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Well that draws an analogy between the U.S. and Canada that may be inappropriate. The relative size of your banks in terms of capital and customers served IS the equivalent of say, a few stable regional banks covering the Pacific Coast. An exact analog would be tremendously enormous banks, and I don't know about having all those eggs in one basket, especially in the U.S. economic climate and ethics atmosphere. However, there are a lot of little splitter dipshit banks, and I don't really get it either.
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Senate passes landmark housing bill

Controversial measure aims to help borrowers, bolster the housing market and provide a fail-safe for Fannie and Freddie. Bush is likely to sign it soon.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The Senate on Saturday overwhelmingly passed a landmark housing bill that will offer up to $300 billion in loans for troubled homeowners and establish a government rescue plan for mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

The House passed the bill on Wednesday just hours after President Bush reversed his long-standing vow to veto the bill. Bush is expected to sign it soon.

The legislation, one of the most far-reaching on housing in decades, marks the centerpiece of Washington's efforts to address the nation's housing meltdown.

"This legislation won't perform miracles. But as others have said, it's a step - and I hope an important step - to putting our nation on the road to economic recovery," said Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., chairman of the Senate Banking Committee and a principal author of the bill.

Following the vote, Dodd said he will meet on Tuesday with representatives from the Treasury, the Federal Reserve, the FDIC and the Department of Housing and Urban Development to discuss how the legislation can be implemented as quickly as possible. "I'm not going to tolerate a slow walk," he said.

Though the Senate vote was 72 to 13, the bill was not without its staunch opponents.

Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, the leading Republican taxwriter, had supported earlier versions of the legislation but objected to the rescue plan for Fannie and Freddie. "This bill has fallen prey to the special interests on Wall Street and K Street at an unjustifiable expense to taxpayers and homeowners on Main Street," Grassley said.

The White House also objected to parts of the bill, including aid to states to buy foreclosed properties. But White House Press Secretary Tony Fratto said the measures concerning Fannie and Freddie are "urgently needed now ... President Bush will sign this bill when he receives it, despite our concerns with some provisions."

The bill has two principal objectives: to offer affordable government-backed mortgages to homeowners at risk of foreclosure, and to bolster Fannie and Freddie with a temporary rescue plan and a new, more stringent regulator.
Helping at-risk borrowers

Provisions in the 700-page bill that would most directly affect consumers and communities include:

Increase the Federal Housing Administration's role. The FHA will be allowed to insure up to $300 billion in new 30-year fixed-rate mortgages for at-risk borrowers in owner-occupied homes if their lenders agree to write down loan balances to 90% of the homes' current appraised value.

The cost of the new FHA program - which would begin on Oct. 1 and be in place for just a few years - would be funded by fees from Fannie and Freddie, along with fees paid by both lenders and borrowers.

While the bill authorizes the FHA to insure up to $300 billion in loans, the CBO estimates that the agency is only likely to insure up to $68 billion and help keep roughly 325,000 people in their homes. Those estimates were based on the CBO's assessment of who is likely to qualify under the program and accounts for a certain number likely to default anyway.

(Here are more details on this provision.)

Establish a stronger regulator for the GSEs. The new regulator will have a greater say over how well funded the agencies are - a major concern in the markets that has sent stocks in both companies plunging.

Permanently increase "conforming loan" limits. The bill would permanently increase the cap on the size of mortgages guaranteed by Fannie and Freddie to a maximum of $625,500 from $417,000.

The FHA maximum loan limits for high-cost areas would also increase to $625,500. Higher loan limits will make it easier for borrowers to get mortgages, because they're more likely to be traded if they are considered conforming.


Create home-buyer credit. The bill includes a tax refund for first-time home buyers worth up to 10% of a home's purchase price but no more than $7,500.

The refund, however, serves more as an interest-free loan, since it would have to be paid back over 15 years in equal installments.

Bar down-payment assistance for FHA loans. The bill eliminates a program that has allowed sellers to provide down payment assistance.

The bill would also increase to 3.5% from 3% the down payment requirement for borrowers getting FHA loans.

