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Why I have a job: Bombs found in FL Neighborhood

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ORLANDO, Florida (CNN) -- The search teams comb through the backyards of the half-million-dollar homes with metal detectors, placing red flags on the manicured lawns every time they get a hit. To the shock of residents, they sometimes find live bombs.

The bombs are left over from a 12,000-acre World War II bombing range. The area has become an Orlando neighborhood with thousands of homes.

The Army Corps of Engineers has launched a $10 million cleanup of what used to be the PineCastle Jeep Range, but it said bombs could remain there once they're done.

"Chances are, it's not a problem," said Mike Ornella, the man leading the Army Corps cleanup.

But he conceded, "We're never going to be 100 percent sure. We're never going to give a 100 percent guarantee that the properties are clear."

The developer refused comment for this story. Residents are enraged.

"It's incomprehensible," said Frank Kruppenbacher, the general counsel of the Orange County school board. "It starts with my wondering why the U.S. military ever allowed any of these properties [to] be developed without first saying you have to go through X-checklist."

The first bomb was found last summer next to the Odyssey Middle School track. Since that time, 126 rockets and bombs -- with high explosives -- have been found on school property, along with other military debris.

No children have been injured by the explosives. Two adults who found munitions on school property suffered minor burns, including a worker, who while making repairs on the track, uncovered a fragment that was buried under concrete and it caught fire.

A handful of explosives have been found in the housing developments, but no residents have been hurt, officials said.

Kruppenbacher is furious.

"Before they get to walk away and claim 'we're done,' we're going to have a real day of reckoning and assurances," Kruppenbacher said.

Danette Lamb said she and her husband, Russell, raided their retirement savings to pay for their townhouse in the Vista Square subdivision. Their son, Johnny, attends Odyssey Middle School.

"It makes you feel bad as a parent because I don't have the funds to go and take my son and put him in private school," she said.

She added that her property value has plummeted since the bomb discoveries.

"What am I going to do with this? Nobody wants to touch this neighborhood. I'm stuck. So this is not my little American family dream that we had."

Red flags mark spots in the ground where metal has been found and needs further inspection. "For Sale" and "For Rent" signs are everywhere.

Most want to know: How could this happen and who's responsible?

The Army Corps of Engineers maintains it's not responsible.

"It was known that this was a demonstration area for war fighting," said Ornella. "People knew it and the information was available. Absolutely available."

Asked if the Army Corps raised enough concerns, Ornella said, "I believe the Army Corps followed the process we are required to follow."

The Army Corps of Engineers did publish government reports more than a decade ago about the bombing range.

A 1994 report said the site "is a possible danger to the public," and a 1997 report cited "strafing, practice bombing, air-to-ground rocket firing, some high explosive bombing."

Ornella said the Army Corps wasn't required to do more to inform anyone about the possible dangers, even though their records show they knew construction was coming.

"Development expected in near future," read a July 1994 report.

The bombing site in Orlando is one of 9,000 formerly used by the Pentagon in the United States, according to the Army Corps of Engineers. Some are being cleaned up, but they said most are not. As in Orlando, some have been the target of lawsuits and some, including a site in Dallas, Texas, have been developed.

The Orlando site jumped to the top of the priority list last summer, when live bombs were found in the area.

Local officials say it's disturbing that home construction was allowed anywhere near the property.

The school board, builders and engineering firms all say they didn't ask because they had no idea it was an old bombing range.

Multiple lawsuits have been filed, accusing builders of gross negligence and seeking unspecified monetary damages.

John K. Overchuck, a lawyer representing homeowners, is suing one builder, Lennar.

"They're the ones who made the money off this property. They're the ones who bought this for dirt, and built these houses for up to a half a million dollars," he says. "They're the ones who made the profit, they're the ones who are responsible because they've got these people suckered into these houses."

Lennar would not consent to an interview to CNN, but did provide a written statement. Lennar says it relied on studies that "made no mention of ... a military range," and claims the military did not show up in property ownership records because, "it had leased the land."

But at the same time, it was no secret that the military once used the property.

Nearly two decades ago, the 1989 development order, in which the county granted the permission to develop the land, shows that builders and developers knew "of the site's history of military use."

