Justin Sullivan, managing director of Regent Jet, which leases private airplanes, said most clients in real estate and on Wall Street are switching to chartered jets over private jets, and cutting their flight budgets by about 25 percent. One New York real estate developer cut his budget to less than $250,000 a year from $1.5 million a year.
“A year ago, he would have only flown Gulfstreams,” Mr. Sullivan said. “Now it’s moving to the point where he’s flying Beech jets and Learjets.”
Oh heavens - having to take a LEAR jet! How low class!
Starglider wrote:After all, even the American poor have it very easy compared to families in say contemporary Somalia or Dark Ages Europe - but we don't (normally) go around saying 'oh, be quiet Broomstick, your hardships are nothing compared to Joe Peasant living in 1132'.
Actually, my main bitch is not having access to healthcare. If that was taken care of I wouldn't have too many other complaints. (Not that Joe Peasent had much healthcare, either, but back then nobody did)
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory.Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
I suppose it's a matter of comparison, going down is always going to feel pretty bad...
But I echo broomstick's learjet sentiments. I can sure taste the insecurity and oh my, is it delicious!
By the way, what is the expression alluded to in the OP by the picture of a small violin?
Vendetta wrote:Richard Gatling was a pioneer in US national healthcare. On discovering that most soldiers during the American Civil War were dying of disease rather than gunshots, he turned his mind to, rather than providing better sanitary conditions and medical care for troops, creating a machine to make sure they got shot faster.
Oh heavens - having to take a LEAR jet! How low class!
Some people here in Russia were disappointed with the reaction of Russians over an oligarch spending $3 million for a 15 minute Jennifer Lopez concert at his birthday party or something. One of the arguments - of course! - "these men need to uphold their style and status". Wow, and waste the society's resources, right? Because it's his hordes of enterprise workers who made the profits that he unilaterally blows on "private jet flights" and other status-related nonsense.
Apparently if you don't blow your money into the fucked-up luxury industries, you're "low-class". I once again forgot how bizzare the world of rich people is. I remember seeing yuppies crying in interviews over worker strikes.
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Civil War Man wrote:I'm not even sure how I could spend that much money without going out of my way to spend it.
It's easy to spend a lot of money if you, like me, have a thing for buying up industry and infrastructure. Do you know how much a steel mill costs? I think it runs at a few milliards. The guys that confuse me are the ones who spend all their wealth on luxury. I mean shit, $1000 for a bottle of wine? For that price tag I'd expect it to give me multiple orgasms and make my excrement smell like grapes for a week.
That's because you wisely prefer to spend your resources on producing things, rather than consume them like the rich asseaters do.
At least when you're producing useful stuff, nobody can rightfully accuse you of being wasteful, unlike said rich fucktards.
The difference, I would think, between people like you and the people alluded to in the OP is that you know what it's like not to have resources. You know how precious goods and basic necessities are, and therefore you want to prevent such scarity from happening as much as possible. The rich greedy monsters, on the other hand, have never experienced poverty first hand and thus have an unrealistic view of the world.
Hawkwings wrote:By the way, what is the expression alluded to in the OP by the picture of a small violin?
When people were giving longwinded excuses to my Geography teacher for not doing their homework, he would mime sadly playing a violin. I think its in mimicry of how often its used at melodramatic moments in films.
Since an invisible violin is hard to convey on the internet, it's basically saying 'Oh no, that's so terrible, I'm so moved I simply must play a melancholy tune on my tiny violin'. Since a violin implies sympathy here, the size of the violin indicates just how much sympathy they have.
Hawkwings wrote:By the way, what is the expression alluded to in the OP by the picture of a small violin?
When people were giving longwinded excuses to my Geography teacher for not doing their homework, he would mime sadly playing a violin. I think its in mimicry of how often its used at melodramatic moments in films.
Since an invisible violin is hard to convey on the internet, it's basically saying 'Oh no, that's so terrible, I'm so moved I simply must play a melancholy tune on my tiny violin'. Since a violin implies sympathy here, the size of the violin indicates just how much sympathy they have.
I think it's "Spongebob Squarepant"'s use of the joke "That's so sad, let me play an aria of sorrow on the worlds smallest violin!" (Cue playing on matchstick sized violin).
Your explanation might precede it though .
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Hawkwings wrote:By the way, what is the expression alluded to in the OP by the picture of a small violin?
When people were giving longwinded excuses to my Geography teacher for not doing their homework, he would mime sadly playing a violin. I think its in mimicry of how often its used at melodramatic moments in films.
