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The fine folks at the doctor who restoration team do great work. Basically they restore episodes, digitally remaster them, sometimes manually editing out the lines from older episodes, sometimes even adding CGI to replace some of the old props (allowing us to view both versions). They even restored a Patrick Troughton story "The invasion". Pretty good when you consider they are missing two episodes, so they had to fill it up with animation while synching it to the audio.

According to their website next up for restoration include "K9 tales" a collection of "The invisible enemy" and "K9 and company", "The brain of morbius" and "Trial of a Time lord".

I am going to get all except trial of a TL. I am sure I have it taped from ABC tv and I want to watch it first before I think about getting it, as Colin Baker scripts frankly sucked most of the time, dooming the actor to fail. Personally my favourire Colin Baker story is "Time lash", and thats a guilty pleasure as I am under no illusion it would be counted as a classic.

I am interested as which Doctor Who stories from the classic series most people would want to see restored (ie you want to get the DVD when it comes out).

One thing I would really like to see is one Patrick Troughton story where the episodes are missing but audio is available and fill it with animation. One of the reasons is I haven't seen these stories (I mean the episodes that haven't been lost). I would love to see "Ice warriors", "The abominable snowman" or its sequel "The web of fear" and "the Faceless ones"(although I think even the audio has been lost). We can skip "fury of the deep" even though I haven't seen it, as it consisted of Debra Watling as she put it screaming herself off the show. At least she literally killed the monster with her screams.

The other thing I would like to see is more Jon Pertwee stories, namely the Peladon ones "Curse of peladon" and "Monster of peladon". A piece of trivia, David Troughton (son of the 2nd doctor) was in "The curse of peladon" as the king who fancied Katy Manning's Jo Grant. He also starred in the latest episode of Doctor Who "Midnight" as the professor.

And of course, more Tom Baker stories, namely "The android invasion", but come on, you know they are going to restore more Tom Baker stories anyway. :lol: In any event, most of my favourite Tom Baker stories "Androids of Tara", "Power of Kroll", "Robots of Death", "The Sontaron experiment", "City of Death", "horror of Fang Rock", "Planet of evil" etc have been restored already.

So what are everyone's preferences for restoration.
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Tenth Planet. In the style of Invasion.
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The War Games. I want to see Troughton's last serial and more of Wendy Padbury's lovely figure. :) The serials in which Roger Delgado's Master have not been made to DVD are a must on my list especially Terror of the Autons.

Revenge of the Cybermen from Baker's era would be fantastic as well. I didn't like the new head they did in Earthshock (as well as the voices).
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IIRC, "The War Games" is actually being prepared for a future release.

I'm going to be overlooking stories which are complete and otherwise just need cleanup work done for release (although I'd definitely be interested in a Peladon set: "The Monster of Peladon" was the first Doctor Who story I ever saw in full) since for most of them it'll just be a matter of time. They really do need to pick up the pace with Third Doctor stories, though.

It'd be great if they continued the "reconstruction of missing episodes with animation" thing done for "The Invasion," despite apparently not being profitable enough of an experiment to proceed further.

"The Tenth Planet" would definitely be a given, since it's only missing the last episode, and maybe they could present it with the option of viewing the animated fourth episode with surviving footage of the regeneration scene, like they already do with the optional effects for some story releases. "The Ice Warriors" is another one I'd really like to see done, particularly since it's only missing two episodes like "The Invasion," so it wouldn't really be that much more work.

By the way Friendly Guy, the audio for every single missing Doctor Who episode still survives, so "The Faceless Ones" wouldn't be impossible to reconstruct.

What I'd really like to see undergo animation reconstruction would be "Marco Polo" and "The Evil of the Daleks," even though it'd be an absolutely tremendous amount of work, since all six episodes of the former are lost (and there aren't any telesnaps for a couple of them I think) and only one of seven survive for the latter.

