She ain't just sure...she's HIV Positive.

[Broomstick]

Both her and jones are fucking douchebags, but she takes the cake. So, something that happened back in the mid 70s is indicative of modern lesbians? Gee, I suppose every sub-group that has members who engage in sexual assault should be barred from the military.... Wait, all those lesbians were black, get them negros out of our armed forces!

Not to mention the infamous Tailhook scandal. Time to get rid of all the straights in the Air Force.

Tailhook was Navy, not Air Force. Yes, it's a nitpick, but I assume that you wish to be accurate in your statements.

[Mr Bean]

Rep. Vic Snyder (D-Ark.) labeled her statement "just bonkers" and "dumb," and he called her claims about an HIV menace "inappropriate." Said Snyder: "By this analysis . . . we ought to recruit only lesbians for the military, because they have the lowest incidence of HIV in the country."

He has my vote, heck I might change my place of residence to Arkansas to vote for him.

[Ender]

I still say we need to bring T.E. Lawrence into the next hearings.

Seeing as how Selim Ahmed was 14 when they met and 16 when they were living together, I really doubt that is the direction you want to take it.

[Alyrium Denryle]

Rep. Vic Snyder (D-Ark.) labeled her statement "just bonkers" and "dumb," and he called her claims about an HIV menace "inappropriate." Said Snyder: "By this analysis . . . we ought to recruit only lesbians for the military, because they have the lowest incidence of HIV in the country."

He has my vote, heck I might change my place of residence to Arkansas to vote for him.

The CDC does not even have a category for intra-lesbian transmittance of HIV. They have no stats, and in fact there are no recorded cases of it as far as I am aware. They might share needles... but they do not transmit sexually lesie to lesie

[The Duchess of Zeon]

What's wrong with transgenders in the military? They let people in who have thyroid conditions which require synthetic hormone replacement (because they can go months without the drug before being unable to function), why not people taking conjugated estrogen? I mean, especially because there's a concern about how fit women are to meet all the fitness requirements and so on, whereas transwomen will be much likely to easily meet them...

Post-operative of course, obviously; but, still. If I could I'd go to OCS after finishing school, and transitioning; if I end up the citizen of another country due to the way things are going, I'll certainly seek a reserve commission in their forces, since my ethical thought process on the subject is more about serving and dying for the sake of the community you're a part of, rather than patriotism for a particular nation as such.

So, while she thought that would sound especially scary, I just hope it comes true.

[Metatwaddle]

Hell, why stop there. Almost all rapes are committed by straight men. Hell, when a gay person is raped, it is usually a straight person who does it. We should demand congress begin recruiting only gay men, and lesbians who statistically do not commit rape at all.

And there's been a lot of sexual assault in the military during the Iraq War, which has been mostly covered up and ignored.

Of the women veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan who have walked into a VA facility, 15 percent have screened positive for military sexual trauma, The Associated Press has learned. That means they indicated that while on active duty they were sexually assaulted, raped, or were sexually harassed, receiving repeated unsolicited verbal or physical contact of a sexual nature.

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Better get all the straight people out of the military!

[Darth Wong]

The most infuriating thing about all this is their idiotic belief that straights will be victimized by gays (or other outcasts like transgenders). If anything, it is far more likely to be the other way around: minorities being harassed or even assaulted by straights.

[Darth Onasi]

The most infuriating thing about all this is their idiotic belief that straights will be victimized by gays (or other outcasts like transgenders). If anything, it is far more likely to be the other way around: minorities being harassed or even assaulted by straights.

After all, in the core of these whackjob's arguments is the fundamentalist belief that gays, etc. are out to corrupt wholesome Christian values and make everybody gay. Of course to promote the homo-satan-atheist agenda they will harass/assault/rape the utterly innocent and pure straight soldiers.

[Broomstick]

Hell, why stop there. Almost all rapes are committed by straight men. Hell, when a gay person is raped, it is usually a straight person who does it. We should demand congress begin recruiting only gay men, and lesbians who statistically do not commit rape at all.

And there's been a lot of sexual assault in the military during the Iraq War, which has been mostly covered up and ignored.

Much like sexual assaults in civilian life. In fact, I suspect the rates of "sexual assault" (which is broader than just rape) in both the military and civilian life are probably quite similar. Would be interesting to actually investigate it, but I've got enough on my plate right now and, to be honest, really haven't much enthusiasm for such a depressing topic at the moment.

[Oni Koneko Damien]

Either that, or she's sexually paranoid.

She's afraid of lesbians taking pictures in the shower, and she's a woman.

She's probably rented one to many bad adult videos or something.

Or she's a closet homosexual herself and is projecting. Wouldn't be the first time...

You read my mind. The whole time while reading through the article, the quote "The lady doth protest o'ermuch" kept running through my head.

