Dr. Drew: Tom Cruise is mental, and Scientology is a cult

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2008-07-09 02:11am

I'd love to hear what he thinks of A2M.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2008-07-09 02:13am

Galvatron wrote:I'd love to hear what he thinks of A2M.

I don't think you'd find a competent doctor on Earth who approves of A2M.

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2008-07-09 02:19am

And yet it's ubiquitous in porn now. Straight-up anal is old hat. It's gotten to the point where I can hardly ever see a good uninterrupted ass-reaming any more.

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2008-07-09 02:25am

Darth Wong wrote:
Galvatron wrote:I'd love to hear what he thinks of A2M.
I don't think you'd find a competent doctor on Earth who approves of A2M.

Quacks. Fucking Quacks... all of them!

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2008-07-09 10:08am

That A2M doesn't really occur is pretty much proof positive to me that the rise in certain sexual acts is not due mostly to porn, or you'd see across the board increases of porn-glamorized acts. Yet I think just as few chicks will want to gag and sputter and choke on my cock now as 20 years ago.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2008-07-09 12:24pm

Dr. Drew has for many years(I haven't listened to Loveline since Adam Carolla left) said that he is not so much Pro-Circumcision as he is Anti-CrazyDudeWithTooMuchEnergyFocusedOnHisJunkThatHeWorriesAndFretsOverHisParentsDeciscionToCircumciseHim.
He has a pet peeve about people being too worried over the foreskin, either way. He does promote circumcision when it is medically relevant(narrowing of the opening)

Problem is Dr Drew is a horrible actor and its hard to tell the difference between him being Sarcastic and Passionate.

Mlenk · Post by **Mlenk** » 2008-07-09 01:19pm

Galvatron wrote:I'd love to hear what he thinks of A2M.

Forgive my ignorance, but does A2M mean ass to mouth?

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2008-07-09 01:45pm

Ass-to-mouth

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2008-07-09 02:23pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:just as few chicks will want to gag and sputter and choke on my cock now as 20 years ago.

Now that's sig-worthy.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2008-07-09 02:39pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:That A2M doesn't really occur is pretty much proof positive to me that the rise in certain sexual acts is not due mostly to porn, or you'd see across the board increases of porn-glamorized acts. Yet I think just as few chicks will want to gag and sputter and choke on my cock now as 20 years ago.

I think Drew's notions about porn are rather quaint, which is a nice way of saying "shockingly ignorant". Porn has featured anal sex, gangbangs, and menage a troi action in easily accessible form since the 1970s. His assumption that all of these things are recent developments in porn and/or sexual culture is, well, laughable. Even Georgina Spelvin took it up the ass in the infamous 1973 blue movie "Devil in Miss Jones" (which bears the notable distinction of being one of the few porn movies to have ever been reviewed by Roger Ebert).

But he clearly has a bug up his ass about anal sex (no pun intended), and he's trying to find excuses to tell people that it will hurt them, even though people have been doing it for a loooong time, so his laundry list of health problems should have cropped up long ago. And then there's the fact that 30-40% of women develop vaginal prolapse during their lifetimes ...

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2008-07-09 03:59pm

I'd also expect an epidemic of rectal prolapse among gay and bisexual men with a fondness for receptive anal sex. Which I've never heard of.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2008-07-09 04:19pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:I'd also expect an epidemic of rectal prolapse among gay and bisexual men with a fondness for receptive anal sex. Which I've never heard of.

The rates are slightly increased. But not by much, and that is mostly attributable to poor sex practices like not using enough lube, being too rough too consistently, etc. Oh and butt plugs, dont forget the butt plugs.

Also: You can say "raging bottoms" it's ok. You need not mince words here.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2008-07-09 04:33pm

I could be misremembering, but most of his slamming of anal sex came out of the fact that the idiots who were doing it were not being safe about it - no use of a condom, no lube, being extremely rough, etc, etc, etc. Given those circumstances, I would be surprised if there weren't repercussions later. His cautions about what could result were an outgrowth of a stoned 16 year old saying he did it a certain way and Dr. Drew trying to get him to stop being a god damned idiot.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2008-07-10 12:15am

Ender wrote:I could be misremembering, but most of his slamming of anal sex came out of the fact that the idiots who were doing it were not being safe about it - no use of a condom, no lube, being extremely rough, etc, etc, etc. Given those circumstances, I would be surprised if there weren't repercussions later. His cautions about what could result were an outgrowth of a stoned 16 year old saying he did it a certain way and Dr. Drew trying to get him to stop being a god damned idiot.

I dunno, that bullshit about how anal sex is caused by porn sounds like standard-issue fundie nonsense to me.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2008-07-10 12:20am

It amuses me somewhat that people think ideas like 'anal sex' must have 'come from' somewhere. Obviously nobody just messes around and works this shit out for themselves, right? They must have rented 'Make Your Girlfriend a Sodomite #24' or it would NEVER have happened.

I bet nobody ever got off on being spanked until they saw it in porn either. Right?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2008-07-10 12:31am

That's why I figure he's an uptight whitebread fundietard. Anyone with a decent sex life must have eventually been humping his wife doggy-style one day, looked down, and thought "I wonder what that other hole feels like."

