Man gets 30 months for broken rifle

Falkenhorst · Post by **Falkenhorst** » 2008-07-04 09:02pm

Go on youtube and look up "Bump Fire". Essentially you can cause a semiauto rifle to fire at a high repetitive rate just by holding it a certain way. How is that different?

Mr. Coffee · Post by **Mr. Coffee** » 2008-07-04 09:11pm

Falkenhorst wrote:Go on youtube and look up "Bump Fire". Essentially you can cause a semiauto rifle to fire at a high repetitive rate just by holding it a certain way. How is that different?

Because it's not multiple rounds being fired with a single trigger pull would be my first guess...

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2008-07-04 09:29pm

Mr. Coffee wrote:
Falkenhorst wrote:Go on youtube and look up "Bump Fire". Essentially you can cause a semiauto rifle to fire at a high repetitive rate just by holding it a certain way. How is that different?
Because it's not multiple rounds being fired with a single trigger pull would be my first guess...

Exactly.
'Bump firing' (and I've done this myself) is using the weapon's recoil and your natural 'pull back' motion to cycle the trigger repeatedly.

To be a 'machine gun' under federal law, the weapon has to be capable of firing two or more rounds with a single pull of the trigger.
Bump firing is legally considered a single round fired per trigger pull.

[R_H] · Post by **[R_H]** » 2008-07-05 07:46am

Kanastrous wrote: Wow.

Lucky for him the FAMAS doesn't use a barrel plug for blank-firing. The rifle would have exploded in his face.

What kind of blank fire adapter does the FAMAS use? The International Herald Tribune reported that: "A metal device that the sergeant had on his weapon for the exercise was designed to help explode blanks but slowed the real bullets and reduced their precision.". They're talking about a blank fire adapter, right?

Post by **Edi** » 2008-07-05 07:51am

[R_H] wrote:
Kanastrous wrote: Wow.

Lucky for him the FAMAS doesn't use a barrel plug for blank-firing. The rifle would have exploded in his face.
What kind of blank fire adapter does the FAMAS use? The International Herald Tribune reported that: "A metal device that the sergeant had on his weapon for the exercise was designed to help explode blanks but slowed the real bullets and reduced their precision.". They're talking about a blank fire adapter, right?

Probably the kind that screws on the barrel and blocks the blank going forward, so it impacts against the metal and the splinters fly out to the sides, which are open.

Kanastrous · Post by **Kanastrous** » 2008-07-05 01:17pm

Nothing ought to be expelled from the barrel of a blank-firing weapon, at all, except gas and some unburned propellant.

At least, if you're using crimped blanks. I haven't seen any other kind of blanks made for military rifles, but I guess they could be out there.

Some rifles have an adjustable gas valve that can be used instead of an adapter. It's meant for launching rifle grenades with ballistite cartridges, but it may function in place of a slide-in muzzle restrictor.

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2008-07-05 01:55pm

Some blanks use a wooden bullet instead of a BFA to create enough gas pressure to cycle the action.
If the French use wood blanks with a 'shredder' attachment, it'd explain why the live ammo didn't blow the gun up in his face.

Kanastrous · Post by **Kanastrous** » 2008-07-05 03:28pm

You know, shooting frangible wooden slugs into a shredder is something I just about believe the French Army would be doing, in the 21st century...