Excuse me if it takes a bit to answer all of your responses...
Master of Ossus wrote:
Oh, please. How is "allow capital punishment for child rapists" a "Kafka-like," "painfully easy to exploit or corrupt" law? Moreover, I don't have a problem with killing everyone we convict under murder with special circumstances laws, and the law that is at issue in this case is one that pertains to child rape, where only some child rapists are eligible for the death penalty. But go on, gloss over these little details.
These arent little details, Ossus.
What you're suggesting is a system where people can be convicted on a crime--which, yes, they may be innocent of--and then executed for it. This is the root problem with the Death Penalty: it's one way.
Again, under this law, several people who were later equitted of their alleged crimes, after being proven innocent years or decades later, would be dead now. Waht do you tell their families..."Oh sorry. But hey, kids are safe yeah?"
More so...aftre incidents like the Duke "Rape" Case, where these guys were almost convicted on a
pure, outright lie i think it's obvious how a few shitty DAs and some angry "victims" may fuck up someone's life. There have been too many cases like that already to add something as barbaric as the death penalty too it.
And the fact that no one--not ONE person has been falsely executed in the US since the death penalty was reinstituted doesn't bother you, at all?
No it doesnt. My main problem with the whole thing is not merely that, but the ethical knee-jerking that leads to the execution in the first place. It's almost completely arbitrary and when added to the distinct possibility of false convinction--and thus, needless execution--it becomes plainly obvious that the whole idea is flawed at it's heart. At the core of the death penalty is a need for pure, senseless revenge...nothing more. Trying desperately to dress it up as being "humane", that just turns the world upside down. Death is inhumane. Sending someone to die because you need to feel vengence is inhumane.
Ah, I see, you equate internet tough guys with child rapists, in terms of the moral harm they cause society. Brilliant argument, there, 18.
These retards are prepared to send people to die based solely on a need for revenge, i have nothing but contempt for them. They're not criminals they're just morally bankrupt though, so you have a point, thank GOD that wasnt sarcasm!
Because some crimes are not sufficiently reprehensible to warrant the death penalty, you clod. Violent child rape is much more analogous to murder, in terms of the moral demerits it warrants, than it is to grand theft auto.
Mayhap it is, mayhap it aint. Luckily i have several people here already saying that being imprisoned is so inhumane that death is preferable, so my argument (if death is better than prison, kill the prisoners) is perfectly valid. Bubble Boy already said it and so did Dutchess. Unless they want to change their tune and say thats not how "Isolation is worse than death" should be read?
Ah, so his angle is he wants the more brutal isolation and life sentences as Duchess outlined then, while costing the tax payer significant funds that could be well spent elsewhere.
See?
