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Former Apollo 14 astronaut, Dr. Edgar Mitchell, has recently made it public knowledge that aliens exist and that NASA officials have had contact with them. Dr. Mitchell says that there has been a sixty-year cover-up by our government of the existence and reality of aliens.

No doubt, all this will be used to support evolution and discredit the Bible. The fact remains, however, that science has shown that only micro-evolution (variations within a biological kind such as varieties of dogs, cats, horses, cows, etc.) is possible but not macro-evolution (variation across biological kinds or from simpler kinds to more complex ones). The reader is encouraged to read the author's article 'The Natural Limits of Evolution' at www.religionscience.com. Mathematical probability alone has shown that it is not rational, logical, or scientific to believe that life could originate by chance.

Alien beings cannot wait millions of years to evolve complex and necessary organs for survival anymore than species on earth. Imagine a species waiting millions of years for reproductive organs to evolve so that it can finally reproduce!

Then, how do we explain aliens if they are for real? The Bible teaches that Satan and his demons (the fallen angels) can take on take all sorts of shapes and perform all sorts of miracles in order to deceive mankind. In fact, some who have been claimed to be abducted by aliens say that these aliens have told them things that undermine the truth of the Christian Scriptures and the Person and work of Jesus Christ.

This is not say that God cannot create life on other planets, but the point being made here is that the supposed alien contacts popularly mentioned are not actual alien beings at all but the work of dark supernatural forces.

The Christian Gospel is unique, unlike any other religious teaching. That in itself is powerful evidence of its true and divine origin. The Christian Scriptures teach that man can never earn his salvation and that salvation is only by the grace (undeserved act) of God through faith in Jesus Christ, God's eternal and only begotten Son Who paid for our sins on the Cross through His suffering and death and Who rose bodily from the grave after three days.

Just as a co-signer to a loan takes the legal responsibility of paying for the loan should the borrower of the loan be unable to pay , Jesus Christ, because He was both divine and human and sinless, was able to take the responsibility to pay mankind's moral and spiritual debt to God. Through His suffering, shed blood on the Cross, and death He paid for our sins by taking the punishment for our sins upon Himself that we may be freely forgiven through faith in Him.

All other religions, no matter how different they may be from each other, teach basically the same thing, that man can save himself through his own good deeds. The Christian Gospel, however, teaches that man is completely fallen and can never be good enough to earn salvation, indeed cannot even be spiritually good at all in God's eyes apart from Christ. For God only sees what is done for His glory as being good. God is not being egotistical. By the very nature of things, truth demands that God be the reason and motive for our deeds and the object of our life and worship. God Himself would be sinning if He demanded anything less that Himself as the reason and motive behind our life and deeds!

Although good deeds cannot save us, once a person is saved in Christ he can and will begin to perform good deeds out of true love for God and his fellow man because of the Holy Spirit of God in his life Who has changed him. Good deeds do not produce salvation but salvation will produce good deeds.

The Christian is not perfect in this life or fully saved yet in this life. A Christian, in this life, will not always do good deeds because he still possess a sin nature, but, at least, the Christian will have a new heart and will always perform some, if not many, good deeds that are truly and spiritually good from God's point of view, the only view that counts!

The Christian Gospel is an offense to the natural thinking of man. Unfortunately, sometimes we Christians unnecessarily add to this offense by the way we share the Gospel and/or by some erroneous doctrine that we attach to it.

The uniqueness of the Christian Gospel shows that it could not have originated from fallen man or aliens. To Christ be all the victory!

'For by grace are ye saved through faith and that not of yourselves: It is the gift of God, not of works lest any man should boast (Ephesians 2:8-9).

'For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life' (John 3:16).

For those not familiar with the Bible, the above quotations are from chapters and verses of two books (the book of Ephesians and the book of John) in the New Testament part of the King James Version Christian Bible or Scripture.

The author, Babu G. Ranganatha, has his B.A. degree with concentrations in theology and biology from Bob Jones University, and has been recognized for his writings on religion and science in the 24th edition of Marquis Who's Who In The East. The author's website may be accessed at www.religionscience.com.



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Are we sure the writer didn't just watch that one X-Files episode with the astronauts while huffing ether or something and decide to write this?
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General Zod wrote:Are we sure the writer didn't just watch that one X-Files episode with the astronauts while huffing ether or something and decide to write this?
Actually Edgar Mitchell did claim recently that aliens do exist (source here).

So I don't think he was watching the X-Files while huffing ether, but more likely that he was reading about this while huffing ether.
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I'm confused. How did an article that started off with an astronaut claiming aliens are real, wind up spewing a bunch of tired old Christian retoric? My eyes kind of glossed over those bits, so maybe I missed something.

