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New Texas Computer Law

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When I was sent this story, I searched frantically for the Onion article...no such luck. I wasn't sure if this was G&C or N&P...

Let me preface this by reminding everyone that this comes from the government that Bush got his feet wet with...

Texas Law Says Only PI’s Can Repair Computers
AUSTIN, TX–The Institute for Justice—the nation’s leading litigators for entrepreneurs who find their rights violated by the government—opened its new Texas Chapter this week by filing a lawsuit against the Texas Private Security Board, a state agency, on behalf of computer repair shops that are being told they need a private investigator’s license to continue solving their customers’ computer problems.

Under the new law enacted in 2007, Texas has put computer repair shops on notice that they had better watch their backs any time they work on a computer. If a computer repair technician without a government-issued private investigator’s license takes any actions that the government deems to be an “investigation,” they may be subject to criminal penalties of up to one year in jail and a $4,000 fine, as well as civil penalties of up to $10,000. The definition of “investigation” is very broad and encompasses many common computer repair tasks.

To get a private investigator’s license, owners of computer repair shops would have to close their business while they either obtained a criminal justice degree or completed a three-year apprenticeship under a licensed P.I.

But the repair shops are not the only ones at risk. The law also criminalizes consumers who knowingly use an unlicensed company to perform any repair that constitutes an investigation in the eyes of the government. Consumers are subject to the same harsh penalties as the repair shops they use: criminal penalties of up to one year in jail and a $4,000 fine, and civil penalties of up to $10,000—just for having their computer repaired by an unlicensed technician.

The newly launched Institute for Justice Texas Chapter (IJ-TX) is challenging the new law under the Texas Constitution by filing a lawsuit in Travis County against the Private Security Board on behalf of Texas computer repair companies and their customers.

Mike Rife, one of the plaintiffs in the suit, operates AustinPCTech, a company he started more than 10 years ago. Rife has hundreds of satisfied customers and his business is thriving. Rife now operates under a cloud of uncertainty about which repairs the government will allow him to perform for his customers.

David Norelid, another plaintiff, is co-owner of Citronix Tech Services in Houston. Norelid started Citronix in Florida before moving to Texas to pursue his degree in information technology management. Norelid said, “If I was required to get a P.I. license to run my business, I’d have to shut my business down.” The flexibility of being an entrepreneur allows him to work full time while going to school.

Rife and Norelid do not doubt their ability to compete with so-called “big box” competitors in the computer repair business. What they cannot compete with is a government-created cartel that demands they close their businesses and complete a three-year apprenticeship under a licensed private investigator to get a state-required license—or risk jail time and large monetary penalties if they continue serving their customers without one.

Thane Hayhurst owns and operates Kiwi Computer Services and iTalent Consulting Group, both in Dallas. Kiwi Computer is a traditional do-it-all computer repair company that Hayhurst has operated in Dallas since 1992. More recently, Hayhurst opened iTalent Consulting, which offers IT outsourcing services to many prominent local businesses. iTalent sends employees on assignments (some lasting for many months) to clients’ businesses where the consultant works to implement on-site computer and IT solutions. Both of Hayhurst’s businesses are impacted by the new law because he and his employees are not licensed private investigators.

Hayhurst is worried the government will decide he can no longer offer many of the services he currently provides to his clients. Hayhurst said, “There are thousands of computer contractors performing valuable services for almost every organization in Texas, and this law will hinder their ability to remain gainfully employed.”

Joining the computer repair companies as a plaintiff in this case is consumer Erle Rawlins, who frequently uses independent computer repair shops to keep his Dallas-based real estate buyer agency business running. Rawlins said, “This law is totally unfair. It requires using someone who is more expensive and may not be as good, and it uses government power to limit the number of competitors who are out there. It is bad for consumers and it is bad for entrepreneurs.”

The filing of this case marks the launch of IJ-TX in Austin. Lead attorney on the case is IJ-TX Executive Director Matt Miller. Miller said, “Texas is working hard to bring technology innovators to our state. Yet the government is now telling them they need to get a private investigator’s license if they want to continue working here. That is not an effective strategy to grow our technology talent pool.”

Miller concluded, “It makes no sense to require a computer repairman with 10 or 20 years of experience to get a degree in criminal justice just to continue working in his occupation. This law will drive up the price of computer repair for everyone, and that’s exactly what the private investigations industry wants.”

