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Catholics: Abuse victims "dwelling crankily on the past

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As referenced in the other thread - like the Catholic Church needs any help looking bad at the moment.

But yes, these pesky abuse victims and their families, they just need to get over it, after all, what's a bit of child-rape by an authority figure? If there was any justice, this guy would be on his way to a missionary posting in Saudi Arabia.
News.com.au wrote: Stop dwelling on sex abuse, says World Youth Day bishop

By Vincent Morello

July 16, 2008 02:40pm
Article from: AAP

PEOPLE should stop "dwelling crankily" on old wounds, Bishop Anthony Fisher said today as he faced questions about the Catholic Church's handling of Melbourne sisters repeatedly raped by a priest.

Bishop Fisher, who is World Youth Day (WYD) coordinator, today said the latest controversy was detracting from the celebration of WYD.

Emma Foster committed suicide earlier this year at the age of 26, while her sister Katherine drank heavily before being left disabled when hit by a drunk driver in 1999, ABC's Lateline reported last night.

Melbourne priest Kevin O'Donnell raped the girls while they were in primary school and died in prison about 10 years ago.

Cardinal George Pell, now the leader of the Catholic Church in Australia, was Melbourne Archbishop when the Fosters complained of the abuse, and they claim he stalled their compensation claim.

In 1998 the family rejected his offer of compensation and they spent eight years in a protracted legal battle before negotiating a settlement.

Tragic story - Pell

Cardinal Pell today said the story of Emma Foster was "tragic", and said he apologised to her and her family in 1998.

He said he was "very saddened'' and described the story as "one of the worst things that can happen for a young woman''.

He said although the events happened before his time as archbishop of Melbourne, he was involved in dealing with it.

"I apologised to Emma in 1998,'' he said before making an address at a World Youth Day event.

"I met with her parents. We offered them some financial help. We also offered them counselling.

"Emma availed herself of that counselling for 10 years and we contributed substantially towards those counselling costs.''

Personal audience

The girls' father, Anthony Foster, told Lateline he was on his way to Australia from Britain to seek a personal audience with the Pope and Dr Pell .

He said he would not accept a Papal apology to sexual abuse victims unless the Pope also changed the way the church and its lawyers dealt with those victims.

Fisher "disappointed"

Bishop Fisher said he was disappointed people were focusing on sexual abuse while the WYD festivities were taking place.

"I think most of Australia was enjoying, delighting in the beauty and goodness of these young people ... rather than dwelling crankily as a few people are doing on old wounds," he said.

"But I would have to say ... the cardinal has led in the church in this country in trying to put in better and better processes to deal for these things so that we get it right and, in the meantime, to do all we can to prevent this happening again and to bring healing and justice to the victims."
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Aren't these the same morons who still seem pissed about people killing Jesus a few thousand years ago? Perspective people, perspective.

Also, how many priests actually see jail time as opposed to a lot of court time? I keep hearing about payouts, but never jailtime.
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Man, he APOLOGISED. So clearly this is no longer evidence for systematic corruption!
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Stark wrote:Man, he APOLOGISED. So clearly this is no longer evidence for systematic corruption!
And a good Christian should forgive those sins and turn the other cheek!
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Gandalf wrote:Aren't these the same morons who still seem pissed about people killing Jesus a few thousand years ago? Perspective people, perspective.

Also, how many priests actually see jail time as opposed to a lot of court time? I keep hearing about payouts, but never jailtime.
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Gandalf wrote:Aren't these the same morons who still seem pissed about people killing Jesus a few thousand years ago? Perspective people, perspective.

Also, how many priests actually see jail time as opposed to a lot of court time? I keep hearing about payouts, but never jailtime.
Surely it makes sense that god is one hell of a lawyer...
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I say we should lock these people (the abusive priests and those covering for them) up and throw away the jail!

It pisses me off everytime they try to blame the victim or gays...
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PeZook wrote:
Stark wrote:Man, he APOLOGISED. So clearly this is no longer evidence for systematic corruption!
And a good Christian should forgive those sins and turn the other cheek!
You mean part their cheeks?
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The Catholic's hate the gays because the gays steal their thunder. Look at it. Both like wearing jewelry, both look fabulous in purple, and both like to ass-pound boys. The Catholics, as always though, have some chronology issues. They fucked up the Gregorian calender, and now all the priests are aiming a decade too young. :roll:
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Dark Hellion wrote:They fucked up the Gregorian calender, and now all the priests are aiming a decade too young. :roll:
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I know a few victims of child abuse (physical and verbal, but not sexual), so I know "getting over it" is NOT easily done. If Bishop Fisher wants to tell off victims of abuse, he should get first-hand experience on how it feels to be abused, and become a prison bitch for a few years.
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what the fuck.