What's even the point of this article? 'All aliens are really demons in disguise?' And if demons and the devil are free to use their freaky super powers to mess with us, why arent they flat out ruling the world then?

Btw, have the Christians/Catholics ever explained how it was that they were wrong about the Earth not being the center of the universe? I mean if they and their holy writings know more about the universe than anything science can deduce, how was it they got that so wrong?

Bleh, I hate religious fruitcakes. At least with Origin in Stargate the Ori actually existed and knew what they were talking about, unlike this lot on Earth who made it all up themselves.
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Revy wrote:I'm confused. How did an article that started off with an astronaut claiming aliens are real, wind up spewing a bunch of tired old Christian retoric? My eyes kind of glossed over those bits, so maybe I missed something.
It almost reads like a Jack Chick tract. Go read one and it might more sense, since everything boils down to accepting Christ to fundies.
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Revy wrote:Btw, have the Christians/Catholics ever explained how it was that they were wrong about the Earth not being the center of the universe? I mean if they and their holy writings know more about the universe than anything science can deduce, how was it they got that so wrong?
I've read some fundies claim that it is all an illusion and that Earth is static with the whole universe moving around it in such a complicated way that it makes it look like the Earth is moving.
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I think I lost some IQ points reading that article.
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Darth Onasi wrote:I think I lost some IQ points reading that article.
I know I did...

Especially towards the start, with this:
Alien beings cannot wait millions of ye ... reproduce!

I mean, its standard creationist BS but still. Just ow...
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But how can the aliens make contact with NASA if the Van Allan's radiation belt hasn't been penetrated by the Large Hard On (Collider) yet? :? :lol:


Anyway. These godless aliens could be, like eunuchs. If it's biblicly impossible for them to evolve reproductive organs, then the reason they approached NASA is obviously to find someone who can direct them to a bunch of competent Thailanese surgical gynecologists.

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Man. I'm disappointed that this thread didn't have a youtube link to a video made by that Satan's Stargate Hard On (Collider) guy.
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ANGELUS wrote: Actually Edgar Mitchell did claim recently that aliens do exist (source here).

So I don't think he was watching the X-Files while huffing ether, but more likely that he was reading about this while huffing ether.
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Anyway. These godless aliens could be, like eunuchs. If it's biblicly impossible for them to evolve reproductive organs, then the reason they approached NASA is obviously to find someone who can direct them to a bunch of competent Thailanese surgical gynecologists.
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ANGELUS wrote:
Revy wrote:Btw, have the Christians/Catholics ever explained how it was that they were wrong about the Earth not being the center of the universe? I mean if they and their holy writings know more about the universe than anything science can deduce, how was it they got that so wrong?
I've read some fundies claim that it is all an illusion and that Earth is static with the whole universe moving around it in such a complicated way that it makes it look like the Earth is moving.
Well, thanks to relativity you can choose any point as your static reference point with equal success.
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PeZook wrote:
ANGELUS wrote: Actually Edgar Mitchell did claim recently that aliens do exist (source here).

So I don't think he was watching the X-Files while huffing ether, but more likely that he was reading about this while huffing ether.
Aw, fuck. The moon hoaxers are never gonna shut up now.
The guy is a nutjob, he claimed that he had kidney cancer, and that over the course of a year, he was treated by a "remote healer" and since then the carcinoma is gone. His kidney was never biopsied, he just had a sonogram and an MRI, which, according to him, found an irregularity consistent with a renal carcinoma.
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[R_H] wrote: The guy is a nutjob, he claimed that he had kidney cancer, and that over the course of a year, he was treated by a "remote healer" and since then the carcinoma is gone. His kidney was never biopsied, he just had a sonogram and an MRI, which, according to him, found an irregularity consistent with a renal carcinoma.
Well, duh.

"Oh, we've been contacting aliens for 60 years now, and hiding it all from the public, but we're gonna tell everything to a 77 year old Apollo astronaut so that he can blow the whole thing wide open."

This won't stop the moon hoaxers, of course. They've advocated far more ridiculous stuff for years now :)
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PeZook wrote: Well, duh.

"Oh, we've been contacting aliens for 60 years now, and hiding it all from the public, but we're gonna tell everything to a 77 year old Apollo astronaut so that he can blow the whole thing wide open."

