Hillary to concede delegate victory to Obama today

cosmicalstorm · Post by **cosmicalstorm** » 2008-06-03 11:19am

Could it finally be over?

(CNN) -- The titanic struggle for the Democratic candidacy neared its end Tuesday with final voting expected to push Hillary Clinton aside and usher in Barack Obama as the first ever black U.S. presidential nomination for a major political party.
Two senior Clinton campaign officials told The Associated Press she will concede Tuesday night or early Wednesday that Obama has done enough to secure the Democratic nomination, but she will stop short of formally suspending or ending her race.

Democrats in South Dakota and Montana are casting the final votes in a long and bitter campaign that has cost the candidates dearly in dollars and left the party struggling to unite to challenge Republican John McCain and succeed George W. Bush at the White House.

Obama needs the support of about 40 more Democratic delegates to make the 2,118 needed to capture the nomination at the party's August convention but he is likely to depend on superdelegates -- party officials free to back any candidate -- to tip the balance.

The Illinois senator, who has sought to dispel fears of inexperience by campaigning on a message of change, has emerged as favorite in recent weeks despite a dogged campaign by Clinton who as former first lady claims to have more political experience.

Although campaigns for both parties said there had been no formal discussion, sources close to Clinton said she was poised to acknowledge her inevitable defeat by Tuesday signaling her willingness to accept an offer of becoming Obama's running mate if asked.

"In her speech tomorrow night she will convey the message that first and foremost she is committed to Democrats winning in November and will do whatever she's asked to do," a close friend of the New York senator said.

Her husband, former U.S. President Bill Clinton, also told voters in South Dakota on Monday that "this may be the last day I'm ever involved in a campaign of this kind." Video Watch how the race could end »

Obama insiders are said to be split over whether a joint ticket with Clinton will be a good idea, with some doubting she can deliver, despite claims the pairing would help "ram down the animosity" between supporters of the two that many fear could cost the Democrats the election.

Democratic Party insiders are also discussing how to patch up Clinton's relationship with the black community and how to bring African American Clinton supporters into the Obama fold, several top Clinton supporters said.

Feuding between the two camps reached fever pitch at the height of the campaign, after Clinton and Obama saw off main rival John Edwards then traded blows on sideline issues including Obama's links to a controversial preacher and Clinton's claims to have dodged bullets in Bosnia.

At least one superdelegate -- the highest-ranking African American in Congress Jim Clyburn -- announced his endorsement Obama on Tuesday, saying Obama had "energized" constituents.
But despite forecasts of defeat, Clinton -- dubbed the "comeback kid" for earlier popularity resurgences -- campaigned into the night on Monday, clinging to the outside prospect of an upset in the final two U.S. states to make their selections in the six month primary voting season.

Clinton told voters in South Dakota Monday: "We're going to make our case to all the delegates as to who would be the best president, number one -- because that's the most important question -- and number two, who would be the stronger candidate against John McCain; and I believe on both of those questions I am the person who should get the support to get the nomination for our party."

CNN senior political correspondent Candy Crowley reported that "only a handful of people at the inner core of the Clinton campaign knows what she's thinking about doing when Tuesday's dust settles."
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"Those who have been with her since nearly the beginning are saying she will not push this into the convention.

"As one close Clinton supporter put it, she's acutely aware of her place in the party. She will not ruin the party."

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06 ... index.html

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2008-06-03 12:15pm

And CNN now has her saying "NO! I DIDN'T SAY THAT!"

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2008-06-03 12:21pm

It looks to me like she is only conceding the DELEGATE victory to Obama. She still insists that she won the popular vote (thanks to her incredibly distorted way of counting it), and that the party should pick her as the candidate.

The Spartan · Post by **The Spartan** » 2008-06-03 12:44pm

Darth Wong wrote:It looks to me like she is only conceding the DELEGATE victory to Obama. She still insists that she won the popular vote (thanks to her incredibly distorted way of counting it), and that the party should pick her as the candidate.

So what does she think happens when all the Republicans who crossed the party lines to vote for her as a way of voting against Obama vote for Johnny McDouche in the general election? Or when the Republicans drag her ass through the mud and glass while she shrieks like a goddamn harpy alienating whatever is left of her non-zombified support?

Got an answer for any of that you stupid, selfish, dissembling cunt?

Falkenhayn · Post by **Falkenhayn** » 2008-06-03 01:00pm

Darth Wong wrote:It looks to me like she is only conceding the DELEGATE victory to Obama. She still insists that she won the popular vote (thanks to her incredibly distorted way of counting it), and that the party should pick her as the candidate.

Didn't Harold Ickes sit on the rules committee that disallowed Florida and Michigan? Didn't he vote for those resolutions? Wasn't one of Clinton's metrics "I've won more electoral votes" when Obama had both popular and delegates locked up? Didn't Terry "Count Every Vote!" McAuliffe say this whole damn show should be over by Super Tuesday? Aren't there four caucus states won handily by Obama that don't even total their popular votes? Why aren't those voters disenfranchised, Mrs. Clinton?

It's ok with me though; the more cues she takes from Custer or Roland, the less I have to worry about her pushing for VP.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2008-06-03 01:07pm

We all mocked Bill for making up his own definitions to words, but now we see who he got it from.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2008-06-03 01:17pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:We all mocked Bill for making up his own definitions to words, but now we see who he got it from.