Create an affordable housing trust fund. The bill establishes a permanent fund to promote affordable housing. The fund would be paid for by fees from Fannie and Freddie.

Give grants to states to buy foreclosed properties. The bill would grant $4 billion to states to buy up and rehabilitate foreclosed properties. The funding had been opposed by the White House, which said it would benefit lenders and not homeowners.
Bolster Fannie and Freddie

Concerns over whether Fannie Mae (FNM, Fortune 500) and Freddie Mac (FRE, Fortune 500) will have enough money to weather future losses in the housing market sent shares plummeting in recent weeks. Since the beginning of June, Fannie's stock price has dropped 57% and Freddie's plummeted 66%. For the past year, they're both down roughly 85% as of the end of trade on Friday.

Fannie and Freddie guarantee the purchase and trade of mortgages and own or back $5.2 trillion in mortgages.

To help stabilize markets, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson asked Congress to temporarily empower Treasury to offer the companies a backstop if needed. Consequently the housing bill now includes provisions that let Treasury over the next 18 months offer Fannie and Freddie an unlimited line of credit and the authority to buy stock in the companies.

Both critics and supporters of the Paulson plan have expressed concern that loaning or investing money in the companies could leave taxpayers with a fat bill to pay.

The Congressional Budget Office on Tuesday estimated the potential cost of a rescue could be $25 billion. CBO said there is probably a better than 50% chance that Treasury would not need to step in. It also said there is a 5% chance that Freddie's and Fannie's losses could cost the government $100 billion. To top of page
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Raising conforming loan limits. So in effect, encouraging Freddie & Fannie and by extension other lenders to up their leverage & risk in a declining market, and make it easier for people to get big risky mortgages. And on top of that, encourage more CDOs and SIVs based on said mortgages. My god, I could not come up with a better way of imploding everything if I tried.
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What about making the bailout a low-interest loan from the government, rather than a lump sum of cash? In that case the economy wouldn't implode, and the banks would be punished for giving out risky loans.
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CaptainZoidberg wrote:What about making the bailout a low-interest loan from the government, rather than a lump sum of cash? In that case the economy wouldn't implode, and the banks would be punished for giving out risky loans.
Because they've already tried that and it did nothing except make the situation worse than it was before. That's what the TAF, TSLF, Bear Stearns JPM buyout and various other loan facilities are; a discount loan from the Fed with an implicit full backing from the government and Treasury. All it did was encourage the banks to cheat some more & increase their leverage in a desperate "double or nothing" attempt to break even, which of course failed.

On a related note, Stuttering Hank was grilled by Senator Jim Bunning in a Senate Banking Committee hearing earlier this month.
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I had noticed the expectations that while it would 'authorize' a crapload of purchases, it would actually do alot less, but the 'Oh, and if you want to sell to Freddie and Fannie, you have to wave bye-bye to the top ten percent first. And only so many will qualify.'
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Consequently the housing bill now includes provisions that let Treasury over the next 18 months offer Fannie and Freddie an unlimited line of credit and the authority to buy stock in the companies.


unlimited?

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Curiouser and curiouser...

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Fannie's Mudd Soothed Asian Investors as Bonds Rose (Update2)

By Dawn Kopecki


Aug. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Fannie Mae Chief Executive Officer Daniel Mudd was sitting down to a glass of wine with his wife at their Washington home around 10 p.m. on Saturday July 12 when Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson called.

Concerns about the financial health of the biggest U.S. mortgage finance company had driven Fannie Mae's borrowing costs to the highest since March the previous week and its shares had tumbled 45 percent on the New York Stock Exchange. Investors in Asia, the biggest foreign owners of Fannie Mae's $3 trillion of bonds, were asking the Treasury to bolster the government- sponsored company and its smaller competitor, Freddie Mac, said three people with knowledge of the talks.

Paulson told Mudd he had a plan to restore confidence in Fannie and Freddie, the core of the Bush administration's efforts to revive the U.S. housing market. ``At that point, the proposal began to take form,'' Mudd, 49, said in an interview. ``We're trying to solve a crisis of confidence. Would this do it?''

