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PeZook wrote:I will take that page from Shinra's playbook. I support the right to masturbate, but jesus...right in front of the royal palace?
I like how the Byzantine police chased away their protesters. With sticks. :D
PeZook wrote:Also, our chimpanzee has returned to Terra and is happy. There's just one thing...

What the hell do we do with it now? :P
Make her a national hero? Festoon her with medals? Give her command of an infantry regiment?
PeZook wrote:Fajita was shown on two monitors, playing with a rubber dog. He'd bet real astronauts would love to be allowed to do that instead of going through boring checklists.
I bet he's right. :P
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RogueIce wrote: I like how the Byzantine police chased away their protesters. With sticks. :D
And how did you like Common Carter Connoway, a qualified-if-slightly-bonkers Shroomanian flight ops director? :D

I wonder if Selene astronauts will like being commanded around by a guy who wears a pink vest to mission control ;)
RogueIce wrote: Make her a national hero? Festoon her with medals? Give her command of an infantry regiment?
We kinda already have real human astronauts by now, so this may be going a little overboard :D
RogueIce wrote: I bet he's right. :P
Not that they'd admit it, of course.

*stuffs a Chinese puzzle into his spacesuit*
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I love how everyone is getting into Shroomanian-brand nuttery. Common Carter Connoway! ALLITERATIONS!

Pink vests and, oh my, a ROCK IRONBEEF postcard! :lol:
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The protestors are lucky I didn't round them up and charge them for indecency. The country is fairly conservative.
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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:The protestors are lucky I didn't round them up and charge them for indecency. The country is fairly conservative.
You could still do that. I only wrote the police shooed them away with nightsticks, not what they did afterwards ;)
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PeZook wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:The protestors are lucky I didn't round them up and charge them for indecency. The country is fairly conservative.
You could still do that. I only wrote the police shooed them away with nightsticks, not what they did afterwards ;)
Perhaps I should. Throw in some traffic charges for obstructing traffic.
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Awright, since we got this first flight out of our hair, and the world isn't ending just yet here's the schedule for the rest of the Selen program up to the lunar landing:

Selene program

2012

Selene 1B (February 3rd 2012): Manned rendezvous test. A manned capsule will rendezvous with the ALMAZ-1 space station, approach it, photographs the ship and return to Terra

Selene 2
(April 1 2012): Eight-day manned duration flight.

Selene 3
(June 13 2012): EVA excercise

Selene 3B (June 15 2012): Launch of Agena Target Vehicle. First Selene launch from Comona Island.

Selene 4 (July 21 2012): Docking tests

Selene 5 (October 30 2012): Docking tests, tethered spacewalk

Selene 6 (December 30 2012): 10-day duration flight, EVA, docking test

2013

Selene 7 (February 15 2013): First live Terra Orbital LM test: docking systems, power systems, life support

Selene 8 (April 23 2013): Second live Terra Orbital LM test, with astronauts on board the LM: descent engine, maneuvering systems, guidance, more docking tests

Selene 9 (June 12 2013): Final LM tests. More descent engine tests (including burn-cold soak-burn-cold soak cycles), ascent engine tests, rendezvous drills, avionics.

Selene 10 June 30 2013: Unmanned lunar flyby (Soyuz capsule only, biological payload).

Selene 11 August 14 2013: Manned lunar flyby

Selene 12 September 23 2013: Manned lunar orbital

Selene 14 October 10 2013: Manned lunar LM test

Selene 15 November 20 2013: Manned lunar landing
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MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
Beowulf wrote:The TXAF F-14F is an even more over-engined version than the F-114 in IRT service. It will have roughly twice the thrust of the F-35C.

The F-35 is a bit incapable of accepting the Growler upgrade, since you need a WSO for it, and the F-35 is a single seater.
OK.. so does Phong produce the F-14F or you do? I might be interested in about 6 squadrons. 2 of which to be converted to F-14F with Growler add on.
My line is currently closed, and Phong's is currently open. However, with that as the number of orders, I could reopen my F-14 line. The TXAF F-14F differs in avionics fit from the IRT F-114, it should be noted.

Lastly, I'd need actually plane numbers. Squadrons are extremely variable in size. They can be anywhere from 4 to 18 planes in size.
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Beowulf wrote:My line is currently closed, and Phong's is currently open. However, with that as the number of orders, I could reopen my F-14 line. The TXAF F-14F differs in avionics fit from the IRT F-114, it should be noted.

Lastly, I'd need actually plane numbers. Squadrons are extremely variable in size. They can be anywhere from 4 to 18 planes in size.
I gave phong the order... about 12 a squadron. :?
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Hey phong, can we continue Shroomania's upgrade of its F-14s? :)
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Hey phong, can we continue Shroomania's upgrade of its F-14s? :)
Yes.
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Oh, Raj reminded me.
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Coiler wrote:And, for the sake of the game in general-I know this will be controversial and won't go along well with some people, but I actually want this incident to escalate further into hostilities. I want the world to be truly shaken up, to truly have clashes between superpowers-and not just filler and padding. I know that nukes flying and armies clashing isn't what many people want, but I feel that constantly backing down from superpower wars is just a sign that the status quo would be maintained.

