who wins?

A) Vehicles (the ordinary quantity available to a chapter) included.

B) Vehicles not included.

[PeZook]

1) 1 average unarmed (AKA no powerfist) Space Marine from any Chapter you wish vs 1 Sentinel. CQB fight to death. Who wins?

Is he unarmored,too? I'm not sure how he could kill the Sentinel with his bare hands ; Then again, we have no idea how "strong" the Sentinels really are. All in all, they have a lot of arms and a built-in laser, so one could, most likely, pin a Marine down and fry him.

Unless he manages to spit acid into its optical sensors.

2) Battle of Zion. The Zion defenders, including the big honking gun in the middle and all the APUs are waved away. In their place is a Space Marine chapter of your own choosing. They get a week to prepare for the defence of Zion. The SMs get their standard equipment, and weapon founderies are inside the city, so they can make the modifications for ammunition and such. At the end of a week, the 250,000 sized Sentinel force invades, bent on total destruction. Who wins?

He...hehehe.....hehehehehehehehe.

They have weapon foundries and full 1000 Marines available? Jesus, man...

The Marines can achieve the objective of the defenders by simply destroying the giant drills with their plethora of heavy weapons. Shoot enough heavy munitions at them, and you are bound to damage something vital.

Hell, if they have the entire chapter, they just fire some special munitions at the things and take them out with the first salvo. Then there are various anti-electronic means of combat, and of course...Librarians.

With a week to prepare, the Marines can build proper fortifications, emplace heavy bolters and stockpile as much ammunition as possible. They are armored, which means they have to be individually pinned down and cracked open with Sentinel lasers. Even if we assume their lasers can crack open Space Marine armor, they will work in groups and out of prepared positions, which means they can easily shoot Sentinels pinning down their battle-brothers. Zion guns were easily enough to destroy Sentinels, bolters will rape them.

After the drills are destroyed, it's just a matter of mopping up the Sentinels. It gets even easier if the Marines retreat into tight corridors and massacre Sentinels there, but it may not even be necessary.

A) Vehicles (the ordinary quantity available to a chapter) included.

An even more horrible massacre ensues.

B) Vehicles not included.

They can do that easily with 1000 Battle-brothers. Easier if you include a chapter like the Dark Templars, who maintain something like 7000 brothers

[hongi]

Is he unarmored,too?

He has his armour. But no Terminator shit, he's average for a reason.

[Brother-Captain Gaius]

For the purposes of this I will assume my Chapter of choice, Imperial Fists.

1) 1 average unarmed (AKA no powerfist) Space Marine from any Chapter you wish vs 1 Sentinel. CQB fight to death. Who wins?

It took Sentinels quite awhile to peel through the ship in the original film. Assuming the ship was made of steel and similar alloys, an armored Space Marine should be able to take down a Sentinel without too much difficulty.

2) Battle of Zion. The Zion defenders, including the big honking gun in the middle and all the APUs are waved away. In their place is a Space Marine chapter of your own choosing. They get a week to prepare for the defence of Zion. The SMs get their standard equipment, and weapon founderies are inside the city, so they can make the modifications for ammunition and such. At the end of a week, the 250,000 sized Sentinel force invades, bent on total destruction. Who wins?

A) Vehicles (the ordinary quantity available to a chapter) included.

Why do you hate the Matrix? Wait, don't answer that.

The Space Marines scoff at the proscribed mission objective and instead launch a pre-emptive strike on the machine city. The entirety of Holy Terra is liberated inside of 48 hours with statistically insignificant casualties.

B) Vehicles not included.

The Marines dig in and annihilate the attacking machine force. Using scavenged materiel, they wage a methodical global war and Holy Terra is liberated within a few months with few casualities.

Honestly, pitting an entire Space Marine Chapter against low-end nonsense like the Matrix machines? That's just sadism.

[PeZook]

The Space Marines scoff at the proscribed mission objective and instead launch a pre-emptive strike on the machine city. The entirety of Holy Terra is liberated inside of 48 hours with statistically insignificant casualties.

Heh...if they have vehicles, they can possibly launch haywire missiles from their Whirlwinds into the tunnel the Machines dug from the surface...hehe...

That's gonna turn the assault force into a huge underground rust deposit.

And, of course, the machines' brilliant "Unable to shoot at ballistic targets" would make the city a great target for standoff artillery.

[Shroom Man 777]

Armored but unarmed? The Space Marine stabs the Sentinel to death with a combat knife.

Bitch.

[Starglider]

2) Battle of Zion. The Zion defenders, including the big honking gun in the middle and all the APUs are waved away. In their place is a Space Marine chapter of your own choosing. They get a week to prepare for the defence of Zion. The SMs get their standard equipment, and weapon founderies are inside the city, so they can make the modifications for ammunition and such. At the end of a week, the 250,000 sized Sentinel force invades, bent on total destruction. Who wins?

The correct question is not 'how long will it take to wipe out 250,000 lightly armed and armoured floating bots', it is 'how long will it take the Space Marines to destroy the entire machine civilisation and recapture Earth in the name of The Emporer'. The Matrix combatants are really that pathetic.

[Teleros]

You know, when I first read this I thought "Marines vs IG Sentinels... not fair on the sentinels unless it's open terrain". Then I saw it was against the Matrix sentinels. Oh boy...

1) Depends on how strong the sentinel is. That laser of theirs didn't seem amazing, but they're physically quite strong and can fly around too. Even if they're not strong enough enough to kill the Marine, they could pick him up and toss him around, drop him etc.

2) What Brother-Captain Gaius said. The Marines have far superior equipment, tactics & personnel: the machines do not AFAIK have any counter to things like artillery, let alone a squadron of Thunderhawk Gunships providing air support and redeploying squads etc. Even worse, the sentinels are coming through from just a few bottlenecks.

[Ghost Rider]

...

Just going to lock because this is literally having a blind babay face off against a pack of lions.

Gaius summed it up best.

"The Space Marines scoff at the proscribed mission objective and instead launch a pre-emptive strike on the machine city. The entirety of Holy Terra is liberated inside of 48 hours with statistically insignificant casualties."

So yes, locking.