The viper probably told him what to say...

Wait no. Vipers are glorious, honorable ambush predators, marvels of evolution. They have to much dignity to be lumped together with the likes of her

Davis 51 · Post by **Davis 51** » 2008-06-03 01:23pm

What the hell is he hoping to accomplish? Does she really think that by dragging this on, she can somehow force a VP pick? Is she really that delusional?

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2008-06-03 01:31pm

Davis 51 wrote:What the hell is he hoping to accomplish? Does she really think that by dragging this on, she can somehow force a VP pick? Is she really that delusional?

She's delusional enough to think she's actually going to be the one making the acceptance speech on the podium. I really do think Hillary is that far gone.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2008-06-03 03:53pm

Darth Wong wrote:It looks to me like she is only conceding the DELEGATE victory to Obama. She still insists that she won the popular vote (thanks to her incredibly distorted way of counting it), and that the party should pick her as the candidate.

Remember, count the popular vote in the territories(Who can't vote for president), but not those in Caucus states(Who can).

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2008-06-03 04:03pm

It's just breaking on CNN that Hillary's claimed she's willing to take a Veep slot. . .course there's no article yet. So I have to wonder how long until her campaign recants.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2008-06-03 04:04pm

General Zod wrote:It's just breaking on CNN that Hillary's claimed she's willing to take a Veep slot. . .course there's no article yet. So I have to wonder how long until her campaign recants.

Too bad Ted Kennedy's in the hospital, he could drive Obama from the innauguration to the White House.

Crossroads Inc. · Post by **Crossroads Inc.** » 2008-06-03 04:47pm

here it s right here from yahoo:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080603/ap_on_el_pr/clinton

Hillary says she'l;l rubn as Veep "If it helps the party"

Gues what hillary... iT WONT
Thats right, no one WANTS You hillary, you LOST get over it and go home.. you will HURT The party as

Scottish Ninja · Post by **Scottish Ninja** » 2008-06-03 05:44pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:
General Zod wrote:It's just breaking on CNN that Hillary's claimed she's willing to take a Veep slot. . .course there's no article yet. So I have to wonder how long until her campaign recants.
Too bad Ted Kennedy's in the hospital, he could drive Obama from the innauguration to the White House.

I'm not sure you really want to say that, given the way Kennedy lost the 1980 Democratic nomination.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2008-06-03 05:45pm

Scottish Ninja wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:
General Zod wrote:It's just breaking on CNN that Hillary's claimed she's willing to take a Veep slot. . .course there's no article yet. So I have to wonder how long until her campaign recants.
Too bad Ted Kennedy's in the hospital, he could drive Obama from the innauguration to the White House.
I'm not sure you really want to say that, given the way Kennedy lost the 1980 Democratic nomination.

I'm not sure what we're talking about anymore. I was trying to imply Hillary might try to arrange for Obama's death and alluded to the incident in Chappaquaddick where Ted Kennedy caused a young woman's death. What are YOU talking about?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2008-06-03 05:54pm

Darth Wong wrote:It looks to me like she is only conceding the DELEGATE victory to Obama. She still insists that she won the popular vote (thanks to her incredibly distorted way of counting it), and that the party should pick her as the candidate.

So she's trying to set herself up as some sort of Gore 2.0?

Ohma · Post by **Ohma** » 2008-06-03 05:59pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:I'm not sure what we're talking about anymore. I was trying to imply Hillary might try to arrange for Obama's death and alluded to the incident in Chappaquaddick where Ted Kennedy caused a young woman's death. What are YOU talking about?

Oh you meant literally drive him to the inauguration.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2008-06-03 06:03pm

Ohma wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:I'm not sure what we're talking about anymore. I was trying to imply Hillary might try to arrange for Obama's death and alluded to the incident in Chappaquaddick where Ted Kennedy caused a young woman's death. What are YOU talking about?
Oh you meant literally drive him to the inauguration.

Yes. As in drive him off a bridge so Hillary can get innaugurated instead.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2008-06-03 06:38pm

Crossroads Inc. wrote:here it s right here from yahoo:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080603/ap_on_el_pr/clinton

Hillary says she'l;l rubn as Veep "If it helps the party"

Gues what hillary... iT WONT
Thats right, no one WANTS You hillary, you LOST get over it and go home.. you will HURT The party as

I'm not sure where you've been for the last 13 months, but it is quite apparent that there are a great many people who wanted and still want Hillary to be victorious.

As to the actual issue of whether or not he'll take her, I'm honestly not sure. On the one hand, her corrosively ruthless and dishonest campaign has soured me quite fully on her, and I don't believe that she deserves a spot on the ticket, but she may yet bring something to it. There is a strong possibilty that, as a VP, she will eliminate the chance that legions of disgruntled Clinton supporters will abandon Obama; however, I'm not sure how many of them will end up rejecting him anyways, and there are many other possibilities who bear comparable benefits (most significantly, not being Hillary Clinton, and thus taking some of the steam out of the Republican attack machine).

In the end, I'd much rather Obama choose someone like Richardson over Clinton, but I will understand if he takes her up on her offer.