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Just a few days I have books to read and games to run that were put on the back burner for a while, so my country would just get a slow start.
I have books to read and games to run that were put on the back burner for a while, so my country would just get a slow start.
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
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Why?They have no means of getting home unless somebody goes up and gets them, and they had to watch the world destroy itself. Now they're stuck in orbit inside a two-person tin can with a month or so worth of supplies, Korolev spaceport almost certainly got nuked...christ. Horrible fate.
They have a return pod of course, it's the later ALMAZ design (I figured that starting from the 1-port ALMAZ design is stupid, since the 2-port one is already available).
The question is, do they want to return to irradiated land?
Seriously though, aside from Shepnukistan and Saddam (oh, and sorry about Coiler, i hope no one minds) fallout will clear in two weeks to more or less normal in the areas remote from epicenters.
P.S. So what is the damage report?
As far as I gather, 10-12 rivers in Saddamistan and Shepnukistan have been struck with irradiating bombs.
Around 20 major cities (pop. over 100,000) were struck with irradiating bombs directly. Cities with 500,000-1,000,000 and over population were struck by the HELA missiles with 400 kg of cobalt. Even with a very large, Moscow-like area of 1000 sq. km such cities would be subject to ~1g/sqm irradiation, killing most population within the first day (lethal dose within minutes, process of death will take a few hours).
Also, around 6000 VX missiles were thrown from emplacements in the Diocese, Bear Republic and Zoria, poisoning the land. Assuming the SCUDs didn't do well in a surprise attack, I'd say around 20% passed, which means 240 tons of VX were spread over their rural land and small cities.
Military bases were relatively unaffected, due to the long term effects of radiological weapon like cobalt, so tey could carry out their attack. However, in a few days when fallout covers the entire Shepland, they are dead.
I would presume around 500 nuclear devices were initiated against Red Technocracy military targets and civilian centers. This would lead to the loss of 20-30, maximum - 40% of the population in the immediate aftermath. In two weeks, since the military command has not been broken (SSTO and ALMAZ, as well as other orbital assets help greatly here), we can assess the damage.
UKB and many other nations were not affected.
However, Neverhood will be fucked due to fallout from Shepland, and Quidlivun is also dead.
Coiler... let's say it's over for him.
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El presidente is....dead!
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
Ah, if they have a return pod, then I guess they're not doomed to die alone in the cold of spaceStas Bush wrote: They have a return pod of course, it's the later ALMAZ design (I figured that starting from the 1-port ALMAZ design is stupid, since the 2-port one is already available).
Well, I'd return. If only to see if my family's okay (yeah, right...like anybody would be...)Stas Bush wrote:The question is, do they want to return to irradiated land?
Wait, wait...Stas Bush wrote:<snip damage assessment>
Does this mean...
Does this mean we've won?
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
That's why you should've had an Evil Overlord bunker with a helicopter stashed insideLonestar wrote:El presidente is....dead!
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
Nobody wins Global Thermonuclear War.PeZook wrote:Wait, wait...
Does this mean...
Does this mean we've won?
The UAR came out the worst though. So I guess that might count as a "win" of sorts.
We're basically fucked over though, except those who got to escape the hammering. Still, I imagine the global economy just took a nosedive.
This is the price of war,
We rise with noble intentions,
And we risk all that is pure..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, Forever (Rome: Total War)
"On and on, through the years,
The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." - Ambrose Redmoon
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight
Won in the sense that we're not ALL dead and civilization as a whole might survive.RogueIce wrote: Nobody wins Global Thermonuclear War.
The UAR came out the worst though. So I guess that might count as a "win" of sorts.
We're basically fucked over though, except those who got to escape the hammering. Still, I imagine the global economy just took a nosedive.
You know, I think I'll make another game post or two
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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
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Heh, BTW, I think Coiler regrets his decision to join the UAR now 
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
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Not as far fetched... cosmonaut families usually work for the military. if you're cruising somewhere at M=8 and 30 km up and above, it's kinda hard to kill youIf only to see if my family's okay (yeah, right...like anybody would be...)
Technically because I was an ass about it, the world as a whole "won", in the sense that Sheppards and Skimmers nations were turned into irradiated Chernobyl zones for 5 long years, while most nations did not die.Does this mean we've won?
Our "wounds" are far more deadly in the short-term, but only for two weeks.
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Hay Shep, if I lost 200 thousand people does that mean I'm up and running in four years?
It's too bad this book isn't available here, i'd love to take a look at the methodology used.
It's too bad this book isn't available here, i'd love to take a look at the methodology used.
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
It means all you have to do is say you're downsizing your military (easy enough since they just got blown up) and start churning out advanced weapons systems.PeZook wrote:Hay Shep, if I lost 200 thousand people does that mean I'm up and running in four years?