But your standard-issue "missionary-position, lights out, do it for your country" type? I could see that kind of person thinking that nobody would have anal sex if porn didn't convince them to do it.

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2008-07-10 12:34am

I think it comes from abstinence education. Don't want to knock up your girlfriend? CORNHOLE HER!

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2008-07-10 01:14am

Does anyone have a quote of him saying it was from porn? Is that just a "I think I heard..." thing or is that confirmed?

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2008-07-10 01:27am

He's definitely not a fundie (of the religious sort anyway). He's gone up against fundies repeatedly over the morning after pill and abortion. He's also claimed to be an atheist on more than a few occasions.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2008-07-10 01:30am

All we have on this debate is Galvy's and Durandal's word or paraphrase, we could use some quotes and context to substantiate the discussion.

Bug-Eyed Earl · Post by **Bug-Eyed Earl** » 2008-07-10 10:49am

He is in favor of the morning after pill, condoms, and all forms of birth control, and has said th earliest someone should have sex is 16 or 17 because of brain development- he never brings marriage into it. He never mentions his own religion, and no fundie could do the job he does without sticking their religion into the mix.

As for how he analyzed Tom Cruise with limited exposure to him- I heard him once correctly determine that a caller had Multiple Personality Disorder during a conversation that didn't go that way from listening to her speak, and he can usually tell when a caller has some sort of trauma, namely sexual abuse, in their past due to their voice.

His attitude is "It's fine if you enjoy it, but if it's hurting the woman, it's because she isn't configured for it, or the male's penis is too big."

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2008-07-10 11:22am

Darth Wong wrote:That's why I figure he's an uptight whitebread fundietard. Anyone with a decent sex life must have eventually been humping his wife doggy-style one day, looked down, and thought "I wonder what that other hole feels like."

After three years I ran out of convincing arguments besides occasionally repeating "I really would like it", "so would you", "we'll use all the lube".

One of her arguments against (the favorite is "I'm suure it will hurt") is the incontinence issue, which is hard to discuss when the girl you're trying to ram the ass of is an MD. Anyway, she's OK with everything except anal and threesomes with her younger sister (which would more than make up for the anal).

Oh well, I'm happy, I have memories and hope never dies.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2008-07-10 11:50am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Does anyone have a quote of him saying it was from porn? Is that just a "I think I heard..." thing or is that confirmed?

http://www.drdrew.com/DrewLive/article.asp?id=1294

Anal sex is one of the most effective ways to transmit an STD. The receptive partner has the highest risk of contracting the disease. HIV, Hepatitis C and all other STDs can also be transmitted this way. And don’t forget the wart virus. Most people aren’t aware that being exposed to the wart virus and the human papiloma virus (HPV) by contact with the anal region seems to increase the risk for anal cancer.

How can you protect yourself? Avoiding these behaviors or using a latex barrier seems to be the most appropriate way.

I must say that I’m really quite bewildered by the preoccupation of anal sex and all the questions I get about it these days. I don’t know if the pornographic industry has somehow raised awareness of this activity, or if this is some sort of an aggressive act that men are looking to perpetrate against women.

Certainly both partners must be willing to do this. Care needs to be taken to not damage the women’s anal sphincter or rectum, as this is a part of the body that can be injured. If the woman is not interested in this behavior she should not feel as though she is letting her partner down if she doesn’t engage in it. If this is not something you want to do you should not be doing it.

Certainly, it's not as bad as a raging fundie, although it's rather unlikely that he's an atheist. But there are a couple of items to note:

1) He points out that HPV can cause anal cancer, and warns people of that extra risk with anal sex. Why not also point out that it causes cervical cancer through vaginal sex?

2) He does indeed definitely think that anal sex is being popularized by porn.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2008-07-10 11:52am

Colonel Olrik wrote:After three years I ran out of convincing arguments besides occasionally repeating "I really would like it", "so would you", "we'll use all the lube".

One of her arguments against (the favorite is "I'm suure it will hurt") is the incontinence issue, which is hard to discuss when the girl you're trying to ram the ass of is an MD. Anyway, she's OK with everything except anal and threesomes with her younger sister (which would more than make up for the anal).

Oh well, I'm happy, I have memories and hope never dies.

She may be an MD, but that doesn't automatically mean her comments about incontinence must have medical merit. The idea that a muscle becomes useless if you occasionally stretch it is beyond absurd; it actually goes directly against our knowledge of the behaviour of other muscles, which actually benefit from exercise and stretching, so long as they are not exercised or stretched to the point of tearing.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2008-07-10 12:19pm

Darth Wong wrote: She may be an MD, but that doesn't automatically mean her comments about incontinence must have medical merit. The idea that a muscle becomes useless if you occasionally stretch it is beyond absurd; it actually goes directly against our knowledge of the behaviour of other muscles, which actually benefit from exercise and stretching, so long as they are not exercised or stretched to the point of tearing.

That may be all correct, but it makes it difficult to argue the point since it's within her perceived area of expertise and not mine (I'm obviously the car, computer, electronics and furniture mounting side of our relationship). I haven't tried to press her into a more serious discussion about it, mainly since I'm not "That NOS Guy".