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MIT Students Develop Revolutionary Solar Dish That is Hot Enough to Melt Steel

New solar dish from MIT concentrates sunlight intensely enough to melt steel


The solar industry is booming. With waves of investment and grants, the solar power industry is for the first time becoming a serious business. New power plants will soon be pumping power out to consumers, while other firms market to sell panels directly to the consumer, providing them with a more direct means of experiencing solar energy.

There are many forms of solar power technology. Today the most dominant is photo-voltaics, which comprise the traditional solar panels that come to mind when one thinks of solar power. However, there are other promising ways of capturing the sun's energy that are merely less developed.

Among these is a parabolic collector. A parabolic collector consists of an array of mirrors focused on a singular point, which they heat to a high temperature. By placing water or another liquid at the collector, energy can be stored in the form of a phase transformation, and later harvested through a turbine generator.

However, parabolic collectors are still a relatively new field of research. Their true potential remains relatively unknown. A glimpse of it was provided by a research team at MIT, which developed a new parabolic collector design, which will blow away current solar power designs in terms of efficiency.

The MIT team believes that their lightweight, inexpensive device holds the promise of revolutionizing the power industry and providing solar power to even remote regions.

The key piece is the 12-foot dish, which the team assembled in several weeks. The design is exceedingly simple and inexpensive. The frame is composed of aluminum tubing and mirrors are attached to it.

The results are staggering -- the completed mirror focuses enough solar energy at its focal point to melt solid steel. The energy of typical sunlight is concentrated by a factor of 1,000. This was showcased during a demonstration, in which a team member held up a board, which instantly and violently combusted, when brought within range of the focal point.

By directing the dish at a more practical target -- water piped through black tubing -- steam can be flash created, offering instant means of producing energy or providing heating.


Spencer Ahrens, who just received his master's in mechanical engineering from MIT, was among the designers of the dish. He and his fellow team members are serious about marketing it, and leveraging its cheap cost and easy production. They have founded a company named RawSolar. They say their design is easily mass producible and that they hope to be pumping out 1,000 of dishes in years to come.

The new dishes would return their costs in a mere couple years, unlike standard photo-voltaic installations which can take 10 years or more to return their costs. This improvement is critical to providing practical economic justification for adoption.


The dish is based partly on components invented and patented by inventor Doug Wood. He was so pleased with the team's work that he signed over rights to the components to the team. He elates, "This is actually the most efficient solar collector in existence, and it was just completed. They really have simplified this and made it user-friendly, so anybody can build it."

Wood says one of the keys to the success of the project is the smaller size. Dishes are affected by the same weight dynamics that effect living organisms. Much as large living organisms would need an inordinate amount of weight support and thus are not favored, larger dish designs fall short in that they require an exponentially greater amount of infrastructure. For example, a dish the size of the RawSolar team's design costs only a third of what a larger dish would cost.

MIT Sloan School of Management lecturer David Pelly gave a guiding hand to the students and thinks the economic upsides of the technology are impressive. He states, "I've looked for years at a variety of solar approaches, and this is the cheapest I've seen. And the key thing in scaling it globally is that all of the materials are inexpensive and accessible anywhere in the world. I've looked all over for solar technology that could scale without subsidies. Almost nothing I've looked at has that potential. This does."

The ability to build unsubsidized, profitable, and easy to manufacture solar power will truly be something amazing. This should be an exciting technology to follow as it is marketed and further developed.


Besides Ahrens, the other students primarily working on the project were Micah Sze (Sloan MBA '08), UC Berkeley graduate and Broad Institute engineer Eva Markiewicz, Olin College student Matt Ritter and MIT materials science student Anna Bershteyn.
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I made one of those for a science fair project. It was very crude, very cumbersome, and not very effective. I had fun making it though. This thing done by the MIT students is just a natural growth of the field, I'm more impressed by the fact that it's small and cheap, than by what it does. There is a solar furnace, in Europe I think, that can get temperatures to rival the surface of the sun. Naturally, it's fucking huge.

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Easy to manufacture, abundant materials with which to do so, inexpensive...sounds very promising.
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Archimedes did it first.
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However, parabolic collectors are still a relatively new field of research. Their true potential remains relatively unknown.
Progress in making things inexpensive is always welcome, but that the field really neglected parabolic collectors until now is very surprising. That parabolas focus a pencil of parallel rays at, well, their focus is such a basic result of elementary geometry that's it's been known for over a millennium (and probably more than two, although I'd rather not search through Euclid to see if it's in there).
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Let's face it, at least one of these students is going to get high and spend an hour throwing shit into the beam o' doom. Pencils, cups, squirrels, a turkey... The possibilities are endless, and if it can somehow cook the turkey without burning it, then all the better!
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How much power does this generate?