And I know it's difficult and expensive, but it'd also be nice if the Restoration Team got around to finish colorizing "The Ambassadors of Death" and "Planet of the Daleks," although I honestly wouldn't mind at all if it was released with some episodes still in B&W.
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Spanky The Dolphin wrote:What I'd really like to see undergo animation reconstruction would be "Marco Polo" and "The Evil of the Daleks," even though it'd be an absolutely tremendous amount of work, since all six episodes of the former are lost (and there aren't any telesnaps for a couple of them I think) and only one of seven survive for the latter.
I'd be all over that action. And, you know, The Dalek's Master Plan.
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Dudes, War Games and DMP are hopelessly stretched disasters. War Games is just hours and hours of padding, and it's terrible to watch in one sitting. Ugh.

Tenth Planet is way better. And it lets me say hurtful things about unimaginative writers. 'Oh yeah, and now they're allergic to gold you fucking idiots'. Dumbasses.
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Stark wrote:Tenth Planet is way better. And it lets me say hurtful things about unimaginative writers. 'Oh yeah, and now they're allergic to gold you fucking idiots'. Dumbasses.
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It's just a shame that it went from semi-sensible 'holy fuck radioactive rods mess them up' to 'oh yeah their massive respirators are chokeable' and 'woo we melted their shitz with solvents' right down to absurity like 'the planet of gold' with GLITTER GUNS and throwing a coin at a cyberman to make them collapse by contact (as you say).

I think it's tragic and retarded that people even ASK if Cybus cybermen are vulnerable to gold. They don't even HAVE massive respirators like Moonbase-era cybermen! :lol:
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As has been said, the audio for every episode does still exist - you can find the transcripts here

I would also be interested to see reconstructions of the missing episodes. Ice Warriors, the two Yeti stories and Tenth Planet have been mentioned. I'd also like to see The Celestial Toymaker and The Power of the Daleks (mostly to see how they handled the aftermath of his first regeneration).
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Stark wrote:Dudes, War Games and DMP are hopelessly stretched disasters. War Games is just hours and hours of padding, and it's terrible to watch in one sitting. Ugh.
I've read that in Amazon reviews as well but since I mainly want to see it for the regeneration scene as PotD is gone, I'll just fast forward when I want to.
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There isn't really a regeneration scene at the end of "The War Games." The last episode just concludes with the Second Doctor shrinking and spinning away into darkness...

...Then six months later at the beginning of the first episode of "Spearhead From Space," the Third Doctor stumbles out of the rematerialized TARDIS.

That's pretty much the extent of the Second-Third regeneration.
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Greetings, all:

The Dr. Who episodes that I hope are restored are as follows:

1) The Invasion of Time

2) The Genesis of The Daleks

3) The Hand of Fear

4) The Face of Evil (Leela's first appearance)

5) The Deadly Assassin

6) the Tom Baker story arc dealing with the glowing skull and all those nasty Fendahl creatures (damned if I can remember the title, after all it has been more that 30 years since I saw it on PBS)

7) The Talons of Wen Chiang

your thoughts?


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Most of the above are already out on DVD.
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Michael Garrity wrote:Greetings, all:

The Dr. Who episodes that I hope are restored are as follows:

1) The Invasion of Time

2) The Genesis of The Daleks

3) The Hand of Fear

4) The Face of Evil (Leela's first appearance)

5) The Deadly Assassin

6) the Tom Baker story arc dealing with the glowing skull and all those nasty Fendahl creatures (damned if I can remember the title, after all it has been more that 30 years since I saw it on PBS)

7) The Talons of Wen Chiang

your thoughts?


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1) has been restored and is to be released in the next month or so
2) Has been restored already (I got the dvd 2 years back)
3) Has been restored
4) and 5) haven't. Good choices, I personally want the face of evil
6) You are refering to Image of the Fendahl, and that hasn't been restored yet
7) Been restored.

It just occured to me that some of these may not be available to Americans, although they are to British and Aussie citizens. A good place to check is amazon, or if you have a multiple zone dvd player get foreign versions. Ebay is a good place to start.

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Of those that are out in the UK, "The Invasion of Time" hasn't been released yet in the US, but it's scheduled for September. Doctor Who DVDs in the US are usually delayed by several months compared to those scheduled in the UK.
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