Discussion and Debate

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-01-24 09:12am

What are your reasons behind discussion and debate? Here are the reasons that I participate in a debate/discussion:

1) Increase the knowledge of myself and others
2) Spread and gain new ideas
3) Learn the 'other side' of the story
4) Learn more about others and myself

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-24 09:38am

NF_Utvol wrote:What are your reasons behind discussion and debate? Here are the reasons that I participate in a debate/discussion:

1) Increase the knowledge of myself and others
2) Spread and gain new ideas
3) Learn the 'other side' of the story
4) Learn more about others and myself

My reasons:

1) Combat common falsehoods/misconceptions/stupidities
2) Help others do the same by providing them with ideas/info
3) Get new ideas for additions/corrections/improvements to my site

The reasons for my two websites (the creationism one and this one) are similar in that regard, although one is obviously a "real-life" subject while the other is not.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-01-24 10:11am

I'd add "Have fun!" to that list.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-01-24 10:24am

Sir Sirius wrote:I'd add "Have fun!" to that list.

Agreed. Frankly, I debate because it's fun. It requires me to use my mind more than most things in RL, but it's a safe and comfortable way of having arguments over things that are really unimportant in terms of the real world.

SWPIGWANG · Post by **SWPIGWANG** » 2003-01-24 10:11pm

because knowledge allows room for imagination....

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2003-01-25 12:56am

It's a hell of a lot of fun. Especially in the early days, everyone would one-up the other by bringing another piece of evidence to the table.

It also has served over the years to point out the silly things in mainstream sci-fi, and improves our own stories as a result!

Post by **AdmiralKanos** » 2003-01-25 01:06am

Mind you, it's more fun when the person you're arguing with actually tries to debate, instead of just repeating himself ad nauseum. This is the problem with people like Darkstar, most creationists, etc.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Post by **Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman** » 2003-01-25 02:17am

Well, to increase my knowledge and expand my perspective, especially in sci-fi subjects like SW and ST.

But ultimately, for the FUN of it! That's why I never really care about post count or such... (sounds like a lame excuse? Guilty as charge.)

After all, this is just a hobby. Besides, sometimes lurking could be as fun as participating itself.

ali-sama · Post by **ali-sama** » 2003-01-25 04:33am

NF_Utvol wrote:What are your reasons behind discussion and debate? Here are the reasons that I participate in a debate/discussion:

1) Increase the knowledge of myself and others
2) Spread and gain new ideas
3) Learn the 'other side' of the story
4) Learn more about others and myself

peoepl shoudl come up with their own ideas and figures isntead of repeating the same thign over and over.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-01-25 05:08am

Take your own advice then, the idea of someone (especially pathetic n00bz)coming to SDNet and trolling like you live under a bridge.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-01-25 05:54am

Darth Fanboy wrote:Take your own advice then, the idea of someone (especially pathetic n00bz)coming to SDNet and trolling like you live under a bridge.

Ali's hardly a newbie. Take a look at his join date. Then be aware he's also an ASVS regular.

ali-sama · Post by **ali-sama** » 2003-01-25 06:31am

Dalton wrote:
Darth Fanboy wrote:Take your own advice then, the idea of someone (especially pathetic n00bz)coming to SDNet and trolling like you live under a bridge.
Ali's hardly a newbie. Take a look at his join date. Then be aware he's also an ASVS regular.

thanks. i have been busy with work. I finsihed aorudn 218 spiderman pages last week. almsot killed me there. also got to work on sowm witch blade.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-01-25 11:19am

The first and primary reason I take part in these debates is because its fun. Number two and three would have to be because its an intelectual excercise and I learn things about science.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-01-25 12:08pm

I like debating. I always have been a warsie and i was a fan of Star Trek untill Voyager. The main reason i joined here was that i used to read Wongs hate Mail page and laugh my ass off, though even i would admit he can come off kinda arrogant. And i remember thinking i wanted to be involved in the same kinda debate, though not so long winded.

