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I know of afroamerican holes and I know of black holes, and I also know they are not one and the same.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:Odd. Combined science is mandatory at this level here. You need maths, English and science to leave school with any real degree of credibility.
Oh everyone got science, just no one was really required to take physics. Same sort of thing with math, though we all got 4 years of English. Strangely, to me, we didn't get much Economics, just a single semester; same with Health. What else? 2 years of PE. A semester of Political Science. The rest was all optional courses.

That's all I really remember being required, but my memory of the particulars isn't especially fresh, nor have I gone out of my way to remember beyond the big stuff so get out your salt shaker.
Just for comparison purposes, my high school diploma (in Ontario, Canada, 1984-1989) included two years of math, five of english, two of science (which was a mish-mash of the natural sciences), one of french, one of phys-ed, one of any senior social science, one of art (or music), one of history, and one of geography, plus enough other stuff to make 30 credits. (The fifth year was effectively a university prep year, and isn't offered anymore.)
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Ok, so now a cake named after angels because there seems to be nothing to it it has to be heavenly is racist too. Now a cake named for devils because it's so dense and tastes so good it has to be sinful is racist because chocolate is dark.

This jerk is just looking for way to be offended now. He is just simply trying very hard to be an all out pain in the butt.

The level of silliness is now officially off the scale now.

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Oh wow I thought that it had to be something from the onion or daily squid because it was too perfectly comical with the entire white hole come back. The guy is just retarded and is now trying to whip out strawmans.
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ArmorPierce wrote:Oh wow I thought that it had to be something from the onion or daily squid because it was too perfectly comical with the entire white hole come back. The guy is just retarded and is now trying to whip out strawmans.
You've never actually met a black person with a massive chip on their shoulder just looking for an excuse to start hurling obscenities before have you? (Or any massive racist asshole for that matter?) There's really nothing at all surprising about this.
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Astronomy. a theoretical massive object, formed at the beginning of the universe or by the gravitational collapse of a star exploding as a supernova, whose gravitational field is so intense that no electromagnetic radiation can escape.
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Black Hole
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1. Also called Black Hole of Cal·cut·ta. a small prison cell in Fort William, Calcutta, in which, in 1756, Indians are said to have imprisoned 146 Europeans, only 23 of whom were alive the following morning.
2. (lowercase) any usually wretched place of imprisonment or confinement.
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1. An area of space-time with a gravitational field so intense that its escape velocity is equal to or exceeds the speed of light.
2. A great void; an abyss: The government created a bureaucratic black hole that swallows up individual initiative.


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in astrophysics is from 1968, probably with awareness of Black Hole of Calcutta, incident of 1756 in which 146 Europeans were locked up overnight in punishment cell of barracks at Ft. William, Calcutta, and all but 23 perished.

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a region of space resulting from the collapse of a star; extremely high gravitational field

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An extremely dense celestial object whose gravitational field is so strong that not even light can escape from its vicinity. Black holes are believed to form in the aftermath of a supernova with the collapse of the star's core. See also event horizon, See more at star.

Our Living Language : When a very massive star ends its life in a supernova explosion, the remaining matter collapses in upon itself. If there is enough mass in this collapsed star, it becomes a black hole. A black hole is so dense that its gravitational forces are strong enough to prevent anything that comes close enough to the region known as the event horizon from escaping. Even light cannot escape, since the escape velocity (the velocity needed for an object to escape some larger object's gravitational field) necessary to escape a black hole is greater than the speed of light. Black holes are extremely dense: for the Sun, which has a diameter of about 1,390,000 kilometers (862,000 miles), to be as dense as a black hole, its entire mass would have to be squeezed down to a ball fewer than 3 kilometers (5 miles) across. Some theorists postulate that the material in a black hole may be compressed to a single point of infinite density called a singularity. Because astronomers cannot directly observe a black hole, they infer its existence from the effects of its gravitational pull. For example, when a black hole results from the collapse of one star in a binary star system, it attracts material from the remaining star. This material forms an accretion disk, which compresses and heats up until it emits detectable x-rays. Black holes are thought to reside in the centers of many galaxies, including our own Milky Way.


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In astronomy, an object so massive that nothing, not even light, can escape its gravitation. Black holes were given their name because they absorb all the light that falls on them. The existence of black holes was first predicted by the general theory of relativity. Supermassive black holes have been found in the centers of many galaxies. Stellar black holes are thought to arise from the death of very massive stars. Astronomers expect to find many stellar black holes in the Milky Way.

Note: Figuratively, the term black hole is used to refer to a total disappearance: “They never saw the man again — he might as well have fallen into a black hole.


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1. An expression which depends on its own value or a technique to detect such expressions. In graph reduction, when the reduction of an expression is begun, the root of the expression can be overwritten with a black hole. If the expression depends on its own value, e.g.
x = x + 1
then it will try to evaluate the black hole which will usually print an error message and abort the program. A secondary effect is that, once the root of the expression has been black-holed, parts of the expression which are no longer required may be freed for garbage collection.
Without black holes the usual result of attempting to evaluate an expression which depends on itself would be a stack overflow. If the expression is evaluated successfully then the black hole will be updated with the value.
Expressions such as
ones = 1 : ones
are not black holes because the list constructor, : is lazy so the reference to ones is not evaluated when evaluating ones to WHNF.
2. Where an electronic mail message or news aritcle has gone if it disappears mysteriously between its origin and destination sites without returning a bounce message. Compare bit bucket.
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n.,vt. [common] What data (a piece of email or netnews, or a stream of TCP/IP packets) has fallen into if it disappears mysteriously between its origin and destination sites (that is, without returning a bounce message). "I think there's a black hole at foovax!" conveys suspicion that site foovax has been dropping a lot of stuff on the floor lately (see drop on the floor). The implied metaphor of email as interstellar travel is interesting in itself. Readily verbed as `blackhole': "That router is blackholing IDP packets." Compare bit bucket aand see RBL.

