Ever hear of this one? Body Integrity Identity Disorder

[The Duchess of Zeon]

This website is a better example of castration fetishism anyway, now that I look at it, and castration fetishism is certainly the correlation to BIID in regard to the genitals, NOT GID.

[Alyrium Denryle]

So, I suppose, it IS possible there is some sort of brain malfunction involved in BIID.

I think that part is pretty definite. Unless someone comes up with some mechanism for it that somehow works from the point of evolutionary biology...

And even that is contingent on whether or not there actually is a biological basis for BIID

I will abide no cartesian dualism here

Any mental phenomenon is also a biological phenomenon So there must be a biological basis... whether this is a disease process, some sort of injury like a stroke, or a developmental defect is another question. One thing I can see no mechanism for however is statistically predictable genetic variation in the population like homosexuality and probably trans-phenomenon are.

[Broomstick]

My bad - that could have been phrased better. I meant some sort of structural defect (such as damage from a stroke) or developmental problem (analogous to homornal shifts in GID) as opposed to fucked up thought patterns that might be amenable to forms of therapy less drastic than surgery.

Hmm... perhaps still not the best wording but I'm going to be optimistic and suppose people have some idea what I'm trying to say here.

[Adrian Laguna]

So saying that GID is a specific variant of BIID or a related condition tends to fall flat from the simple fact that Castration fetishism does in fact exist--and those people do not see themselves as being female. They're men who want to be castrated.

Do note that it's not always a fetish. A subset of men who become eunuchs do it not because of sexual kink, but rather because they simply can't stand what testerone does to them. If what these people say about their experiences is true, then castration would be appropriate treatment. Being horny and agressive all the time interferes with leading a productive life.

[Darth Wong]

Being horny and agressive all the time interferes with leading a productive life.

It's occurred to me that if my sex drive (which Rebecca has referred to as "insane") were taken away, I would have been a far more materially productive person in life. But then again, I might feel that my life would not be worth living.

[Broomstick]

There have also been instances of men with criminal sexual desires (rape, child molestation, etc.) asking for castration specifically to reduce a sex drive that is troublesome. There have even been instances of such men self-castrating. That is another category of castration-seeking beyond fetishism and BIID

[Adrian Laguna]

It's occurred to me that if my sex drive (which Rebecca has referred to as "insane") were taken away, I would have been a far more materially productive person in life. But then again, I might feel that my life would not be worth living.

Yes, but you enjoy your sex drive. I'm talking about people who hate theirs, and feel it is literally driving them insane. Not to mention testosterone's increase in aggressiveness, you don't spend your day to day life constantly wanting to bash someone's skull in.