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I'd say more, but this is really honestly such a disgrace that words fail me. It's really not a surprise that I am not a churchgoer anymore (Christmas and Easter, if even that).

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Don't you people get it. All this bad press isn't a matter of the RCC members being dicks, its clearly a case of Catholic Bashing by evil left wing secularists.

Listening to the apologists defending the priests comments make one sick. And people wonder why I hold the RCC in contempt.
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For what it's worth I apologize for Bishop Jackass' comments. I'm ashamed to be Catholic when things like this are said...
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In other news, cardinal George Pell performs the clerical equivalent of a facepalm.
The Age wrote:Sydney Archbishop Cardinal George Pell later intervened in the row fuelled on Wednesday by WYD spokesman Bishop Anthony Fisher, saying the case of one of two sisters raped by a Melbourne priest was "tragic".
Yeah. "Tragic" indeed.
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Dark Hellion wrote:The Catholic's hate the gays because the gays steal their thunder. Look at it. Both like wearing jewelry, both look fabulous in purple, and both like to ass-pound boys. The Catholics, as always though, have some chronology issues. They fucked up the Gregorian calender, and now all the priests are aiming a decade too young. :roll:
You better hope that everyone else who reads your post reads it all the way through. I got to 'and both like to ass-pound boys', and was ready to castrate you for calling gays child-molesters, before seeing the clarification two sentences later.
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I was using boys in the colloquial for all men. I didn't think about it at the time, but its definitely a dialect thing. No offense was meant to the gay community. Hopefully, the Catholic Church will eventually (I got my money on sometime in the 25,000s during the age of strife) get the courage to come out about themselves and add Fabulousness to the Beatitudes. :wink:
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Oni Koneko Damien wrote:You better hope that everyone else who reads your post reads it all the way through. I got to 'and both like to ass-pound boys', and was ready to castrate you for calling gays child-molesters, before seeing the clarification two sentences later.
An anyone that bitches about it will be told to go fuck themselves and read the full sentences after a good old round of SD style flaming.
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Invictus ChiKen wrote:For what it's worth I apologize for Bishop Jackass' comments. I'm ashamed to be Catholic when things like this are said...
We get it. You're sucking the Pope's cock again. Nobody gives a fuck, so you can stop grabbing for sympathy points.
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General Zod wrote:We get it. You're sucking the Pope's cock again. Nobody gives a fuck, so you can stop grabbing for sympathy points.
So what I can't apologize when someone in my church acts like a jackass and I feel genuinly ashamed by there actions?

Fuck you asshole!
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Invictus ChiKen wrote: So what I can't apologize when someone in my church acts like a jackass and I feel genuinly ashamed by there actions?

Fuck you asshole!
I apologize that was uncalled for.
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I love watching people do the quick-backpedal dance when they post something and immediately realize someone's about to flame the shit out of them. :lol:
Emma Foster committed suicide earlier this year at the age of 26, while her sister Katherine drank heavily before being left disabled when hit by a drunk driver in 1999, ABC's Lateline reported last night.

Melbourne priest Kevin O'Donnell raped the girls while they were in primary school and died in prison about 10 years ago.
"Dwelling crankily"? Really? I mean, really?

Aside from being an abhorrent thing to say, this is just bad PR from a Catholic perspective. They're trying to get rid of their image problem, which has leaked into popular culture to the point that you can hardly even mention Catholic priests in a large group without someone making a crack about little boys. Callous statements like Fisher's are not going to help them clean up their image.
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Invictus ChiKen wrote: So what I can't apologize when someone in my church acts like a jackass and I feel genuinly ashamed by there actions?

Fuck you asshole!
As hilarious as your overblown theatrics are, why the fuck should anyone care about an apology from someone when the guy they're apologizing for doesn't even know the person making the apology exists?
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General Zod wrote:As hilarious as your overblown theatrics are, why the fuck should anyone care about an apology from someone when the guy they're apologizing for doesn't even know the person making the apology exists?
What is overblown about apologizing for something you know is wrong?
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Invictus ChiKen wrote: What is overblown about apologizing for something you know is wrong?
Remind me again, what's the point in apologizing for something you didn't do personally? I sure as fuck don't feel a need to apologize every time a Democrat fucks up even though I'm in the same party. :roll:
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