SD.net's World OOC/Discussion thread MK IV

Fingolfin_Noldor · Post by **Fingolfin_Noldor** » 2008-06-12 11:18am

Coiler wrote:Shep, are you interested in stimulating your country's damaged economy by selling me some Blackbeards?

He doesn't even have control over his own country, let alone his factories.

Coiler · Post by **Coiler** » 2008-06-12 11:22am

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: He doesn't even have control over his own country, let alone his factories.

Darn.

While we're on the topic of arms purchases, Coilerburg is about to make its final arms purchase of the year.

It is interested in purchasing three Byzantium surplus Halifaxes, and also needs the following:

SAMs
Landing craft of any sort
Self-propelled artillery pieces.

Is the Byzantine Empire able to meet these demands?

Coilerburg is also interested in purchasing five Shroomanian giant railway guns.

Grand Moff Yenchin · Post by **Grand Moff Yenchin** » 2008-06-12 11:23am

Beowulf wrote:What's all this from the MESS members about chipping in individually for FASTA? We have an agency for this already: MESS Space Agency. It'll partner with the FUN nations for the space missions. Probably end up paying about half the cost of the missions. The MSA won't be pitching in to help with ground construction, however.

The money I spent will go through MSA as well. It's a FUN-MESS joint project, there should be some kind of "window" on both sides anyway.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2008-06-12 11:25am

Hughes Kaiser makes lots of SAMS and AMRAAMS

as for landing craft Norsemotors (I know an automobile company) Makes Templar II GEVs which are small unit transports and amphibius. Not to mention their Wing mounted Hardpoints can carry stingers.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2008-06-12 11:30am

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:He doesn't even have control over his own country, let alone his factories.

I'm sorry, but are you suggesting Anacostia is an economic titan? Cause that's where Garner has holed up.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2008-06-12 11:35am

Sea Dragon is a little... dated concept; the reliability of the design of such a large single-engine rocket under ascent stress is also dubious. The engine's performance is questionable.

However, it's useful for super-large payloads that cannot be delivered by any other means, indeed.

Hmm... we need to still consider the UR-700M (750 tons LEO) design.

P.S. PeZook, your MiGs should be ready by now, just remind me how many I still owe. I'll deliver them together with the remaining Tu-160 craft for Byzantium.

Decue · Post by **Decue** » 2008-06-12 11:39am

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Well, a lot of small countries can contribute in a lot of ways. New Gottland could make a space-edible version of those fish biscuits of theirs

Heh, maybe they can invent a non-crumbling biscuit or even a liquid biscuit for space use.

Fingolfin_Noldor · Post by **Fingolfin_Noldor** » 2008-06-12 11:47am

MKSheppard wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:He doesn't even have control over his own country, let alone his factories.
I'm sorry, but are you suggesting Anacostia is an economic titan? Cause that's where Garner has holed up.

Ok, I lost track.

Who's winning?

Fingolfin_Noldor · Post by **Fingolfin_Noldor** » 2008-06-12 11:48am

Coiler wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: He doesn't even have control over his own country, let alone his factories.
Darn.

While we're on the topic of arms purchases, Coilerburg is about to make its final arms purchase of the year.

It is interested in purchasing three Byzantium surplus Halifaxes, and also needs the following:

SAMs
Landing craft of any sort
Self-propelled artillery pieces.

Is the Byzantine Empire able to meet these demands?

Coilerburg is also interested in purchasing five Shroomanian giant railway guns.

Well, I do have landing craft of the French variety, SAMs and self-propelled (PzH-2000), and then Halifaxes...

But how the heck are you going to pay for those?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2008-06-12 11:54am

BTW howexactly did Coilerburg get all of the Refugees, since the BR announced that they were willing to accept any refugees beforehand, and were physically CLOSER, and didn't have a reputation for killing citizens of Shepnukistan in acts of "Piracy"?

Post by **Beowulf** » 2008-06-12 11:57am

Stas Bush wrote:Sea Dragon is a little... dated concept; the reliability of the design of such a large single-engine rocket under ascent stress is also dubious. The engine's performance is questionable.

However, it's useful for super-large payloads that cannot be delivered by any other means, indeed.

Hmm... we need to still consider the UR-700M (750 tons LEO) design.

Sea Dragon is large, but it makes up for that fact by being built to much stronger and simpler standards than most aerospace designs. The walls of the rocket are 8mm high strength stainless steel, for example. The reduction in the number of engines also increases the reliability of the rocket as a whole. UR-700M has 50 some different engines. Depending on exactly how over-engined the rocket is, failure of only one engine could doom the mission, and it's significantly more probably the an engine could fail.

Post by **Coyote** » 2008-06-12 12:01pm

Coiler did make a statement that refugees were going everywhere, and in particular, Canissian shores because, of all, we're the closest. We've made no statement about refugees one way or the other, but we are quietly picking them up and housing them safely.