Since an invisible violin is hard to convey on the internet, it's basically saying 'Oh no, that's so terrible, I'm so moved I simply must play a melancholy tune on my tiny violin'. Since a violin implies sympathy here, the size of the violin indicates just how much sympathy they have.
I think it's "Spongebob Squarepant"'s use of the joke "That's so sad, let me play an aria of sorrow on the worlds smallest violin!" (Cue playing on matchstick sized violin).
Your explanation might precede it though .
Oh, no - it WAY proceeds Spongebob - I remember hearing it as a kid, or having people do the miming a violin (including one "world's smallest violin" variant using index finger and thumb). That would make it at least 40 years old.
Mind you, I have nothing against flying private airplanes - I've done it myself (although mine had props, not jets). But when I could no longer afford it I didn't whine and moan about it (which my Other Half is still shocked about). Sure, I'd like to get back in them again, but right now I don't have the money.
It's not just the entitlement, it's the bizarre status view that somehow a Gulfstream is more prestigious/better/whatever than a Lear or Beechcraft. WTF? They're all high-end bizjets, and if you're looking for speed I think the Lear is still the fastest (by a few hairs).
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory.Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
It's also sickening how these rich people are implanting the notion of status-obsessive materialism into the middle and lower classes. Of course it's natural to emulate the behavior of the rich and the powerful and the successful - if you follow the way the Silver Back Cro-Magnon hunts, you might also become a Great Hunter of the tribe. But, mangs, buying the blings and the fo' shizzle and ricing up your TINY car to make HUEG noises and buying consumer electronics up like disposable condoms - it's really counter productive
[And the rich encourage this behavior to make themselves richer! Talk about adaptation to exploit the environment!]
I'm glad that despite their financial hardships, less well-to-do folks like Broomy and her hubby are still going through it together while these vapid fatcats end up showing to us all just how hollow they are as their facade crumbles down like so much confetti.
Still, doesn't make the impending financial disaster any easier for any of us
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I guess the mechanism behind rich people not retireing after being wealthy beyond good and evil is the same that encourages World of Warcraft players to keep leveling their characters instead of taking their character out and having fun. Getting rich must be quite addictive.
Actually, I do both - I raid and PvP with my level 70 and I still enjoy leveling my alts. By analogy, nothing inherently wrong with being successful (and wealth is one of the symptoms of success in at least some cases) and nothing wrong with working hard, earning a profit, etc. - it's when you do nothing but suck money out of others, do so in unethical or illegal manners.
These people who divorce each other because incomes drop from 8 to 7 digits? Distorted view of reality. My income dropped from 5 digits to considerably fewer last November, oddly enough my spouse and I are still married. Of course, there are people who divorce if one of the pair become disabled and I married a crip, so perhaps I'm an outlier.
Anyhow - I know someone who made a LOT of money on Microsoft stock then lost most of it in the dot.com bust. Yeah, he's not spending money like he used to, and he had to end a lot of projects he was working on, but he doesn't complain much - as he says, he not AS rich but he is STILL RICH. He will be able to live comfortably for the rest of his life, as will his children. No sign of an impending divorce, either, although his net worth dropped three digits, not just one. The folks featured in the NY Times article are spoiled airheads, but not all wealthy are that fucked in the head.
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory.Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
See I can't stand rich people who spend shit tons of money on stupid stuff. I cringe at spending more than 20 bucks on necessities.
Hell if I could blow 3 million dollars on a J.Lo concert I would be investing shit like crazy. I'd almost entirely use my money to make more money and get people on job training programs so I don't have to pay taxes for them. Fuck it I'd have my own country and military. Set up a benevolent constitutional monarchy in some third world nation and piss on every other rich bastard because now I have actual power and authority.
I swear if I ever become rich I hope I don't become retarded.
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salm wrote:I guess the mechanism behind rich people not retireing after being wealthy beyond good and evil is the same that encourages World of Warcraft players to keep leveling their characters instead of taking their character out and having fun. Getting rich must be quite addictive.
It's not the "getting rich" part that's addictive. It's the "feeling superior to everyone else" part that's addictive. That's why their reaction to a loss of income is a huge collapse of everything: self-esteem, marital relations, etc. Their entire sense of self-worth is bound up in their money.
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"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
salm wrote:I guess the mechanism behind rich people not retireing after being wealthy beyond good and evil is the same that encourages World of Warcraft players to keep leveling their characters instead of taking their character out and having fun. Getting rich must be quite addictive.
It's not the "getting rich" part that's addictive. It's the "feeling superior to everyone else" part that's addictive. That's why their reaction to a loss of income is a huge collapse of everything: self-esteem, marital relations, etc. Their entire sense of self-worth is bound up in their money.