I don't want the status quo to be maintained. I want to see Nova Terra go through a clash that truly changes it and the world order. It's not just to see big explosions-it's to truly keep this world moving, and not static.

That's just my opinion, and I hope you can understand my perspective.
I'm just catching up with all this, I generally don't look in much on weekends except on rare occassions.

While I do understand your point of view on this, what I've noticed in doing STGODS a lot is that there are three different ways these things can go--
Character games, where we all play one or two characters, sorta like a first-person shooter or RPG, which this is not.

and Empire games, of which there are two types--
-- Big-time war like a strategy game.
-- Political brinksmanship, diplomacy, and strategizing.

This one has pretty much evolved into Political Brinskmanship. Wars happen but they are contained. There are reasons for this... in Big War games, the stories tend to get sidelined and the games bog down into 4th-grade "I got you first!" "No you didn't!" "Yes, I did!" and arguments about "MY 6-skillion ton nukyulaer submarine ultra-carriers can sink your artificial-intelligent fusion megasubs!" "Well they could if they could find them past the cloaking device! I sinkz your carrierz and drinks your milkshake!"

Egh.

Plus, when tossing nukes around, we end up with a Mad Max apocalyptic scenario rather than the stories we signed on for.

Most of us are here as fiction writers and for those sorts of challenges. Controlling urges to use, say, player-character knowledge, metagaming, etc.

I actually wouldn't mind a conventional war with limited WMD use, but th eproblem is Shep (and to a lesser extent Skimmer) has organized military forces in such a way that it is impossible to avoid nuclear war. Shepnukistan doctrine regards nuclear weapons as just a bigger stick of dynamite and nothing more. The rest of us operate under established Earth doctrines that nukes are you "I give up, end of the world time" weapons to be used only under the most utmost extremes.

It kinda frames the debate in a way this is, really disadvantageous to many of us. Hence, we end up with more brinksmanship, politics, etc. That's the challenge.
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In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
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MKSheppard wrote:I can has Gitmo in Canissia? :twisted:
I'm actually tempted! I have been thinking about what I'll do with the Coilerburg base there-- round 'em up and head 'em out, keep 'em as a means to provide hopeful leverage, etc.... Heh! I'll have to contemplate that...
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."


In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!

If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Turn it into a celebrity hero! Fajita, FRIEND OF ALL PEOPLE!

Then the PAF-GENITALs would try to rescue it by attacking its handlers, and it defends its handlers by using its Chimpanzee 5x human strength to ruin their GENITAL's shit.

CHIM CHIM!

I think it would successfully conclude this whole eco-nuts business. While we circulate around the BOOM TUBE, videos of Fajita playing with dollies in orbit and running around happily after touchdown and hugging her FASTA handlers!

But she has to bite the face off a PAF-GENITAL dude.

^_______^
...AND INFECT HIM WITH 'RAGE'!!!

As far as I'm concerned, the militant animal-rights thing is concluded; the PAF (Provisional Armed Faction) -GENITAL was mostly killed at Eden; the few that are left were mostly posers. Myra Foxglove has resumed control of the group and will probably rename it, she is devoted to pacifism and non-violent protest. So the animal rights groups now can just be used for background protests that we use to justify one action or another, etc.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."


In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!

If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
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Coyote wrote: It kinda frames the debate in a way this is, really disadvantageous to many of us. Hence, we end up with more brinksmanship, politics, etc. That's the challenge.
I see. Well, I was just stating my opinion, and nothing more. Yours is equally valid.

And I knew that I would end up as a UAR vassal-that's exactly the point of my decision.
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Fuck. :?
Also, "Major FUN Nations" specifically excludes the Shadow Empire, Coilerburg, Indophal etc.
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We need to send someone to Zablania so the Saddamistanis aren't the only ones there.

Not Zorians, though. There would be some bad blood... PeZookians? Come on, guys. Establish diplomatic communications in a desecrated wasteland! It'll be a First Contact... like Star Trek!
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:We need to send someone to Zablania so the Saddamistanis aren't the only ones there.

Not Zorians, though. There would be some bad blood... PeZookians? Come on, guys. Establish diplomatic communications in a desecrated wasteland! It'll be a First Contact... like Star Trek!
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Who else is near? Shadow? Zoria? I can't hope to reach Zablania fast enough with my ships...
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Fast enough? They're going to be stripping thousands of acres of soil. They'll be there for months :P

BTW, do you know what time it is?

That's right! ISCA BUDGET TIME!!!

Ships! Gunboats! Freighters! Nuclear commerce ships! Undersea habitats! FIRE SALE! FIRE SALE!!!
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We need someone to get there first :P

But, now that you brought that (obvious) piece of knowledge... eh, yeah. We could reply in a total cool fashion, as to not piss them off.
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I could send some guys to watch them, but I would rather leave the diplomacy part to somebody else. This is Saddamistan we are talking about and we need a more skilled diplomat. :D
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Speaking of people building things and deliveries, Rogue Ice I do believe I ordered a type 212 boat from you for Indhopal for this year, any idea when it will be delivered? I was hoping to order 1 a year for 3-4 years....
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Here we go, brand new ISCA bulletin full of happy corporate feelgoodspeak. And Raj, the FUN vote is going well so far :) A few more votes and you're in.
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Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.

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