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We rise with noble intentions,
And we risk all that is pure..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, Forever (Rome: Total War)
"On and on, through the years,
The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
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The General Secretary personally blows up Shep
It's like the Atlantis execution, except with a suborbital bomber
BTW, what's the orbital period of the ALMAZ?
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
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I presumed it's around 6 hours, but maybe i'm wrong. The orbit must be elliptical for the trajectory... though actually, i"m kinda lost...BTW, what's the orbital period of the ALMAZ?
Also, I didn't blow up Shep
Anna blew up his aerial command post, which was the last thing that commanded UAR forces in the air.
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I am good with symbolism.
And HUEG KITTENS.
And HUEG KITTENS.
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Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people
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Because I don't feel like calculating the orbit and projecting the trajectory, I'll just go with 6 hoursStas Bush wrote:I presumed it's around 6 hours, but maybe i'm wrong. The orbit must be elliptical for the trajectory... though actually, i"m kinda lost...BTW, what's the orbital period of the ALMAZ?
Also, I didn't blow up Shep
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
Heh, it's fun writing about the world dying!
...for some people
...for some people
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
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Yeah, due to the stupid limits I assumed we'd bump ALMAZ as high as possible but a little short of the VA belts, making the orbit greater.
Maybe it'd look more like 3 hours instead of 4, but hey, plus minus 1 hour is not that important.
Considering how many nuclear devices Shep initiated, my nation is basically in nigh complete ravage, sans the Army, who still have a command post in the sky.
We should be downing the cosmonauts though. That psych-stress won't do too well on them. A day or more, in-game, in command should be enough to restore at least some communication between ravaged nations. Tat means in the evening they can go land somewhere, say in PeZookia or Shroomania.
Maybe it'd look more like 3 hours instead of 4, but hey, plus minus 1 hour is not that important.
Considering how many nuclear devices Shep initiated, my nation is basically in nigh complete ravage, sans the Army, who still have a command post in the sky.
We should be downing the cosmonauts though. That psych-stress won't do too well on them. A day or more, in-game, in command should be enough to restore at least some communication between ravaged nations. Tat means in the evening they can go land somewhere, say in PeZookia or Shroomania.
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http://www.cybertrn.demon.co.uk/atomic/ ... arming.htm
Read here, a survivor's manual. My civil defense has disseminated such things for a long time, I guess most people seriously centered on making their people survive did too.
I really feel sorry for Shep. All of it applies to everyone under attack now... except Shep will not see this happening:
Read here, a survivor's manual.
My civil defense has disseminated such things for a long time, I guess most people seriously centered on making their people survive did too.I really feel sorry for Shep. All of it applies to everyone under attack now... except Shep will not see this happening:
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Damn PeZook you're gonna depress me.
But that seals it. We can't have LtCol. Kulinsky and Plut. Kazimiera Swieta die like that. Reboot!
But that seals it. We can't have LtCol. Kulinsky and Plut. Kazimiera Swieta die like that. Reboot!
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And we risk all that is pure..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, Forever (Rome: Total War)
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The war continues on..." - Angela & Jeff van Dyck, We Are All One (Medieval 2: Total War)
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Fuck...
Goddamn it, PeZook! NO! NO! NO! I WON'T HAVE THAT! FUCK NO! NOT THE ISCA, NOT THE FASTA! NOT LT. COLONEL GODDAMN KULINSKY!
Fuck nuclear war!
Goddamn it, PeZook! NO! NO! NO! I WON'T HAVE THAT! FUCK NO! NOT THE ISCA, NOT THE FASTA! NOT LT. COLONEL GODDAMN KULINSKY!
Fuck nuclear war!
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I guess I'm killing off the recurring characters as a way to seal the current worldRogueIce wrote:Damn PeZook you're gonna depress me.
But that seals it. We can't have LtCol. Kulinsky and Plut. Kazimiera Swieta die like that. Reboot!
Though I can't help but imagine a scene in the re-booted world, where Kulinsky wakes up in the middile of the night, hyperventilating, after having a nightmare where he's trapped inside his crashed car and desperately trying to fish out his service pistol in order to commit suicide...
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
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MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
That's not a half-bad idea. Those of us in Nova Terra SecundaPeZook wrote:I guess I'm killing off the recurring characters as a way to seal the current world
Though I can't help but imagine a scene in the re-booted world, where Kulinsky wakes up in the middile of the night, hyperventilating, after having a nightmare where he's trapped inside his crashed car and desperately trying to fish out his service pistol in order to commit suicide...
would also remember it, as Q was kind enough to save our asses from certain death.By the by, what'd you think of my GDP figures in that last PM?
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May as well. We're ending it all in atomic wargasm anyway, and going for a reboot.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around!
If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!!
Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!