I can't see it anywhere in the article...
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Zac Naloen wrote:How much power does this generate?

I can't see it anywhere in the article...
Well the surface area looks to be about 4m^2 from the size of the guy next to it, so on a very sunny day an absolute upper limit of about 6kW (if the average intensity of solar radiation at earth orbital radius is 1.4kW/m^2).
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So if you have a big structure like above your looking at quite significant output?
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Zac Naloen wrote:So if you have a big structure like above your looking at quite significant output?
Not quite output. The power the parabolic reflector focuses on its focus is going to be equal to the power flux of the sunlight coming into it multiplied by the area of the reflector. So naturally, the larger the structure, the higher the power it can make. If you want to compare it to, say, a nuclear reactor, you'd have to crunch the numbers.
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Maybe the Middle East can export sunlight once their oil is gone
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wautd wrote:Maybe the Middle East can export sunlight once their oil is gone
Actually, Africa has beaten them to it, with the help of some European powers.

Trans-Mediterranean Renewable Energy Project

Heard some reports on it recently on BBC. Sounds like massed solar concentration plants in North Africa are going to be all the rage soon.
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loomer wrote:Let's face it, at least one of these students is going to get high and spend an hour throwing shit into the beam o' doom. Pencils, cups, squirrels, a turkey... The possibilities are endless, and if it can somehow cook the turkey without burning it, then all the better!
Already been done.

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Every time I read 'students build death ray for solar power,' I wonder, what's wrong with having a Death Ray, for the sake of having a Death Ray...?
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I think it's like the thing with the Germans that built an environmentally-friendly bomb.
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Heh, talking to a guy I know at MIT, he says that the students killed time by using this thing to burn pennies.
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Kanastrous wrote:Every time I read 'students build death ray for solar power,' I wonder, what's wrong with having a Death Ray, for the sake of having a Death Ray...?
Exactly. It's an experimental project with a practical potential, yet hints deliciously of Mad Science™.

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How efficient are these things compared to solar panels? My gut feeling is that solar panels are less efficient, but that's based on absolutely nothing but a hunch.
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NoXion wrote:How efficient are these things compared to solar panels? My gut feeling is that solar panels are less efficient, but that's based on absolutely nothing but a hunch.
It probably depends on the mechanism by which you turn the heat at the focus into electricity.
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NoXion wrote:How efficient are these things compared to solar panels? My gut feeling is that solar panels are less efficient, but that's based on absolutely nothing but a hunch.
It probably depends on the mechanism by which you turn the heat at the focus into electricity.
I would be interested in knowing how much of the sunlight is captured...putting it to work introduces obvious inefficiencies, but how much energy is hitting the surface area of the panel and how much is concentrated at the focal point?
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NoXion wrote:How efficient are these things compared to solar panels? My gut feeling is that solar panels are less efficient, but that's based on absolutely nothing but a hunch.
It probably depends on the mechanism by which you turn the heat at the focus into electricity.
I would be interested in knowing how much of the sunlight is captured...putting it to work introduces obvious inefficiencies, but how much energy is hitting the surface area of the panel and how much is concentrated at the focal point?
If you're simply interested in knowing how much energy the panel is exposed to, remember that solar panels are generally fixed, while the parabolic mirror doesn't really do much unless it's more or less pointed straight at the sun. The amount of light hitting the solar panel depends on the angle between the panel and the sun -- specifically, P = IAsin(θ), where I is the intensity of sunlight at the ground, A is the area of the panel, and θ is the angle of the sun (note that this value for P is the upper limit for the amount of electricity you can get out of the solar panel). Meanwhile, the amount of power focused at the focus is given by P = IC, where C is the cross-sectional area of the mirror. The area depends on how the mirror is made; it's easy for a satellite dish-shaped mirror, but more difficult for something like Solar Two.
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Wouldn't an efficient layout be sort of like a bowstring equatorial sundial, adjustable for elevation to track the sun seasonally?
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Surlethe wrote:
NoXion wrote:How efficient are these things compared to solar panels? My gut feeling is that solar panels are less efficient, but that's based on absolutely nothing but a hunch.
It probably depends on the mechanism by which you turn the heat at the focus into electricity.
IIRC solar-stirling systems have held the record for the most efficient solar-to-grid conversion for quite a while. The current record is 31.25%.
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