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Schuyler Colfax wrote:No, it just annoys me when you post, so I'm saying shut up.
I'm glad you contributed! If only the adults could reply instead...
Schuyler Colfax wrote:I didn't mean to press submit and had more to say.
So... edit your post?
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Stark wrote:
Schuyler Colfax wrote:No, it just annoys me when you post, so I'm saying shut up.
I'm glad you contributed! If only the adults could reply instead...
Looks like you're the one that has forgotten how to read. I'll say it again shut up.
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So... edit your post?
I did.

So now that I'm done with the tard here, back to the topic at hand. So basically, new songs, new DLC, new modes, and expansions on current modes, sounds great it's definitely a must buy on my list.
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You had better be careful Stark, I hear there's a new Sheriff in town, and his name is Schulyer Colfax! He doesn't take any prisioners either, just like the last guy...

Anyways, their decision to make RB1 and RB2 almost identical, down to both supporting the same DLC, seems almost like shooting themselves in the foot as far as sales for RB2 is concerned.
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Lancer wrote:Anyways, their decision to make RB1 and RB2 almost identical, down to both supporting the same DLC, seems almost like shooting themselves in the foot as far as sales for RB2 is concerned.
How so? Sure, people don't need to buy it for the DLC if they already have the first, but that's 104 songs they're missing out on for less than a buck apiece as opposed to the $2 or so that songs usually cost for download.

Besides, they're not being dicks to the early adopters, which is a nice change of pace.
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Lancer wrote: Anyways, their decision to make RB1 and RB2 almost identical, down to both supporting the same DLC, seems almost like shooting themselves in the foot as far as sales for RB2 is concerned.
They have always said that they wanted to have DLC work on any sequels they released, and that is a GOOD thing.

The improvements they have made in RB2 fix almost every problem people had with the first one - online band tour, ability to make own setlists, etc.

You've never heard the adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"?
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Schuyler Colfax wrote:Looks like you're the one that has forgotten how to read. I'll say it again shut up./
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Making the games compatible is what GH should always have done from the start. Things like GH2 DLC being useless in GH3 was always lame and stupid, and RB2 fixing existing problems is worth it by itself. Indeed, it simply means there is now no reason whatever to buy RB1, since RB2 is better in all respects and you can use everything.
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I didn't say that intercompatibility was a bad thing for players, it just strikes me as a strange strategy for a company to pursue.
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Yeah, but in this case people will buy it anyway and the DLC is profit regardless of what version of RB they have.
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Re: metal and Rock Band

Let me clarify, I'm not saying it should be nothing but a pile of metal. A wide diversity of rock is great, I love lots of different music besides just my treasured heavy metal. The issue I have with RB1 (not including DLCs like Screaming for Vengeance) is that it's very, very, very short on music you can really sing to. We've had guitars for awhile thanks to GH and drums are drums are drums, but there are only a handful of decent songs on RB1 (and to a lesser extent, this RB2 list) that you can really go balls out on. If I'm not breaking my vocal chords on the cadenza vocal sections, they're not doing their job.

(Good) Metal and hard/classic rock usually provide an interesting vocal track. Singing "Maps" is fucking retarded and usually only good for a laugh, not if you really want to get into a singing part.

Also, Losonti baby, I love you but seriously hand in your fucking metal license for holding up SoaD as anything even remotely worthy of being metal.
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Brother-Captain Gaius wrote:Also, Losonti baby, I love you but seriously hand in your fucking metal license for holding up SoaD as anything even remotely worthy of being metal.
Look man it's not my fault they get classed that way.

Also yes Screaming for Vengeance is awesome but I barely get to play it since it seems none of the goddamn pubbies have downloaded it.

Or any songs for that matter, it kinda pisses me off having to play the on-disc songs only when I've got over 150 songs available.
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Lancer wrote:I didn't say that intercompatibility was a bad thing for players, it just strikes me as a strange strategy for a company to pursue.
Maybe if the company doesn't like their customers.
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Brother-Captain Gaius wrote:The issue I have with RB1 (not including DLCs like Screaming for Vengeance) is that it's very, very, very short on music you can really sing to. We've had guitars for awhile thanks to GH and drums are drums are drums, but there are only a handful of decent songs on RB1 (and to a lesser extent, this RB2 list) that you can really go balls out on. If I'm not breaking my vocal chords on the cadenza vocal sections, they're not doing their job.

(Good) Metal and hard/classic rock usually provide an interesting vocal track. Singing "Maps" is fucking retarded and usually only good for a laugh, not if you really want to get into a singing part.

(Good) Metal and hard/classic rock usually provide an interesting vocal track. Singing "Maps" is fucking retarded and usually only good for a laugh, not if you really want to get into a singing part.
Maybe, but it almost sounds like what you're saying is that "good singing = metal".