I shall IC post that, in fact...

Coiler · Post by **Coiler** » 2008-06-12 12:50pm

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: But how the heck are you going to pay for those?

True enough, I suppose. I guess they'll have to wait.

DarthShady · Post by **DarthShady** » 2008-06-12 01:03pm

Coiler wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: But how the heck are you going to pay for those?
True enough, I suppose. I guess they'll have to wait.

Dude your making the same mistakes a lot of us smaller guys were making at the beginning. Overspending is a bitch.

Bear, how much do your SAMS cost? I am looking to buy some soon.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2008-06-12 01:19pm

Wait. Since the MESS has their own separate space agency working with FASTA rather than working in FASTA (so it's FASTA-Mess Space Agency/MSA), that means the F in FASTA can stand for Fungal!

The Yosemite Bear wrote:oh, and the LOGO for FASTA reminds me of Gallactica, so should FASTA develop any subsidiatiries how about one name FRAK

Fungal Research on Advanced Kinetics!

(railguns)

Fucking A, man. I feel like I'm some sort of living, breathing internet acronym maker!

@ Darth Shady:

That's awesome.

"Watch out for overspending."

"I want moar guns."

But don't worry, mang. The FUN's Joint Air and Sea Defense plan will give nations the defensive systems they need.

Your nation is surrounded by decent guys like PeZook and Vanas, so you won't have much reason to worry about.

However, dudes sitting right next to Bad Places... well, that's where our Runaway Defense Budget is going into.

We seriously need to build A LOT of highways that can be used as runways. So when World War 1 breaks out, our combined air forces can land anywhere and everywhere - forming a dispersed defense grid.

I guess we also need to start stockpiling on naval supplies in case if our ships and subs need to scatter. Damn, I better start selling nuclear engines!

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2008-06-12 02:40pm

I wonder why Duchies have such a hard-on for landing craft?

I mean, you're not making a forced landing anywhere without a good number of varied landing craft and air superiority. Strategic lift for fighting brushfires and such is better done with airplanes and ekranoplans, with bigger boys punching holes in people's defences.

Buying one or two LSTs is pointless, IMHO. Complete waste of money - you can have a dozen jet fighters for the same cash.

Oh, and Stas: I ordered 12 Mig-29s with modern avionics.

I will probably need missiles for them, too

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2008-06-12 02:44pm

Coyote, you're so sly! First you go ponder the meaning of life with Q, and now you've got secret agent men playing hanky panky with sexy chicks!

Post by **RogueIce** » 2008-06-12 05:00pm

Actually, screw that. FASTA can be the inter-alliance one.

Shroom, you'll just have to invent a new crazy name for the FUN space program. The symbology in the FASTA logo is too good not to be used for the FUN/MESS thing.

Also, Bearbeards? C'mon Shroom! Blackbear missiles.

Post by **Coyote** » 2008-06-12 05:28pm

Yeah! Blackbear, brownbear, grizzly, kodiak, polar... there's lots of bear motifs!

Post by **Coyote** » 2008-06-12 05:40pm

BTW I'll be posting the Olympic medals tomorrow!

There'll be mens & womens for the following events:

Archery
Baseball
Beach Volleyball
Biathalon
Bicycling
Boxing
Cross-Country
Gymanstics
Judo
Marathon
Soccer/Footbal
Swimming
Track & Field (jevelin, shot-put, pole vault, 100-m dash)
Wrestling
Weightlifting

--did I forget any events?

Post by **Coyote** » 2008-06-12 05:45pm

Hey, ISCA members, remember that Canissia, after I did th emath on my shipbuilding, has about 500,000 some-odd DWTs of build capacity available for civilian builds.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2008-06-12 05:53pm

Coyote wrote:Hey, ISCA members, remember that Canissia, after I did th emath on my shipbuilding, has about 500,000 some-odd DWTs of build capacity available for civilian builds.

Which is apparently being used for the UKB. Unless you have an additional 500 thous/DWT for civvie use than what's currently up there.

In which case, you can get me my 30 FCS variants.

TimothyC · Post by **TimothyC** » 2008-06-12 08:36pm

PeZook wrote:I wonder why Duchies have such a hard-on for landing craft?

I mean, you're not making a forced landing anywhere without a good number of varied landing craft and air superiority. Strategic lift for fighting brushfires and such is better done with airplanes and ekranoplans, with bigger boys punching holes in people's defences.

.

While not a Duchy, I was looking at an LHD as a means of evacing my citizens from conflict zones (and doing forced landings to remove them at the same time).

Raj Ahten · Post by **Raj Ahten** » 2008-06-12 08:43pm

There should also be a rifle and/or a pistol shooting competition.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2008-06-12 08:52pm

Raj Ahten wrote:There should also be a rifle and/or a pistol shooting competition.

There is the biathlon, but that's obviously not the only shooting event possible.