And am I a bad person for thinking the phrase 'HIV Positivity' is the most hilarious thing I've seen all day? I now want to use that phrase in random scenarios. "Come on guys, it's getting rather dour in here, why don't we spread some HIV Positivity?"

[Broomstick]

What's wrong with transgenders in the military?

They're UNNATURAL! They OFFEND GOD! In other words, the usual.

Personally, I don't give a fuck. In my dealings with people from day to day I don't give a damn if they're gay, straight, transgender (well, I feel sorry for transwomen who look like ugly men in drag, but I still treat them decent), asexual, or have unusual affinity for doorknobs. That applies not only to regular folks in mundane jobs but also police officers, doctors, etc. - I don't see where liking to fuck your own gender impacts your ability to shoot straight.

why not people taking conjugated estrogen? I mean, especially because there's a concern about how fit women are to meet all the fitness requirements and so on, whereas transwomen will be much likely to easily meet them...

Just curious where you get this point that transwomen tend to be more capable in this sense than born women. Granted, many transwomen are taller than the female average, which would tend to make one stronger, and I suppose an early influence of testosterone could impact bone and muscle development, but I was under the impression that a decade or so of post-op reassignment would usually drop their strength down to normal female levels (of course, if they exercise like mad they may still retain greater than normal strength, but I'm assuming that transwomen, like born women, range the full spectrum between athlete and coach potato). Of course, I may not have correct information in this matter.

[Broomstick]

Donnelly treated the panel to an extraordinary exhibition of rage. She warned of "transgenders in the military." She warned that lesbians would take pictures of people in the shower. She spoke ominously of gays spreading "HIV positivity" through the ranks.

I get the impression she thinks that being gay alone is enough to cause HIV even in the absence of the virus, and that gay people are deliberately spreading HIV around among straight people because... well, really I haven't a clue why they would do that. Perhaps she thinks they're doing the work of the devil.

"We're talking about real consequences for real people," Donnelly proclaimed.

As opposed to real consequences for UNreal people like, um, homosexuals.

Her written statement added warnings about "inappropriate passive/aggressive actions common in the homosexual community,"

Uh... right. She never met my mother-in-law, a heterosexual woman who has raised "passive-aggressive" to a high art.

WTF fuck is she referring to, anyway?

the prospects of "forcible sodomy"

In other words, rape. As in, straight men fear rape from homosexuals nevermind that the overwhelming majority of rapists are heterosexual men. It's the gays who should fear this, not the straights.

and "exotic forms of sexual expression,"

Anything other than missionary position?

and the case of "a group of black lesbians who decided to gang-assault" a fellow soldier.

How is their race relevant to sexual assault? Or was this a race crime with sexual overtones?

I dunno, maybe we should neuter anyone going into the military... (just kidding)

Retorted Donnelly: "What would you say to Cynthia Yost, the woman on a training exercise assaulted by a group of lesbians?"

Probably the same thing I'd say to a woman assaulted by a group of straight men.

Donnelly said something about "forced intimacy."

Rape? Or just having to accept that other people don't fuck in the missionary position with the lights out?

Then came Donnelly, severe in a black jacket with a flag pin on her lapel

I am beginning to be suspicious of anyone wearing a flag pin on the lapel... it's the 21st Century equivalent of wrapping oneself in the flag.

She spoke of the "devastating" effect gay soldiers would have on the military and said "people who do have religious convictions" would be driven out of the military by the "sexualized atmosphere."

Frankly, I'd prefer a less religious atmosphere in the military.

it also warned of "a band of lesbians that harassed new females,"

But straight men harassing females is OK... well, it's not. Really, sexual misconduct by either gender towards either gender is already a no-no and there are already mechanisms (albeit imperfectly used) to discourage/halt/punish such misconduct.

Darrah was stumped. "Like a woman who is stared at, her breasts are stared at," Donnelly explained.

Well, hell, that happens all the damn time in the civilian world! And usually I'm stared out by straight men! So... it's OK for me to be oggled by straight men but I'm supposed to have hysterics if a woman looks at my tits? WTF?

I remember the time, shortly after my sister came out of the closet, when my mother didn't want me to visit her and part of that was her fear that some woman would ask me for a date or to have sex or whatever. Mom wanted to know what I'd do. I said I'd say the same thing as I would say to a man I'm not interested in - "No thanks". Well, mom asked, what if she tried to force me? I pointed out I'd have a hell of a better chance to fight off a woman than a man getting forceful about such a thing.

I don't fear rape by lesbians. I do worry about rape by a straight male sometimes.

She further explained the "absolutely devastating" effect of homosexuals "introducing erotic factors"

Uh... WTF? Like soldiers don't already think about sex?

Donnelly treated the panel to an extraordinary exhibition of rage. She warned of "transgenders in the military."

I'm sure we have those NOW - it's just that they're keeping their status hidden, or trying to.

She warned that lesbians would take pictures of people in the shower.

Uh, right - because straight people have never done that!