I wouldn't mind the whole 'feeling superior' angle to it. I mean, if they came to their money through something other than inheritance or detestably criminal means, they should have every right to take pride in their financial accomplishments.
It's the fact that I can look at these incomes and quick-calculate that with it I could move, at least, 30 to 40 people I care about into 'sated' status from 'fighting to survive' status. Then I take a look at what they're spending it on, and get a little irked.
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WHAT KIND OF VACATIONS DO YOU NEED TO TAKE IN ORDER TO SERIOUSLY THREATEN THE FINANCES OF SOMEBODY WHO EARNS 8 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR?!
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WHAT KIND OF VACATIONS DO YOU NEED TO TAKE IN ORDER TO SERIOUSLY THREATEN THE FINANCES OF SOMEBODY WHO EARNS 8 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR?!
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A trip to New York in the finest hotels, finest foods, shopping... you could possibly hit a million after a week or two.
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WHAT KIND OF VACATIONS DO YOU NEED TO TAKE IN ORDER TO SERIOUSLY THREATEN THE FINANCES OF SOMEBODY WHO EARNS 8 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR?!
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A trip to New York in the finest hotels, finest foods, shopping... you could possibly hit a million after a week or two.
Rent a private Island, ISS (Space), underseas (Rent a sub), deluxe trip up the Alps, rent a resort or park for you and your friends.
It's wasteful, but not too hard to think of. (and that's without ludicrous shit, such as gold foil shower-taps and Don Perognon on belly dancers, thousand dollar tips, cocaine, etc')
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Hookers, cocaine, and casinos. There goes a few million in a single night.
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WHAT KIND OF VACATIONS DO YOU NEED TO TAKE IN ORDER TO SERIOUSLY THREATEN THE FINANCES OF SOMEBODY WHO EARNS 8 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR?!
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There are posh hotels in Milan and the Bahamas where the top suites go for around $30k per night. If Mrs. Rich Bitch wants to go stay at the most expensive suite at the Atlantic in the Bahamas at $30k per night, and she wants to stay there for a month, that's $900,000 right there. And of course, I'm assuming she doesn't actually do anything while there, apart from staying in her suite.
There's a whole world of absurdly overpriced goods out there, once you enter the world of the very rich. Frankly, if I were to stay in a $30k per night hotel suite, I would expect the hotel manager to lick the shit off my ass every time I sit on the toilet, so I don't have to wipe myself.
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
Darth Wong wrote:Frankly, if I were to stay in a $30k per night hotel suite, I would expect the hotel manager to lick the shit off my ass every time I sit on the toilet, so I don't have to wipe myself.
I repeated this line to my Other Half, who laughed heartily and added "AND he'd have to make yummy sounds while doing it."
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory.Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
But then why just settle for the manager? Surely the owner could do something as well?
Turns out that a five way cross over between It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, the Ali G Show, Fargo, Idiocracy and Veep is a lot less funny when you're actually living in it.
Darth Wong wrote:
There are posh hotels in Milan and the Bahamas where the top suites go for around $30k per night. If Mrs. Rich Bitch wants to go stay at the most expensive suite at the Atlantic in the Bahamas at $30k per night, and she wants to stay there for a month, that's $900,000 right there. And of course, I'm assuming she doesn't actually do anything while there, apart from staying in her suite.
There's a whole world of absurdly overpriced goods out there, once you enter the world of the very rich. Frankly, if I were to stay in a $30k per night hotel suite, I would expect the hotel manager to lick the shit off my ass every time I sit on the toilet, so I don't have to wipe myself.
I had the chance to stay at the Omni Shoreham JFK suite a few months ago and the fucker went for 10,000 a night. Mind you, I wasn't paying that (long, funny story) at all, and while it was very nice it certaintly didn't rate a 1/3 of what I make in a year.
It was really just a very nice apartment. Really, one could get close to that level of comfort at a Holiday Inn. Nonsense about status really.
Darth Wong wrote:Frankly, if I were to stay in a $30k per night hotel suite, I would expect the hotel manager to lick the shit off my ass every time I sit on the toilet, so I don't have to wipe myself.
I repeated this line to my Other Half, who laughed heartily and added "AND he'd have to make yummy sounds while doing it."
Ah yes, can't forget the yummy sounds
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
One of the arguments - of course! - "these men need to uphold their style and status". Wow, and waste the society's resources, right? Because it's his hordes of enterprise workers who made the profits that he unilaterally blows on "private jet flights" and other status-related nonsense.
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