ali-sama · Post by **ali-sama** » 2003-01-25 10:31pm

Darth Pounder wrote:I like debating. I always have been a warsie and i was a fan of Star Trek untill Voyager. The main reason i joined here was that i used to read Wongs hate Mail page and laugh my ass off, though even i would admit he can come off kinda arrogant. And i remember thinking i wanted to be involved in the same kinda debate, though not so long winded.

i thought the whoel"wong is wrong" debate was hillariouse. lol

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-01-25 10:32pm

ali-sama wrote:
Darth Pounder wrote:I like debating. I always have been a warsie and i was a fan of Star Trek untill Voyager. The main reason i joined here was that i used to read Wongs hate Mail page and laugh my ass off, though even i would admit he can come off kinda arrogant. And i remember thinking i wanted to be involved in the same kinda debate, though not so long winded.
i thought the whoel"wong is wrong" debate was hillariouse. lol

ASVS created that title, not SB.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-01-25 10:35pm

I've always enjoyed debate. I took a couple courses in high school. Managed to convince people of things that they really should have known better about (managed to argue a bunch of middle-class Americans into agreeing that socialism is superior to capitalism). Now I'm in the Student Government at college and quite frankly I'm enjoying that too, even if I'm usually outvoted (I don't agree with big government...unfortunately, most of my compatriots apparently do). It's just a fun thing for me, and I like to get my own misperceptions corrected (though the burn marks do take a while to wear off

).

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2003-01-26 01:25am

I debate because I... like debate. The fact that it's (generally) harmless just adds to it. It's a nifty little hobby of mine.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-01-26 03:50am

Alyeska wrote:
ali-sama wrote:i thought the whoel"wong is wrong" debate was hillariouse. lol
ASVS created that title, not SB.

Jumping the gun a bit there, Alyeska.

ali-sama · Post by **ali-sama** » 2003-01-26 06:13am

Alyeska wrote:
ali-sama wrote:
Darth Pounder wrote:I like debating. I always have been a warsie and i was a fan of Star Trek untill Voyager. The main reason i joined here was that i used to read Wongs hate Mail page and laugh my ass off, though even i would admit he can come off kinda arrogant. And i remember thinking i wanted to be involved in the same kinda debate, though not so long winded.
i thought the whoel"wong is wrong" debate was hillariouse. lol
ASVS created that title, not SB.

when did I mention sb???

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-01-26 10:10am

ali-sama wrote:
Alyeska wrote:
ali-sama wrote: i thought the whoel"wong is wrong" debate was hillariouse. lol
ASVS created that title, not SB.
when did I mention sb???

"Wong is Wrong"

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2003-01-26 12:22pm

Alyeska wrote:
ali-sama wrote:
Alyeska wrote: ASVS created that title, not SB.
when did I mention sb???
"Wong is Wrong"

Exactly he never mentioned SB, he just said the "wong is wrong" debate was hilarious.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-01-26 12:40pm

CmdrWilkens wrote:
Alyeska wrote:
ali-sama wrote: when did I mention sb???
"Wong is Wrong"
Exactly he never mentioned SB, he just said the "wong is wrong" debate was hilarious.

And it wasn't a debate.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-01-26 01:56pm

Alyeska wrote:
CmdrWilkens wrote:
Alyeska wrote: "Wong is Wrong"
Exactly he never mentioned SB, he just said the "wong is wrong" debate was hilarious.
And it wasn't a debate.

Claims were made(SB group)
Counters were presented(Mike)
Counter-counters were presented(Some of the SB group after).

That's a debate.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-01-26 02:06pm

SirNitram wrote:
Alyeska wrote:
CmdrWilkens wrote: Exactly he never mentioned SB, he just said the "wong is wrong" debate was hilarious.
And it wasn't a debate.
Claims were made(SB group)
Counters were presented(Mike)
Counter-counters were presented(Some of the SB group after).

That's a debate.

There were no counter-counters. We wrote up the essay, someone copied it and sent it to Mike, Mike responded, end of discussion. Nothing else happened after that.

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