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Russia rated UK's biggest threat after al-Qaeda and Iran

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Britain’s security services have identified Russia as the third most serious threat facing the country, it has emerged before Gordon Brown’s first meeting with President Medvedev.

Security officials say that only al-Qaeda terrorism and Iranian nuclear proliferation are greater menaces to the country’s safety than Russia.

The services are understood to fear that Russia’s three main intelligence agencies have flooded the country with agents, The Times understands.

There is reported to be deep irritation within the services that vital resources are having to be diverted to deal with industrial and military espionage by the Russians.

The disclosures come as Mr Brown prepares to hold his first meeting with Mr Medvedev on Monday amid rising anger about Russia’s treatment of foreign investors such as BP.

Russian agents were accused of the murder of the émigré Alexander Litvinenko in London, as well as other attempted killings, and relations between the two countries have deteriorated fast, culminating in a row between Tony Blair and Vladimir Putin, the former President, at the G8 summit last year.

As Mr Brown and Mr Medvedev prepare to meet in Hokkaido, Japan, on Monday before the opening of this year’s G8, Russia has displayed signs of wanting to end the rift with Britain. In an interview with foreign correspondents Mr Medvedev said that international relations always required people to come together.

Reflecting the sensitivity of the encounter, senior British officials declined to give details of the issues that Mr Brown intends to raise, clearly not wanting to raise the temperature in advance. One said: “We will talk about that meeting after it has happened.”

He added that the Government agreed with Mr Medvedev’s comments about international relations and that Mr Brown looked forward to a “constructive discussion”.

Mr Brown seems certain, however, to raise the continuing fallout from the Litvinenko killing, the heightened tension between the security services, and the treatment of BP and its staff in Russia. The FSB, the successor agency to the KGB, raided the Moscow offices of BP and a joint venture, TNK-BP, this year.

The Prime Minister will use his first G8 summit to call on his colleagues to do more to meet their pledges to double aid to Africa. British officials said that the G8 was not on track to meet commitments made at the Gleneagles summit in 2005 to double aid to £50 billion a year worldwide and aid to Africa to £25 billion.

They expect the summit to reaffirm that commitment - although the words are not yet in the summit communiqué - but officials said that several G8 countries were not meeting their targets, and only Britain, the United States and Germany were doing so.

Mr Brown will say that the richer countries should be doing more at a time of economic downturn as part of the overall solution to the problems facing the world, including food and oil prices. “Too many donors are not keeping the promises they made,” a senior official said.

Mr Brown wants a G8 commitment to helping countries to increase the number of health workers to 2.3 per 1,000 people and providing $60 billion (£30 billion) for health over a set period. He and other leaders want the summit to give much-needed momentum to the world trade talks, which are close to failure.

Appearing before a Commons committee yesterday, Mr Brown spoke of the “great responsibility” on the leaders of the G8 to pave the way for a deal by trade ministers at a crucial meeting on July 21. Mr Brown said: “We are a few minutes before midnight. If we can’t get a trade deal within the next few weeks it may elude us for many, many months, if not longer.

“I think we have got to show, in a world that is becoming increasingly protectionist, that we are capable of standing up to that and show that the world is capable of reaching an agreement on trade.”

Mr Brown made plain that his old adversary Peter Mandelson, the EU Trade Commissioner, had his full confidence in his battle with President Sarkozy of France over his handling of the trade talks.

Pascal Lamy, the director-general of the World Trade Organisation, said yesterday that an agreement on the main points of the world trade liberalisation talks was “feasible” this month, despite the pessimism surrounding the round and significant reservations on the part of France, which holds the EU’s rotating presidency.

“I called for a ministerial meeting because I think it is feasible [to come to a framework agreement] but it is not a done deal,” he said.