And truthfully, there are a whole bunch of songs in Rock Band's tracklist which are fun to sing.
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Stark wrote:
Schuyler Colfax wrote:Looks like you're the one that has forgotten how to read. I'll say it again shut up./
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Contrary to what you may belive, this isn't Testing, and acting like a petulant douchebag by spamming image macros on stolen bandwidth doesn't make you instacool, it makes you a petulant douchebag. If you don't want to read Starks posts, then feel free to leave. Otherwise, man up and deal with it.
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Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Maybe, but it almost sounds like what you're saying is that "good singing = metal".

And truthfully, there are a whole bunch of songs in Rock Band's tracklist which are fun to sing.
No no no no. I probably wasn't very clear.

I mean, this is a game called Rock Band, right? So why are half the songs whiny alternative/modern crap? I sit there going through the motions and just matching pitch as best I can, I get Overdrive and there's an Overdrive cadenza section, and... what am I supposed to sing there? La la la?

By contrast, let's take "Detroit Rock City". Not metal. When a cadenza comes up, I can really belt it out. Either a variation on the chorus ("Get up! GET DOWN!") or just a generic "YEEEAAAH!" in screaming falsetto. Y'know... rock star crap ("Sing it with me Atlanta!!!"). Which seems to me to be the whole point.

Am I making sense here?
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Hold it up for your band members so they can shout for you to cry some more.
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Yeah I guess you're making some sense, but it really sounds like you just want to yell into the mike more than actually sing.

And half the songs are "whiny alternative/modern crap" because a broad range of musical genres is going to appeal to a much larger commercial audience.

Sure there are going to be a lot of people buying the game because "oh shit, Motorhead/Metallica/KISS/Iron Maiden/etc are in it," but there's also going to be a lot of people buying it because "oh shit, Avenged Sevendust/Jethro Tull/Rush/Blondie/Devo/The Pixies/Fallout Boy are in it." There are a few songs/bands in RB1 that I don't like, and there are a few on the RB2 list I don't like either, but at the same time those songs are probably convincing other people that they want to get in on the Rock Band experience.
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Lancer wrote:Anyways, their decision to make RB1 and RB2 almost identical, down to both supporting the same DLC, seems almost like shooting themselves in the foot as far as sales for RB2 is concerned.
Actually, I'd say that the reverse is more likely to be true. Given the high price of the whole Rock Band package, updating it all after only a year and making all of the old instruments and DLC (of which there is a significant amount) redundant would probably put off enough people to hurt profitability, whereas if all those people need to do is buy a new disc only copy and maybe one of the new instruments if they think that's enough of an upgrade to the old one, they're much more likely to shift copies.
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Lancer wrote:Anyways, their decision to make RB1 and RB2 almost identical, down to both supporting the same DLC, seems almost like shooting themselves in the foot as far as sales for RB2 is concerned.
Actually, I'd say that the reverse is more likely to be true. Given the high price of the whole Rock Band package, updating it all after only a year and making all of the old instruments and DLC (of which there is a significant amount) redundant would probably put off enough people to hurt profitability, whereas if all those people need to do is buy a new disc only copy and maybe one of the new instruments if they think that's enough of an upgrade to the old one, they're much more likely to shift copies.
Not to mention the introduction of third-party controllers, like a full-sized Stratocaster and the ION Drum Kit, which could really rake in the money if made properly.
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Brother-Captain Gaius wrote: I mean, this is a game called Rock Band, right? So why are half the songs whiny alternative/modern crap? I sit there going through the motions and just matching pitch as best I can, I get Overdrive and there's an Overdrive cadenza section, and... what am I supposed to sing there? La la la?
So I guess you haven't been paying attention to the huge amount of classic rock that has been released for the game? Just today marked the release of an even dozen tracks by The Who.
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Seeing how the game comes out Sunday, figured I'd give this thread a bump instead of just making a new one.

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Anyone else grabbing it at midnight or day of? There's a band challenge for people that buy Rock Band 2 before 9AM Sunday to celebrate the midnight launch people, and another for anyone that buys it on launch day. There's also a special one that is probably pretty difficult for most people to participate in:
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I've never played RB, but I own and really enjoy sucking at GH3. With the new Guitar Hero coming out in a short while and being basically the same thing as RB, could someone 'splain the areas where the two upcoming titles really differ?
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Rock Band has four different instruments*. Guitar Hero has one.

*Two of them are guitars though.
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Vendetta wrote:Rock Band has four different instruments*. Guitar Hero has one.

*Two of them are guitars though.
Right, but the new Guitar Hero is gonna have 4.

Is that really the only difference? Is it just down which game has the more appealing tracklist?
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so will RB2 be availiable with the upgrade for the drums right away, or am I just dreaming up stuff?
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