The next afternoon, before financial markets opened Monday in Asia, Paulson announced the rescue plan, saying he would seek authority to buy unlimited equity stakes in the companies and their bonds if needed, while the Federal Reserve would lend directly to Fannie and Freddie. Congress included the proposals in a broader housing bill that President George W. Bush signed into law last week.

Asian investors were among the most important groups to soothe because central banks, financial institutions and funds in the region own $800 billion of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's $5.2 trillion in debt, according to data compiled by the Treasury. U.S. officials were concerned that sales from the region would push lending rates higher, said the people, who declined to be named because the discussions were confidential.

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The extra yield investors demanded to own five-year notes of Washington-based Fannie rather than Treasuries rose to 101 basis points, or 1.01 percentage point, on July 9, from an average of 39 basis points over the previous five years.

Borrowing costs climbed and the companies' shares collapsed after analysts at New York-based Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. said in a July 7 report that proposed accounting changes might force Fannie Mae and McLean, Virginia-based Freddie Mac to raise a combined $75 billion in capital.

Fannie tumbled 45 percent to $10.25 in New York Stock Exchange trading that week, while Freddie fell 47 percent to $7.75. A year ago both companies traded above $60.

At the height of the panic, Mudd dispatched two lieutenants to Asia to meet with debt investors. He declined to say which countries were visited, or the names of the officials.

`Extremely Worrisome'

Freddie and Fannie rely on foreign institutions. Investors and central banks outside the U.S. own about $1.3 trillion of Fannie and Freddie's corporate and mortgage bonds, according to the Treasury. Chinese institutions are the biggest holders in Asia. European investors own $300 billion of the securities.

``If they stop buying the agency debt, then yields would increase,'' Ajay Rajadhyaksha, the head of U.S. fixed-income strategy at Barclays Capital in New York, said in reference to Asia investors. ``The costs would get passed to the consumers.''

The average rate on a 30-year mortgage jumped to 6.59 percent on July 18 from 6.22 percent on July 11 as demand for the companies' debt waned, he said. If Asia started selling Fannie and Freddie holdings, ``that would be extremely worrisome,'' Rajadhyaksha said.

Like when it announced the bailout of Bear Stearns Cos. by JPMorgan Chase & Co. on a Sunday in March, the Treasury rushed to pull together a statement on July 13 before markets opened in Tokyo.

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Paulson, the 62-year-old former CEO of Goldman Sachs Group Inc., ``knows the markets; he's seen parts of this movie before,'' Mudd said. The decision to allow Fannie and Freddie to borrow from the Fed's so-called discount window was meant to ``send a message to the markets that it wasn't just a someday aspiration, but those confidence building measures are in place right now before Tokyo opens on Sunday night,'' he said.

Freddie CEO Richard Syron, 64, declined to comment.

Fannie was created as part of Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal in the 1930s, a time when the U.S. economy was struggling to emerge from the stock market crash, industrial production had tumbled 50 percent and the unemployment rate rose as high as 30 percent. Freddie started in 1970, when the economy was strained by the Vietnam War.

Both have the implicit guarantee of the U.S. government, so they can borrow at lower rates than banks and make money by purchasing higher-yielding mortgages from home lenders, providing new capital for loans. The companies own or guarantee almost half the $12 trillion of residential mortgages outstanding.

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Congress and the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, which regulates Fannie and Freddie, loosened restrictions on the companies this year, allowing them to buy more mortgages and temporarily purchase loans up to $729,500 in larger markets, compared with the previous limit of $417,000. The new legislation allows them to buy loans up to $625,000 in the 91 most-expensive markets.

The companies have become the primary source of cash for the housing market as banks and brokers, battered by $480 billion of losses and writedowns from subprime-contaminated securities, reduce lending. Fannie and Freddie were responsible for more than 80 percent of the mortgage bonds created in the first quarter, Ofheo said.

``The markets care as much about the government's comments about us, especially in this market,'' Fannie General Counsel Beth Wilkinson said in an interview. ``If there's any kind of mixed message during a very volatile market it could be very detrimental to the GSEs and therefore the economy.''