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November 2006 Alexander Litvinenko, a former Russian security officer and fierce critic of the Kremlin, dies in a London hospital after being poisoned

May 2007 Russia refuses a British request to hand over the prime suspect in the killing, Andrei Lugovoi, a former KGB officer who is now a Russian MP

July 2007 Britain expels four Russian diplomats in response to refusal to extradite Mr Lugovoi

July 2007 Boris Berezovsky, the exiled Russian billionaire, claims that British intelligence thwarted a plot to kill him

August 2007 President Putin reinstates Cold War-style long-range air patrols by strategic bombers

April 2008 The MoD reveals that RAF fighter jets have been scrambled at least 21 times in 12 months to respond to Russian military aircraft encroaching on Nato airspace
and because of Russia being a serious threat, Russian spies leaving the door open for terrorists in Britain
The distraction of combating espionage by President Dmitry Medvedev's agents makes it significantly more likely that one of the many Islamist terror plots will succeed, Whitehall officials believe.

The warning comes after it was revealed last week that Russia is now considered the third most serious threat facing the country. The "league table" of threats to the nation's security is headed by al'Qa'eda terrorism, with Iranian nuclear proliferation second.

Britain has raised the problem posed by Russian agents at diplomatic levels, but the concerns were dismissed. "The Government has spoken to Moscow and asked them to stop but their response is 'everyone spies on everyone [else]'," one senior security source said.

"MI5's resources have been stretched to the limit for the past few years. There have been times when there was nothing left in the locker, when all of our assets were being used on one operation.

"At the same time, we have to contend with the very real threat being posed by the Russians. Russia is a country which is under suspicion of committing murder on British streets and it must be assumed that having done it once they will do it again."

The source said MI5 was so stretched that some recent counter-terrorist operations against Muslim extremists had used up its entire surveillance resources, meaning other areas of security and intelligence work had inevitably suffered.

Gordon Brown will meet Mr Medvedev for the first time tomorrow. It is not known if the Prime Minister will raise his irritation about the levels of industrial and military espionage by the Russians.

Such a move would worsen the already cool relations between the two countries which resulted in a row between Tony Blair and the former Russian president Vladimir Putin at the G8 summit last year.

However, in an interview in Hokkaido, Japan – the venue for this year's G8 summit – Mr Medvedev showed signs of wanting to end the rift, saying international relations required people to come together.

The Russian intelligence services, the prime suspects behind the murder in London of Alexander Litvin­enko, the former KGB agent, are believed to have a network of some 30 spies operating in Britain.

The agents, equivalent to one in five of the Moscow government officials based in Britain, are known to be monitoring the movements and activities of Russian émigrés and opponents of the regime. But they are also targeting businessmen, MPs and scientists looking to steal commercial and state secrets. Only in America, it is understood, are there more Russian agents.

One security source said: "Russia has a spy culture that predates the communist regime. The FSB [Federal Security Bureau] is just as active as the KGB was during the Cold War. They have a policy of state-sponsored assassination and they pose a very credible threat. They want to steal our secrets. They have an insatiable appetite for anything to do with arms manufacture and energy."

In July last year, Britain expelled four Russian diplomats after a request to extradite the prime suspect in the Litvinenko murder case was refused by the Russians. Since the suicide bombing attacks on London in July 2005, the security budget covering MI5 (the security service), MI6 (the intelligence service) and GCHQ, the eavesdropping centre, has risen by 65 per cent to more than £2billion this year.

Security officials say the threat of a terrorist outrage remains as high as it was in 2005 when London's transport system was attacked.
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What the fuck? Since when did Frontal Aviation start basing with Tacnukes in Saxony again? *severe sarcasm* I mean, seriously, it's not like there's a half a dozen Echo's and a Yankee Sidecar waiting to paper the UK in nukes anymore.. The British overreaction to the unproveable assertions they themselves made over the Polonium Affair is just getting sillier.
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Oh wow, first the Australians make US domestic politics look sane, and now the United Kingdom is making American foreign policy look sane. What the hell is going wrong with the world?
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Moscow sends bombers (or "missile carriers" as they apparently call them in Russian) flanking British airspace on a semi-regular basis for the 1st time since the Cold War, it gets considerable press coverage on Western media and people are surprised Russia ends up as a perceived as a result? I'm sorry if I should act surprised but I'm not and this doesn't make British citizens voicing such an opinion crazy in the slightest IMHO.

