YOU get to be a Time Lord!

[darthbob88]

There are WAY easier ways of making WAY more money with time travel.

The very idea of even NEEDING money when you've got a time machine is a bit strange to me, but I guess people are atavistic atheart.

How does my time machine run? What fuel does it need? More to the point, can I get this fuel at no cost? If yes, then I'm just going to spend my time cruising the timeline, otherwise, I need to pay to run my time buggy.

Also, who says I need this money for myself? There are a lot of worthy causes out there I could give it to, to say nothing of causes I found myself.

[Stark]

Oh fucking SHUT UP.

No, your TARDIS doesn't run on fucking diesel. Big surprise there. Yeah, you'll have to go to the TARDIS service station and pay for fuel, yeah, that's what you need 20th century money for!

And yeah, the best way to help people with a time machine is to fraudulently create money and donate to charity, you're right. There is no better, faster, more controlled or direct way of helping anyone. Imagine the diesel bills!

[darthbob88]

Oh fucking SHUT UP.

No, your TARDIS doesn't run on fucking diesel. Big surprise there. Yeah, you'll have to go to the TARDIS service station and pay for fuel, yeah, that's what you need 20th century money for!

And yeah, the best way to help people with a time machine is to fraudulently create money and donate to charity, you're right. There is no better, faster, more controlled or direct way of helping anyone. Imagine the diesel bills!

You're mocking me, aren't you?

No, I was not concerned about diesel, and the idea of running a time machine on anything less than nuclear power is absurd. The point remains; will I, at some point, need to refuel my TARDIS, or does its apparently magical power source run indefinitely? If the answer is yes, then I will need sufficient goods to purchase more fuel, which I can probably buy with Earthly cash. Otherwise, I will happily travel through history without so much as a plugged nickel for cash.

As for investing cash in banks and giving that cash to charities, that was the first method I could think of for making cash quickly and quietly, and that was the best purpose I could think of that would keep me and my TARDIS under the radar. If you have a better method or application, please, enlighten us. By my method, I can make tens of thousands of dollars in an hour of my time, which can help more people than I can.

With my TARDIS, I might very well be free of the chains of work and the need for cash. Unfortunately, this does not necessarily mean the people I interact with are also so liberated.

[Broomstick]

You refuel the TARDIS by parking it over that pesky rift in Cardiff. No need for cash.

[Lancer]

How powerful is the time travel device on the Tardis? Could it, say, transport a quarter of the people on Earth back in time by exactly one day, every day?

[darthbob88]

You refuel the TARDIS by parking it over that pesky rift in Cardiff. No need for cash.

Yeah, that just occurred to me, and I was just about to post it. Point conceded.

[darthbob88]

How powerful is the time travel device on the Tardis? Could it, say, transport a quarter of the people on Earth back in time by exactly one day, every day?

Quite possibly; while I only know of it taking passengers back in time, you could fit a large number of people in as cargo.

I have to ask, what the hell do you plan to do with this? Give 1/4 the world Groundhog Day syndrome?

[NecronLord]

A fully functioning (as the OP suggests) TARDIS doesn't even need rift power. Its power core recieves energy via some sort of projection of energy from the Eye of Harmony on Gallifrey, which charges its own miniature duplicate.

How powerful is the time travel device on the Tardis? Could it, say, transport a quarter of the people on Earth back in time by exactly one day, every day?

I don't think they've ever been used to do that, but the knowledge of the Time Lords (and assuming we're talking average Time Lord, that's actually somewhat better than the Doctor's knowledge) certainly includes time loops.

[Zixinus]

Besides Time Travel, what can the a TARDIS do?

[NecronLord]

Deflect moving neutron stars, counter the gravity of a black hole, warp strafe-planet-scatter (apocrythal) and (with some preparation) tow planet Earth a fair way across the universe in a minute.

On a more useful level, they can (normally) take you to any point in time and space, and translate spoken and written word (the producers have implied that one the recent occasions we've not seen that working, it's an audience thing; the characters still get a translation) from almost any language in the universe.