This won't stop the moon hoaxers, of course. They've advocated far more ridiculous stuff for years now :)
Just wanted to point out he wasn't just an alien conspiracy nutter, but a paranormal nutter too.
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[R_H] wrote: Just wanted to point out he wasn't just an alien conspiracy nutter, but a paranormal nutter too.
These usually go together :D
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Alien beings cannot wait millions of years to evolve complex and necessary organs for survival anymore than species on earth. Imagine a species waiting millions of years for reproductive organs to evolve so that it can finally reproduce!
Sigh. Animals (never mind any hypothetical Aliens) do not "wait" to evolve. They just evolve. There is no "waiting" as such.
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Shroom Man 777 wrote: Anyway. These godless aliens could be, like eunuchs.
But the Asgard are the good guys, not demons.
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Actually, it makes perfect sense.

Little green men who abduct people and take them away, show them supernatural powers, and turn them loose?

Today they are space aliens. They used to be known as Leprechauns.

In all seriousness, Carl Sagan showed in The Demon-Haunted World what I had suspected for a long time: All the bullshit stories about aliens are just stories about goblins and faeries with a new coat of paint. Demons and giants were thought to live among the heavens, just like aliens. So when this douchecock says demons are aliens, he's 100% right.
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Elfdart wrote:Actually, it makes perfect sense.

Little green men who abduct people and take them away, show them supernatural powers, and turn them loose?

Today they are space aliens. They used to be known as Leprechauns.

In all seriousness, Carl Sagan showed in The Demon-Haunted World what I had suspected for a long time: All the bullshit stories about aliens are just stories about goblins and faeries with a new coat of paint. Demons and giants were thought to live among the heavens, just like aliens. So when this douchecock says demons are aliens, he's 100% right.
You have no idea how right you are... Its possible to source various incidents which have "dual" explainations, for example, a ghost aircraft in the UK which doubles as an alien starship. There are also duplicate cases of alien sightings/abductions which double as ghost sightings.

lastly, I can't recal which author did it, but he used the argument that Faeries and goblins were actually alien abductions in the past..... thus proving that aliens have been on Earth for a long time. Indeed, the "fairy like" atmosphere of abductions prove this.........
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Of course, the resemblance of alien abductions and fairy encounters to certain sleep disorders and nightmares is just pure coincidence...
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PainRack wrote:You have no idea how right you are... Its possible to source various incidents which have "dual" explainations, for example, a ghost aircraft in the UK which doubles as an alien starship. There are also duplicate cases of alien sightings/abductions which double as ghost sightings.
Wasn't there a video recording of a meteor falling in Spain several decades ago? Half the present congregation thought it the Virgin Mary, the other half thought it was a UFO.
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John Keel actually supports the view that most if not all of these encounters with other beings (be they alien, demon, angel or fairy) are all the result of the same thing, and that the only difference between an alien abduction and a fairy abduction is the time period and context of the event, further coloured by the beliefs of the person in question and whoever researched and wrote about the event.

He believed himself that they were all manifestations of a more advanced intelligent form of life (he called them ultra terrestrials, or UT's) that is to us what we are to insects. I'm not sure I buy that, but I did have a good laugh trotting his theories out on forums full of fairy-loving Wiccans and X-Filey conspiracy freaks, because they all seem to hate it and get really angry at the very suggestion. There was one pagan forum I was on, where I mentioned Keel's ideas, and I got a really angry response from one of the Moderators for 'attacking her beliefs' - she believed in the Celtic faeries called Sidhe or somesuch, and felt that my assertion that all things akin to fairies, elves and whatnot at being the twisted game of some Cthullu-ish entities, was an affront to her religion, faith, whatever, and demanded an apology from me.

Anyway, I found an old article that mentioned his theory;
The most popular belief today is that UFOs are spaceships piloted by aliens from other planets and other solar systems. But another good theory which never gets as much press is that UFOs may, in fact, originate right here on earth. Instead of being Extraterrestrials, UFO aliens might be Ultraterrestrials -- a species that has always been here, which evolved on earth along with homo sapiens, but which represent a species far advanced. These Ultraterrestrials are so superior to us it’s almost impossible for us to comprehend their existence. All we know of them are fleeting glimpses of light in the sky, occasional bizarre encounters between human beings and so-called aliens, and other unexplainable phenomenon. Think of how a group of chimpanzees in the wild perceive human beings. Because their own level of consciousness is limited compared to ours, they cannot comprehend what we humans are beyond being just another kind of animal. A chimp may think of an airplane as some kind of magical, giant bird.

They relate to it with the level of understanding they have about their environment. The speculation of the chimp, at best, is a crude idea about the total truth of an airplane, and the fact that it represents entire levels of consciousness that are so advanced, they are literally invisible to chimp mind. Now think of a human being who encounters a UFO. To us a UFO seems to be some kind of flying, mechanical aircraft -- but the true nature of the UFO may be as different from a spacecraft as a bird is from an airplane. Like the chimp, we just don’t have the advanced levels of consciousness we need to comprehend the true nature of a UFO. As humans, we make the naturally egotistical assumption that we are the species at the top of the heap -- we see ourselves as the peak achievement of evolution. We even make the bold claim that God, the supreme architect of the entire universe, created us in his own image! But it’s not a big leap to consider that we are just another link in a vast chain of species, many which are below us, and some which may be above us.

