MP4s are devil's device, says Orthodox Court

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MP4s are devil's device, says Orthodox Court

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Ynetnews.com wrote:MP4s are devil's device, says Orthodox Court

Ultra-Orthodox community in Jerusalem enraged over sales of MP4 devices, considered 'devil's way of driving people to sin.' Orthodox Righteous Court of Law issues formal ruling banning vendors from stocking devices; two stores selling them vandalized

Neta Sela Published: 06.30.08, 08:10 / Israel Jewish Scene

Technological advancements have always posed somewhat of a problem for the ultra-Orthodox community. The rabbis often choose to ban any public contact with any unfamiliar gadget, for fear their users might be exposed to inappropriate content; and so MP4 players, which allow users to watch films, have now become the newest threat to chastity.

The fight against the device reached a new level last week, when an MP4 supplier, whose store is located on the outskirts of Jerusalem's Meah Shearim neighborhood, found it vandalized – its window and showcases smashed.

A second store, located just off the capital's Shabbat Square, did not fare much better: It too was vandalized and its repair lab burnt down. Some say that was an event waiting to happen: For several weeks prior to the arson, a dozen-or-so yeshiva student used to demonstrate in front of the store every week and protest the sale of the banned devices.

The storeowners even found pashkevilim (informative ads or posters often plastered in the Jerusalem's religious neighborhoods) distributed against them: "A terrible plague is upon us, calming victims every day… these sinful devices were banned by all the great rabbis, but are still common in the haredi world… their devilish distributors want nothing more than to drive the people of Israel to sin, through movies and other abominations," read the ads.

Another pashkevil, by the "association for the saving of the youth in the Holy Land," informed the public about a rabbis and an Orthodox Righteous Court of Law ordinance banning MP4 devices all together: "This little device is the devil's way to try and gain entrance to our protected homes and yeshivas, disguised as something you can listen to Torah lessons through," it said.

Ynet has learned that the Orthodox Righteous Court of Law had, indeed, held a session on MP4 devices. The court ruled that the devices must be banned and issued a warning to all vendors not to stock them, saying those who do "will be subject to a court hearing," and giving vendors three week to comply with its ruling.

The police have reportedly launched an investigation into both vandalism incidents.
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Hmm...what a splendid display of logic and rational thinking in the middle east.
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Many muslim mullahs deliver their recorded sermons in mp4 format now.

Should not the rabbis also adapt to the changing times and do the same ?

Come to think of it, the fantastic compression ratio of mp4 audio is a splendid way to spread more of god's words. It is a boon to the faithful. Truly such magnificent technology like mp4 players can only be a sign from the heavens. :lol:
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Wait, those ultra-orthodox rabbinic courts actually have legal force?
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:Wait, those ultra-orthodox rabbinic courts actually have legal force?
No, they just have the power to expel people who are Orthodox from their synagogues and basically shun them, and order Orthodox store owners to stop carrying such devices. The mobs are simply trying to drive them out of Orthodox districts in Israel. A couple miles away there could easily be women in Rio bikinis on a beach watching MP4s. Israel is a rather nonsensical and eccentric country.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Wait, those ultra-orthodox rabbinic courts actually have legal force?
No, they just have the power to expel people who are Ultra-Orthodox (Haredi) from their synagogues and basically shun them, and order Ultra-Orthodox (Haredi) store owners to stop carrying such devices. The mobs are simply trying to drive them out of Ultra-Orthodox (Haredi) districts in Israel. A couple miles away there could easily be women in Rio bikinis on a beach watching MP4s. Israel is a rather nonsensical and eccentric country.
Corrected. The Orthodox community, known in hebrew as Dati Leumi (National religious), have nothing to do with this. The Haredi community is simply doing what it is allowed to do, having a rabbi announce that some products are not acceptable (I think the term is muktze. What they are not allowed to do is the vandalism, for which the police, as mentioned, is looking into.

As for the beachs...yes. And even less, I could walk 5 minutes from Bnei Brak to Ramat Gan and find myself in the middle of a completly fashionable disco. It's just that in between, there will probably be some sort of community erected barrier.
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So what about portable DVD players, laptops, desktop PCs, VCRs... are they also banned? After all there's hardly a shortage of 'inappropriate content' for them.

Or does MP4 players small size make them uniquely evil in some way?
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The article says that these terrible devices are 'calming victims every day'. Either that's hilarious, or it's misspelt 'claiming'.

DAMN THE CALMING! I need my pain! :lol:
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Stark wrote:The article says that these terrible devices are 'calming victims every day'. Either that's hilarious, or it's misspelt 'claiming'.

DAMN THE CALMING! I need my pain! :lol:
If you get an MP4 player with enough storage you could put a lot of pr0n on it. I dunno about you but I find fapping rather calming.
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General Zod wrote:If you get an MP4 player with enough storage you could put a lot of pr0n on it. I dunno about you but I find fapping rather calming.
Turn back from the calming, Zod! Why do you hate our freedoms??
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