But if any blame need go anywhere shouldn't it go to the press covering it in a manner which deliberately tried to raise alarm? I wouldn't know simply cause I don't see much local coverage of it such as Channel Four or the BBC. (I have seen some clips on YouTube)
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Adrian Laguna wrote:Oh wow, first the Australians make US domestic politics look sane, and now the United Kingdom is making American foreign policy look sane. What the hell is going wrong with the world?
Maybe America was sane all along and everyone else is just different, shifting blends of crazy?
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Adrian Laguna wrote:Oh wow, first the Australians make US domestic politics look sane, and now the United Kingdom is making American foreign policy look sane. What the hell is going wrong with the world?
They made us afraid to go into trendy sushi bars ever again. They deserve to pay.

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It's depressing to see that American conservatives aren't the only people crazy enough to think the Cold War didn't end with the fall of the Soviet Union, especially considering how insignificant the UK is now compared to its status as a "very important ally of the United States" during those times.
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This year's county debate Championship resolution was "Is Russia a threat to US interests?"

The Pro team ended up with a huge advantage, and our team won every round where we were Pro, and lost every Con round. Simple fact is: it's always easier to argue that something is a threat then to argue that it's not a threat. It takes just a few seconds to say "Russia has millions of nukes pointed at the US therefore they are a threat", but the con team needs quite a bit of time to show that that does not constitute a threat.
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Swedish snoop law targets Russia

Published: 9 Jul 08 08:33 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/12922/

Sweden's new surveillance law will enable the National Defence Radio Establishment (FRA) to scan massive quantities of Russian computer and telecom data, Svenska Dagbladet reports.


Information gleaned by the signal intelligence agency can then be used as currency when trading data with other western countries.

Despite the headaches the bill has caused since entering parliament in 2007, the government has never revealed the true purpose of the law, SvD writes.

Several sources close to the Swedish intelligence community told the newspaper that the controversial new eavesdropping law was primarily intended to keep track of Russian communications.

"Our geographical position means that 80 percent of Russia's contacts with large parts of the world travel through cables in Sweden. That is the core of the issue," said one source.

"The most important reason for the law is that the government, the Armed Forces and other agencies need intelligence about Russia."

But neither former Prime Minister Göran Persson nor his successor Fredrik Reinfeldt have mentioned Sweden's desire to listen in on the neighbours.

FRA in its turn has wanted to keep its intentions quiet for as long as possible to prevent Russia from rerouting its computer and telecommunications systems.

Swedish-Finnish telecom giant TeliaSonera owns one of the world's largest fiber-optic cable networks, and company maps confirm that the vast majority of all cable traffic to and from Russia crosses Sweden's borders, SvD reports.

All Russian email and telephone calls, for example, pass through Sweden, regardless of whether the recipient is located in Berlin, Hong Kong, Kiev or New York. And 85 percent of Europe's broadband customers are connected in some way to TeliaSonera's network.

The new surveillance law will require all Swedish telecom operators to store any communications passing Swedish borders and make them available for FRA's perusal at collection nodes located at various points around the country.

TeliaSonera said it was currently considering ways to circumvent Sweden.

"Our aim is for international traffic and transit traffic to bypass Sweden," Malin Frenning, CEO of TeliaSonera International Carrier, told SvD.

But to construct a new network outside of Sweden would cost the company a lot of time and money. And there is also a risk that communications would then pass through other countries that have created laws similar to Sweden's, such as the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and Germany.
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They must be seriously joking to think that the Russians won't take advantage of that. Why, the land of the hackers can't produce enough hackers to do a tit for tat?
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Sidewinder wrote:It's depressing to see that American conservatives aren't the only people crazy enough to think the Cold War didn't end with the fall of the Soviet Union, especially considering how insignificant the UK is now compared to its status as a "very important ally of the United States" during those times.
Are you kidding? Russophobia has existed in many parts of the European continent, dating as far back as the 1800s when Russia was flexing its muscles and even before.
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But...but...I thought we already WON the Cold War! Why are those damn Ruskies trying to start it up again! :(

that was sarcasm.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:What the fuck? Since when did Frontal Aviation start basing with Tacnukes in Saxony again? *severe sarcasm* I mean, seriously, it's not like there's a half a dozen Echo's and a Yankee Sidecar waiting to paper the UK in nukes anymore.. The British overreaction to the unproveable assertions they themselves made over the Polonium Affair is just getting sillier.
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