Marines in Lebanon

Mudd, the son of former CBS Evening News reporter Roger Mudd, has some experience with crisis management. While a first lieutenant in the Marines, he led the first platoon airlifted into Beirut on Oct. 24, 1983, one day after a truck bomb leveled a barracks that housed Marines dispatched as peacekeepers during Lebanon's civil war.

He ran General Electric Capital Corp.'s Asian businesses during the region's slump in 1998. In 2004, four years after joining Fannie as chief operating officer, he took over for CEO Franklin Raines as the company tried to recover from an $11 billion accounting restatement and securities fraud charges.

``You develop a pretty simple, straightforward set of priorities and marching orders,'' said Mudd, who'd canceled plans to spend summer weekends with his wife and four children at their rented vacation home in Nantucket. As the declines steepened, his wife flew home to support him, leaving the kids with her sister.

Yields Narrow

Yields on Fannie five-year debt narrowed to within 76 basis points of Treasuries. Fannie shares rose 1 cent today to $11.83 on the New York Stock Exchange, up from a 16-year low of $7.07 on July 15. Freddie declined 46 cents, or 5.8 percent, to $7.52, compared with its 16-year low of $5.26 the same day.

``Given the circumstances, he's done a pretty good job,'' David Dreman, chairman of Dreman Value Management LLC in Jersey City, New Jersey, said of Mudd. Dreman's firm held 10.4 million of Fannie shares at the end of March. He said he added to those holdings last quarter, though is ``holding tight'' now.

Fannie reports second-quarter results this month, and will likely announce a loss of 74 cents a share, or about $730 million, according to the average estimate of 11 analysts surveyed by Bloomberg. Freddie may report a loss of 60 cents, or about $388 million.

To contact the reporter on this story: Dawn Kopecki in Washington at dkopecki@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: August 4, 2008 16:15 EDT
Hmmm...the Asian investors own $800 billion of Fannie & Freddie's debt. The US national debt limit was raised by $800 billion in the bailout bill which was rubber stamped last week. Nah, couldn't be, must be a coincidence...
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Uh oh. Certainly an eventful end to the week. FDIC Friday takes out Silver State Bank where McCain's son serves on the board of directors, and now this. It appears Freddie & Fannie will be taken over by the Government by the end of this weekend.

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U.S. Rescue Seen at Hand for 2 Mortgage Giants

By STEPHEN LABATON and ANDREW ROSS SORKIN
Published: September 5, 2008

WASHINGTON — Senior officials from the Bush administration and the Federal Reserve on Friday called in top executives of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the mortgage finance giants, and told them that the government was preparing to place the two companies under federal control, officials and company executives briefed on the discussions said.

The plan, which would place the companies into a conservatorship, was outlined in separate meetings with the chief executives at the office of the companies’ new regulator. The executives were told that, under the plan, they and their boards would be replaced and shareholders would be virtually wiped out, but that the companies would be able to continue functioning with the government generally standing behind their debt, people briefed on the discussions said.

It is not possible to calculate the cost of any government bailout, but the huge potential liabilities of the companies could cost taxpayers tens of billions of dollars and make any rescue among the largest in the nation’s history.

The drastic effort follows the bailout this year of Bear Stearns, the investment bank, as government officials continue to grapple with how to stem the credit crisis and housing crisis that have hobbled the economy. With Bear Stearns, the government provided guarantees and the bulk of its assets were transferred to JPMorgan Chase, leaving shareholders with a nominal amount.

Under a conservatorship, the common and preferred shares of Fannie and Freddie would be reduced to little or nothing, and any losses on mortgages they own or guarantee could be paid by taxpayers.

A conservatorship would operate much like a pre-packaged bankruptcy, similar to what smaller companies use to clean up their books and then emerge with stronger balance sheets.

The executives were told that the government had been planning to announce the decision as early as Sunday, before the Asian markets reopen, the officials said.