[Stark]

Besides Time Travel, what can the a TARDIS do?

Assuming it's not broken like the Doctor's, it either includes or can utilise most Time Lord science. Blow up a world across the universe, slap a time loop at the touch of a button, manipulate the time vortex, all kinds of ridiculous guff. The Doctor isn't well trained and his TARDIS is old and broken. Hell, you could probably materialise the TARDIS around the Earth and have the human race live on it's surface.

The best part is that you can detect and disrupt time travel experiments, to maintain your monopoly.

[Themightytom]

Thats right!



There are a few stipulations however!
Your Tardis can not leave Earths solarsystem, The Kypur Belt is as far as you can go!
Your Tardis can Not travel INTO the future from our current point in time. You can go into the pasat, and travel back to "Today" but you couldn;t travel to "Tomorrow" untill tomorrow had actually transpired.

SO! What do you do first?

I would like to go back in time and remove the stipulations, because I msut go to the future in order to find out who wins the world series so taht i can make my riches of of this knowledge.

Also i would like to see if we avoid killing ourselves off and destroying the planet.

[Vendetta]

There are WAY easier ways of making WAY more money with time travel.

The very idea of even NEEDING money when you've got a time machine is a bit strange to me, but I guess people are atavistic atheart.

Well, engaging in normal commerce is still going to be the best way to not attract unwanted attention, which although you could certainly deal with it, what with having a TARDIS and all, would be a terrible bore.

That said, all you need to do is drop off the day's Financial Times through your letterbox last week, and use your foreknowledge of the stock market to obtain enough ready cash to live comfortably.

[Stark]

Yeah, a single step establishing an enduring financial entity that you don't need to supervise is better than 'lol win at the races'. The idea of generating vast wealth without disrupting history is a bit daft, however; every investment is going to have a knock-on effect which will require suppression like any other paradox.

I'm not sure why people want such huge amounts of money, but they certainly don't have to earn it in such personally time-consuming ways.

[Straha]

All this "make a lot of money" talk is kind of confusing to me, because what are you going to do with it? Buy a house? The TARDIS is MASSIVE on the inside. It has Art Galleries, swimming pools, gardens, anything and everything you want on the inside and I imagine you can make factories to make new things at Time Lord standard as well. Buy computers? The TARDIS is more powerful than anything ever made by man. Cars? The TARDIS has had at least two cars, the Whomboile and Bessie. And if you use Scream of the Shalka as a guide a Zeppelin Hangar as well. With that what more could you want? Hell I bet the TARDIS could use its chameleon circuit to change into a boat, truck, etc. Food? Food's never been a problem with the TARDIS before and I'm willing to bet it has its own gardens and stocks. Clothes? See the TARDIS Wardrobe.

You know what I do? Go back to the dawn of human civilization. (Or before then even.) Point all my sensors towards Earth to catalogue the rise of Humanity from before the Ice Age. And then just sit back and enjoy the information and live like a decadent Time Lord king inside my own mansion of almost infinite size. And when I'm done or right bored. Either go through history and pick out interesting people to keep company and travel the world, or go to the end of the Oort cloud. Plant beacons begging for inter-stellar or inter-galactic rescue and then explore the rest of the universe.

[Patrick Degan]

Not only that, you'd think the TARDIS could produce just about any kind of currency you could imagine, indistinguishable to analysis methods of the 20th and 21st centuries as anything other than the genuine article. Power? I can travel in time, I've already got as much power as I could want and aren't subject to any authority. Luxury? The TARDIS has everything in it I could ever want or could produce with duplicators. Really, such visions of using time travel to set yourself up with obscene wealth or personal power are for infants.

My plan stands: the first thing I do is figure a way to cancel out the limiter protocol keeping me confined to Earth's timeline from present-to-past, and then it's out into the big wide universe. If I have the lifespan of a Time Lord and the knowledge in my head, I should be able to manage it on my own in a century or two.