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I played the clip to a friend who's 'black' and he said the man is an idiot.

He then added that he wants a slice of Devil's Food Cake now. :evil:
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Isolder74 wrote:Seems the dictionary is racist.
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Isolder74 wrote:I played the clip to a friend who's 'black' and he said the man is an idiot.
That's not really saying much to be honest.
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Isolder74 wrote:I played the clip to a friend who's 'black' and he said the man is an idiot.

He then added that he wants a slice of Devil's Food Cake now. :evil:
why did you put black in quotation marks? Is he faking it or something?
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ArmorPierce wrote:
Isolder74 wrote:I played the clip to a friend who's 'black' and he said the man is an idiot.

He then added that he wants a slice of Devil's Food Cake now. :evil:
why did you put black in quotation marks? Is he faking it or something?
As an adjective, is it really a very descriptive term for any variety of human? I mean, they're not really black, by any reasonable definition. We all know what you mean when you use that label, and that's why some use it. Some people don't, and maybe that's why he put it in quotes. Or maybe there's another reason.
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ArmorPierce wrote:
Isolder74 wrote:I played the clip to a friend who's 'black' and he said the man is an idiot.

He then added that he wants a slice of Devil's Food Cake now. :evil:
why did you put black in quotation marks? Is he faking it or something?
Because I'm not sure how else to refer to it. I can't call him African American, he's from Jamaica.
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African-American is a retarded phrase. The guy is black, regardless of how deep the colour of the skin tone is.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:African-American is a retarded phrase. The guy is black, regardless of how deep the colour of the skin tone is.
By applying that logic, couldn't the same thing be said for all the other "politcally correct" terms that refer to other races.
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Schuyler Colfax wrote: By applying that logic, couldn't the same thing be said for all the other "politcally correct" terms that refer to other races.
Which would those be? As a matter of logical thinking, African-American is redundant in a great variety of cases by virtue of the vast majority of such ethnicities not being Statesiders.

I've heard the term used to describe black people in the UK. I cannot fathom how they got away with that in their minds.
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Schuyler Colfax wrote: By applying that logic, couldn't the same thing be said for all the other "politcally correct" terms that refer to other races.
Which would those be? As a matter of logical thinking, African-American is redundant in a great variety of cases by virtue of the vast majority of such ethnicities not being Statesiders.

I've heard the term used to describe black people in the UK. I cannot fathom how they got away with that in their minds.
I was trying to agree with you in a way but, it just came out wrong. I was thinking about how caucasian is always white and asian is yellow but, then I realized you can't refer to someone from India or Bangladesh as yellow. I spoke before I realizing what the point I was trying to make was. Just forget about it.
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I guess you could refer to where the phenotype arose from, be it Africa, Caucasus or wherever, but then you still fall into the trap of mixed origins. Calling someone black or white, however, is not derogatory unlike yellow, for instance.
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I think the conflated race/nation things are all funny. 'I was born in America, but I'm really African/Italian/Chinese' etc. Nobody would refer to me as a 'Kiwi-Australian'; I live in Australia, I was born in New Zealand, and I'm Scots-Welsh by descent. 95% of that information isn't worth mentioning most of the time - I mean, I could talk about how my forefathers were fucking Picts until the damn Cymri showed up, but who cares?

I'm not sure, but it seems to be a way of 'singling out' ethnic minorities in a country. People might hate 'the Irish' or whatever, so 'Irish Americans' who were born, raised and live in America come under 'the Irish'. I guess it's just a sign that race is important to people in a way I don't understand... even though I know plenty of Australians of asian descent (for example) for whom Australia is the only home or culture they know.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:I guess you could refer to where the phenotype arose from, be it Africa, Caucasus or wherever, but then you still fall into the trap of mixed origins. Calling someone black or white, however, is not derogatory unlike yellow, for instance.
The whole race relations thing is very confusing which is mainly why I try to avoid the subject.
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Schuyler Colfax wrote:The whole race relations thing is very confusing which is mainly why I try to avoid the subject.
It's hilarous in Australia, where there's a significant level of racism against those of asian descent... even though many of those families have been in Australia since the 19th century, and the racists themselves may have moved here from Europe in the 50s. Who's really 'Australian' in this case, lol?

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As a fellow African American, let me just say that this dude is an idiot. And by this, I mean an idiocy running both ways.

Even if the "Black" was referring to "Us People" as my dad sometimes puts it, what's so bad about having an unstoppable force that bends even the stars to its will named after us? :Mrgreen:
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ArmorPierce wrote:I have a feeling that the story isn't true. It's just too comical with the whole white-hole remark and all.
It is true I live in Dallas and Price has been this way for as long as I can remember.
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NOW we have justification to get Blackwater booted from Iraq for good! The only hitch in the plan is getting the Rev. Jesse Jackson out of the insane asylum. We might also want to moiblize Anonymous too. Seriously though, how is tha a racist comment? It's not like he added words like "ass" to the beginning of "hole". Anything "black" is an attack?
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