The order specifically says that "project construction personnel shall be notified ... of the site's history of military use." It states that construction management must be notified of "suspected findings of potentially hazardous military material."

It further states that in the event of such findings, "the developer shall immediately stop construction at the site of discovery and notify Orange County and the Florida Department of Environmental Regulation."

Homeowner Danette Lamb wants answers.

"Somebody knew something. A lot of somebodies turned their heads and tried to make a quick buck," she said.

Meanwhile, the Army Corps of Engineers continues to survey the land and homeowners' properties. But they can only survey the common areas and grassy areas. Sensors and examining equipment cannot see under roads, cement or the foundations of homes.

Local and federal law enforcement officials say that the issue is a civil matter and that no criminal investigations have begun.

Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer says homeowners deserve to be angry about the situation.

"We have to make sure that the federal government, who has the ability to right this wrong, does so," he said.

"They [the Army Corps] need to restore the faith in the neighborhood, that their neighborhood is safe and making it a neighborhood that somebody would want to come buy a house in."

But that faith may be a long way away -- if even achievable.

"You can't even give this place away right now. I've tried to re-finance. ... I can't do anything," Lamb said.
Okay, this story caught my eye because a good chunk of what I do for a living is help certify land as cleared and suitable for development. The people who're pissed off at the military are, in my opinion, idiots. The FIRST THING any developer or assessor would do when acquiring a military property is check its site history. A lot of military property is clean and really wasn't used, but a lot of it has really nasty shit buried in it (sometime I'll tell you about a shed full of radium paint).

In order for this school to have been built with reports out on the UXO at the site (unexploded ordnance), there are a few things that could've happened.
1. The assessor didn't do its job. Either they dropped the ball, or they were lazy and didn't get the doccumentation from the pentagon.
2. The assessor lied. They found the info and didn't report it to the developer.
3. The developer covered it up or buried it in paper. They found out late in the game and didn't want to spring for UXO work, for bad press or whatever.

Basically, these people should sue the realtors and the developer, and should get a copy of the assessment report and find out who knew what and when.
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Yeah, blaming the military is excessive in this case. The documentation was out there; they are basically saying that they expected the military to proactively stop people from developing on it, even though that isn't their job. Although I suppose one could argue that the military should have gone through the site and cleaned it up before releasing it.

The real-estate developers and local city councils were obviously at fault, and that's no surprise: collusion between local councils and real-estate developers is an old story.

However, I can see where the residents are coming from; as posted earlier, one could argue that it is inherently negligent to release the property for other public uses without first making sure that it is safe for civilian use. If they didn't clear the buried explosives, it was basically unsafe for anything.
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The reality is that the military has used huge swathes of land as bombing ranges, artillery, what-have-you, and especially back in the 1940s-1960s were fond of using live munitions (live mustard gas rounds on US soil, great...).

Now there are two major types of clearing; "surface" and "sub-surface."

Now surface just deals with whats on the ground (duh.) and in theory sounds nice and simple. However it can still be massive affair involving lots of people and heavy bulldozers and such because of areas that are overgrown with trees, weeds, marshes, and generally crappy terrain. You see this in places where people are going to be expected to be out and about, but with no permanent structures, industrial digging, etc. Generally warnings are in place just as an "FYI don't touch da bomb, call a cop."

Subsurface is more complex and involves underground search methods. This is a requirement for ground where things are to be built. Sounds to me like somebody didn't go subsurface in the story. Now also, just because something is cleared doesn't exactly mean its cleared- it happens, UXO grows out of nowhere (its like the reverse of socks in a washing machine). So I'd like to know exactly if the live rounds were found scattered or piled and buried, and more details.
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It sounds like they're mostly being found near-surface, given they were turned over by the laying of some new railroad track. Of course, anything sitting out would've been noticed and removed during development.
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This happens everywhere it seems. In the area where I grew up, it is quite common to find unexploded ordinance dating back to when the army did maneuvers during World War two. Fortunately there is Beale Air Force Base there which happens to have an EOD unit that is always dealing with artillery shells and mortar rounds.
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