[Drooling Iguana]

The thing is, even if travel into the future is prohibited there are ways to compensate for that. Sure, you may not be able to go beyond 2008, but if you could, say, prevent the dark age from happening and make the scientific revolution occur in the first millennium then 2008 is going to look a hell of a lot different than it does right now.

[avatarxprime]

Does the TARDIS have the ability to produce anything you want or is it simply that we've never seen the Doctor have to get anything already having it in the TARDIS? That could easily end up being the case that the Doctor is simply a packrat and chooses to hold onto everything. If the TARDIS can produce whatever food, clothing, etc you should desire then you wouldn't need any cash, if not you'd still need some at least at first to get yourself set up.

[Solauren]

Local Space and Time have just become my playground.

All of local space and time, up until this point...

What am I gonna do?

Anything I damn well want!

I always wondered what would happen if you dropped off say, 1000 Sea Scorpions into the Atlantic ocean, circa 1910.

[NecronLord]

The tardis had a machine in the first episodes, that produced food bars. Which somehow, tasted like different components of a meal, in different bites.

[Crossroads Inc.]

All this "make a lot of money" talk is kind of confusing to me, because what are you going to do with it? Buy a house? The TARDIS is MASSIVE on the inside. It has Art Galleries, swimming pools, gardens, anything and everything you want on the inside and I imagine you can make factories to make new things at Time Lord standard as well. Buy computers? The TARDIS is more powerful than anything ever made by man. Cars? The TARDIS has had at least two cars, the Whomboile and Bessie. And if you use Scream of the Shalka as a guide a Zeppelin Hangar as well. With that what more could you want? Hell I bet the TARDIS could use its chameleon circuit to change into a boat, truck, etc. Food? Food's never been a problem with the TARDIS before and I'm willing to bet it has its own gardens and stocks. Clothes? See the TARDIS Wardrobe.

You know what I do? Go back to the dawn of human civilization. (Or before then even.) Point all my sensors towards Earth to catalogue the rise of Humanity from before the Ice Age. And then just sit back and enjoy the information and live like a decadent Time Lord king inside my own mansion of almost infinite size. And when I'm done or right bored. Either go through history and pick out interesting people to keep company and travel the world, or go to the end of the Oort cloud. Plant beacons begging for inter-stellar or inter-galactic rescue and then explore the rest of the universe.

Good lord itsd taken neasrly 50 posts before someone Actually grasped the potential here. This isn't just a time machine, its a world within itself with the power and means to do virtually anything. And yess, im dropping its distance limitations, you are now free to travel the universe. But still not into the future, trying to keep this Thread bound to stuff we know about and has already been recorded.

[Drooling Iguana]

Does the TARDIS have any means to put yourself into stasis? Why not just bury it in a mountain then hibernate for a thousand years or so? That'll give you quite a bit of "future" to work with.

[Patrick Degan]

Does the TARDIS have any means to put yourself into stasis? Why not just bury it in a mountain then hibernate for a thousand years or so? That'll give you quite a bit of "future" to work with.

An alternative would be to fly the TARDIS outward at high relativistic velocities and let St. Einstein do the work of getting you into the future while you sit back and entertain yourself for a year or so, then slip back in time to the present you left and in that way pile up a lot of future to work within.

[His Divine Shadow]

I'd live my life as usual. Go back in time just to visit and look around, also a nice way to get some money. Probably reintroduce some animals, extra tigers and whatnot.

[NecronLord]

Does the TARDIS have any means to put yourself into stasis? Why not just bury it in a mountain then hibernate for a thousand years or so? That'll give you quite a bit of "future" to work with.

An alternative would be to fly the TARDIS outward at high relativistic velocities and let St. Einstein do the work of getting you into the future while you sit back and entertain yourself for a year or so, then slip back in time to the present you left and in that way pile up a lot of future to work within.

I expect it's immune to time dialation. The interior is a seperate dimension from the exterior. There is however, a button in there (well, a mouse-style scroller, actually) that lets you control the flow of time relative to the outside. We see it in The Runaway Bride where the Doctor uses it to 'fast forward' through the formation of the Earth. Millions of years in seconds!