Imagine that, an honest bank. Or maybe it's because they're Scottish.RBS issues global stock and credit crash alert
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, International Business Editor
Last Updated: 12:19am BST 19/06/2008
The Royal Bank of Scotland has advised clients to brace for a full-fledged crash in global stock and credit markets over the next three months as inflation paralyses the major central banks.
"A very nasty period is soon to be upon us - be prepared," said Bob Janjuah, the bank's credit strategist.
A report by the bank's research team warns that the S&P 500 index of Wall Street equities is likely to fall by more than 300 points to around 1050 by September as "all the chickens come home to roost" from the excesses of the global boom, with contagion spreading across Europe and emerging markets.
Such a slide on world bourses would amount to one of the worst bear markets over the last century.
RBS said the iTraxx index of high-grade corporate bonds could soar to 130/150 while the "Crossover" index of lower grade corporate bonds could reach 650/700 in a renewed bout of panic on the debt markets.
"I do not think I can be much blunter. If you have to be in credit, focus on quality, short durations, non-cyclical defensive names.
"Cash is the key safe haven. This is about not losing your money, and not losing your job," said Mr Janjuah, who became a City star after his grim warnings last year about the credit crisis proved all too accurate.
RBS expects Wall Street to rally a little further into early July before short-lived momentum from America's fiscal boost begins to fizzle out, and the delayed effects of the oil spike inflict their damage.
"Globalisation was always going to risk putting G7 bankers into a dangerous corner at some point. We have got to that point," he said.
US Federal Reserve and the European Central Bank both face a Hobson's choice as workers start to lose their jobs in earnest and lenders cut off credit.
The authorities cannot respond with easy money because oil and food costs continue to push headline inflation to levels that are unsettling the markets. "The ugly spoiler is that we may need to see much lower global growth in order to get lower inflation," he said.
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"The Fed is in panic mode. The massive credibility chasms down which the Fed and maybe even the ECB will plummet when they fail to hike rates in the face of higher inflation will combine to give us a big sell-off in risky assets," he said.
Kit Jukes, RBS's head of debt markets, said Europe would not be immune. "Economic weakness is spreading and the latest data on consumer demand and confidence are dire. The ECB is hell-bent on raising rates.
"The political fall-out could be substantial as finance ministers from the weaker economies rail at the ECB. Wider spreads between the German Bunds and peripheral markets seem assured," he said.
Ultimately, the bank expects the oil price spike to subside as the more powerful force of debt deflation takes hold next year.
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Is he talking about some more-nuanced concept of economics, or did he basically just tell people to turn everything into cash and stuff it under the mattress?"Cash is the key safe haven. This is about not losing your money, and not losing your job,"
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I think he was talking to people in the financial world. Like: THis how you handle your clients' money at the moment to keep your job in 3 months.Uraniun235 wrote:Is he talking about some more-nuanced concept of economics, or did he basically just tell people to turn everything into cash and stuff it under the mattress?"Cash is the key safe haven. This is about not losing your money, and not losing your job,"
I had a Bill Maher quote here. But fuck him for his white privelegy "joke".
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Naw, I read it as "convert to cash, stuff cash in mattress", too.
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I thought he meant to only posses real money in physical form or in valid stocks and bonds or such, and not vague things like debt or derivatives and so on.Uraniun235 wrote:Is he talking about some more-nuanced concept of economics, or did he basically just tell people to turn everything into cash and stuff it under the mattress?"Cash is the key safe haven. This is about not losing your money, and not losing your job,"
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Basically, it's time to get out of the equities market unless you want to daytrade since the volatility is going insane and there's a good chance of a big crash wiping out your investments. So he advises getting into cash and keeping it somewhere safe, whether it's in the form of T-bills, money in a bank which you know won't go under, or stuffing it into a pillowcase if you have to.Uraniun235 wrote:Is he talking about some more-nuanced concept of economics, or did he basically just tell people to turn everything into cash and stuff it under the mattress?


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At least it isn't "convert to canned food, gas and ammo".Broomstick wrote:Naw, I read it as "convert to cash, stuff cash in mattress", too.
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I'm stocking up on that, too.
Well, the canned and dry goods and the gas... ammo's sort of useless until I get a gun.
Well, the canned and dry goods and the gas... ammo's sort of useless until I get a gun.

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