People who support the Ultraterrestrial theory, such as authors Jacques Vallee and John Keel, point out that supernatural beings seemingly superior to humans have been reported throughout history. In previous eras they were called gods, angels, ogres, fairies, brownies, little people, demons, and more. The Bible is filled with references to supernatural creatures, including giants, “wheels” flying in the sky out of which incredible creatures emerge, and more. But references to flying disks were recorded centuries before the texts of the Bible. Cave drawing dating to 30,000 B.C. depict disks floating around in the sky, remarkably similar to modern UFO photographs. Maverick UFO investigators like Vallee and Keel have pointed out the amazing similarities of modern UFO aliens to that of elves, fairies and the various “little people” famous in the folklore of many cultures. Fairies are known for kidnapping people, the same irritating habit UFO aliens have. People who are abducted report incidents of missing time, a phenomenon very similar to time lapses reported by people taken to and returned from “fairyland.” Fairies, like modern aliens, tend to be diminutive creatures with large magical eyes. Many reports of alien abduction even include “power rods” used to paralyze abductees, just as fairies wield “magic wands.” One of the most interesting comparisons between aliens and fairies is that both are interested in stealing babies.

One of the most common fairy activities is swiping babies from cribs, and sometimes replacing them with a false double, or “changeling” as they are sometimes called. A large part of modern UFO literature involves aliens abducting women, impregnating them, and then later abducting them again, only to remove and take the unborn baby right out of the womb. Clearly, both UFO occupants and fairies have a strong affinity for the baby business. Fairies are closely associated with nature, just as modern aliens also display a certain obsession with environmental issues. One of the most common alien abduction scenarios involves aliens who force people to watch “movies” depicting massive environmental degradation caused by modern human civizilation. The aliens then give them a lecture on environmental issues and let them go. If aliens truly are a superior species from earth and evolved on earth, it would make sense that they would be concerned about another species wrecking the planet. But then you might ask, why don’t the Ultraterrestrials simply step in and “manage” us the same way humans “manage” wildlife, including chimps and other large primates? The Ultraterrestrial theorists answer: “They are!” That’s what all the abduction and experiments are about! Just as human beings capture and tag various species, UFO abductees report experiences of extreme similarity.

Many people report being “tagged” during frightening sessions on a UFO operating table. Some of these “tags” have even been recovered, or show up on MRI exams, and remain unexplained. It’s also possible that Ultraterrestrials comprehend and operate within higher levels of dimension than we experience at the human level. A chimp, for example, does not comprehend the dimension of time like humans can, and a chimp could never understand that time and space are actually two parts of the same dimension, as scientists have discovered. Mathematicians tell us that many additional dimensions of reality exist -- dimensions which only the most brilliant math minds can glimpse through numbers, although they cannot experience them psychologically in any meaningful way. If Ultraterrestrials can exist “above” or “beyond” spacetime, that means they can easily see us, trick us and manipulate our existence, while we can’t see them at all, or only in the most crude manner, or perhaps only when they allow us to see them. Imagine when a bear is shot with a drugged dart from a helicopter hovering above him. Imagine how terrified the bear is of the bizarre flying monster, and the noise and lights that come out of it. Now imagine what the bear thinks of the strange beings that emerge from the flying monster. The strange beings poke and prod him, look inside his mouth, apply a tag to his ear, and then let him go. Why? How can a bear understand or interpret the meaning of this incident on its level of consciousness? It can’t. Human beings are so advanced and superior as to be incomprehensible. Is it so difficult to believe that the ongoing bizarre and seemingly incomprehensible phenomenon of UFOs and their activities are the actions of an earth-born species far advanced and superior to human beings? Just ask a bear or a chimp.
Keep in mind it's not my theory, I just posted it because it mentions about the similarities between things like aliens and fairies. And because it seems to annoy the more conventional fairy/alien lovers no end, which is always fun.
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Where did you find that? That was a very interesting read.
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I found it when I googled John Keel a few years ago. It was just some article someone had posted online, but you can find similar stuff if you look into Ultraterrestrials. Keel himself wrote several books where he analyses the similarities between abductions and strange encounters, throughout all of history. At the very least he had the right idea that you shouldn't accept these things at face value, or colour them with folklore or beliefs.
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