The Institute for Justice is a public interest law firm that advances a rule of law under which individuals can control their destinies as free and responsible members of society. IJ has additional chapters in Arizona, Minnesota and Washington state. IJ-TX litigates under the state and federal constitutions to reinvigorate economic liberty, preserve property rights, promote educational choice and defend the free flow of information essential to politics and commerce. 6-27-08
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No fucking way this flies past any set of judges with their heads screwed on right, just on the grounds of how vague the law is worded.
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I might be missing the obvious, but what was the purpose of targeting computer repair people in the first place? Was there some burning need to bring the computer repair industry to heel? Was the PI lobby pushing for this sort of legislation? Is "investigative" computer repair merely the unfortunate victim of over-zealously interpreted legislation?

I ask only because I don't get the answer to my question from reading the OP, unless it's the default "morons making stupid laws" explanation.
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SCRawl wrote:I might be missing the obvious, but what was the purpose of targeting computer repair people in the first place? Was there some burning need to bring the computer repair industry to heel? Was the PI lobby pushing for this sort of legislation? Is "investigative" computer repair merely the unfortunate victim of over-zealously interpreted legislation?

I ask only because I don't get the answer to my question from reading the OP, unless it's the default "morons making stupid laws" explanation.
The only possible justification I can see is computer repair people snooping around hard drive contents that they aren't supposed to be looking at, perhaps confidential documents. Either way it's a completely retarded, and overly vague law.
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General Zod wrote:
SCRawl wrote:I might be missing the obvious, but what was the purpose of targeting computer repair people in the first place? Was there some burning need to bring the computer repair industry to heel? Was the PI lobby pushing for this sort of legislation? Is "investigative" computer repair merely the unfortunate victim of over-zealously interpreted legislation?

I ask only because I don't get the answer to my question from reading the OP, unless it's the default "morons making stupid laws" explanation.
The only possible justification I can see is computer repair people snooping around hard drive contents that they aren't supposed to be looking at, perhaps confidential documents. Either way it's a completely retarded, and overly vague law.
Another possibility is to either force independent computer repair techs to pay an onerous P.I. license fee on top of their business license to operate, or simply to drive the small fry out of business in favour of the larger repair businesses. Shit like this is riven throughout the business regulations in the South.
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We can only hope that the judges involved will indeed do the only right thing.

If this gets passed, then the shitter that the country's going down is getting greased. :x
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I don't think it is very hard to get a law passed here in Texas. Especially when it comes to something about the average person has little knowledge of.
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This is being discussed over at slashdot

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Read the entire law. .

Sec. 1702.104 defines an "investigations company". A person acts as an investigations company if he engages in the business of obtaining or furnishing, or accepts employement to obtain or furnish information related to crimes or activity of a person, or location of stolen property, or cause for a fire, libel, etc.

A computer repair business in not in the business of doing any of that. They aren't in the business of obtaining information regarding crimes, they are in the computer repair business. The information they gather is "what doesn't work".

It is 1702.104(b) that seems to be troublesome because it talks about "computer-based data not available to the public."

The fact that 1702.104(b) defines what obtaining information means is irrelevant, since (a)(1) doesn't apply to a computer repair business to start with. Defining what obtaining data means doesn't change the limitations on who 1702.104(a)(1) applies to. It expands the activities of the people who are covered by (a)(1) to include computer searches.

If you start a business tailored specifically to PI's and forensic analysis, say fixing broken computers with the explicit intent of getting the data off of them to determine crimes, cause of fires, etc, then yes, you need a PI license. If you are just replacing a defective CPU or disk, no. You are not in the business of obtaining information listed in (a)(1).

In short, it all revolves around the phrase "in the business of".

This law is a good thing. It may be possible to sue a "computer repair company" that does, as a matter of regular business, "investigate" the content of your computer when you take it in for repair. They've made themselves "in the business of" by looking for information related to crimes. But Joe Technician who sticks to finding the bad bits and replacing them has nothing to worry about. And if you are stupid enough to make kiddie porn the splash logo on your boot screen, or background image after an auto-login, Joe is still able to call the cops, since his job isn't obtaining the information, YOU gave it to him by your actions.
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