Qui Gon dismisses blockade in Phantom Menace

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Ender wrote:
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Sea Skimmer wrote:Considering the Death Star could be built in secret in just a few years 10,000 of those ships might be more like .001% of the Trade Federation fleet

Yep and since the US Military designed and built the B-2 in secrecy we can all assume that Home Depot has its own aircraf carrier.
Sarcasm fails in the face of the fact that we know they were building their own Death Star along with the rest of the Separatists.
No they built the bre frame which was nothing more than a bare frame years later at the end of the war.
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Ender wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I don't get the impression that the TradeFed donuts are capable warships. In AOTC, there was a fleet of donut ships in orbit and the Republic ships apparently brushed them aside so easily that they were able to plunge straight down into the atmosphere and start deploying gunships before anyone on the ground even knew they were coming.

In the ROTS battle, it seems to be other types of CIS ships which are doing the heavy lifting.
The assumption comes from a raw power POV. The coreship alone generates as much power as a Venator or Victory class, and it has 3 other major reactors and a suite of minor ones. In terms of output, it is definitely in the star cruiser range. The question is how effectively it can channel that power to its guns, bu even if the rigging only allows them to throw 1/3rd of that power at the enemy they are still pretty potent. And we know that they were steadily upgraded with more and heavier guns to allow them to dedicate more of that power to the weapons.

That the other ships were more active and prolific is one of those facts that cuts both ways - it could be because the battleships are crap and they do most of the fighting, or it could be because the battleships are the heavy hitters and they are supporting them. Without more info about the battleships, we can't say.

The Trade Fed ships were also quite large and of a poor shape. Which means even if you are putting out more power than a Venetor you are spending alot more of that power on shielding.

Finally that poor shape means you cannot get nearly as many guns on target as you can with a more common Venetor, ISD dagger shape.
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Timotheus wrote:
Ender wrote:
Timotheus wrote:
Yep and since the US Military designed and built the B-2 in secrecy we can all assume that Home Depot has its own aircraf carrier.
Sarcasm fails in the face of the fact that we know they were building their own Death Star along with the rest of the Separatists.
No they built the bre frame which was nothing more than a bare frame years later at the end of the war.
That they ran out of time constructing it in no way disproves my point. Private corporations in SW can build Death Star scale objects, which negates your assertion that those ships are at all significant.
The Trade Fed ships were also quite large and of a poor shape. Which means even if you are putting out more power than a Venetor you are spending alot more of that power on shielding.
Care to prove that the shields draw more then an insignificant portion of the power produced by the reactor? Or, just to make this easy, that the power they consume is so great that it significantly impairs their abilities?
Finally that poor shape means you cannot get nearly as many guns on target as you can with a more common Venetor, ISD dagger shape.
No, the layout and placement of weapons systems allow them to place more guns on target then the Venator has. In terms of percentage of total guns on the ship you are right, but the size of the Lucerhulk allows for more guns to be mounted overall, allowing more weapons systems to be brought to bear. Also note that larger dagger ships have a similar, almost haphazard, layout to their guns, with angles precluding a full range of fore and concentration for effect.
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Uh, about Qui Gon dismissing the whole thing... is this about his comments on how negotiations would be short? Because they were, and I mean that the Nemoidians had already given up before Sidious forced their hand.
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