For months, administration officials have grappled with the steady erosion of the books of the two mortgage finance giants. A fierce behind-the-scenes debate among policy makers has been waged over whether to seize the companies or let them work out their problems. Even after the companies are put under government control, debates will continue over how they should look and operate over the long term.

But the declining housing and financial markets have apparently now forced the administration’s hand. With foreign governments growing increasingly skittish about holding billions of dollars in securities issued by the companies, no sign that their losses will abate any time soon, and the inability of the companies to raise new capital, the administration apparently decided it would be better to act now rather than closer to the presidential election in two months.

Just five weeks ago, President Bush signed a law to give the administration the authority to inject billions of dollars into the companies through investments or loans. In proposing the legislation, Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr. said that he had no plan to provide loans or investments, and that merely giving the government the authority to backstop the companies would provide a strong shot of confidence to the markets. But the thin capital reserves that have kept the two companies afloat have continued to erode as the housing market has steadily declined and the number of foreclosures has soared.

As their problems have deepened — and the marketplace has come to expect some sort of government rescue — both companies have found it difficult to raise new capital to absorb future losses. In recent weeks, Mr. Paulson has been reaching out to foreign governments that hold billions of dollars of Fannie and Freddie securities to reassure them that the United States stands behind the companies.

In issuing their quarterly financial statements last month, the two companies reported huge losses and predicted that home prices would fall more than previously projected.

The debt securities the companies issue to finance their operations are widely owned by mutual funds, pension funds, foreign governments and big companies.

Officials said the participants at the meetings included Mr. Paulson, Ben S. Bernanke, the chairman of the Fed, and James Lockhart, the head of both the old and new agency that regulates the companies. The companies were represented by Daniel H. Mudd, the chief executive of Fannie Mae, and Richard F. Syron, chief executive of Freddie Mac. Also participating was H. Rodgin Cohen, the chairman of the law firm, Sullivan & Cromwell, who was representing Fannie.

Officials and executives briefed on the meetings said that Mr. Mudd and Mr. Syron were told that they would have to leave the companies.

Spokesmen at the two companies did not return telephone calls seeking comment.

The meetings reflected the reality that senior administration officials did not believe they could wait for some kind of financial tipping point, as happened with Bear Stearns, which was saved from insolvency in March by government intervention after its stock plummeted and lenders withheld their capital.

Instead, Mr. Paulson has struggled to navigate through potentially conflicting goals — stabilizing the financial markets, making mortgages more widely available in a tightening credit environment, and protecting taxpayers from possibly enormous losses.

Publicly, administration officials have tried to bolster the companies because the nation’s mortgage system relies on their continued ability to purchase mortgages from commercial lenders and pull the housing markets out of their slump.

But privately, senior officials have been critical of top executives at the companies, particularly Freddie Mac. They have raised concerns about major risks to taxpayers of a bailout of companies whose executives have received huge compensation packages. Mr. Syron, for instance, collected more than $38 million in compensation since he joined the company in 2003.

Although Mr. Syron promised regulators earlier this year that he would raise $5.5 billion from investors, he has repeatedly failed to make good on that promise — even as Fannie Mae raised more than $7 billion. Mr. Syron was slated to step down from the chief executive position last year, but that was delayed when his appointed successor, Eugene McQuade, chose to leave the company.

With the possible removal of the top management and the board, it is no longer clear who would appoint new management.

Mr. Paulson had hoped that merely having the authority to bail out the two companies, which Congress provided in its recent housing bill, would be enough to calm the markets, but if anything anxiety has been increasing. The clearest measure of that anxiety has been the gradually widening spread between interest rates on Fannie- or Freddie-backed mortgage securities and rates for Treasury securities, making home mortgages more expensive. The stock price of the companies has also plunged over the last year.

After stock markets closed on Friday, the shares of Fannie and Freddie plummeted. Fannie was trading around $5.50, down from $70 a year ago. Freddie was trading at about $4, down from about $65 a year ago.

With Fannie and Freddie guaranteeing about $5 trillion in mortgage-backed securities, and a big share of those securities held by central banks and investors around the world, Mr. Paulson appears to have decided that the stakes are too high to take any chances.

The Treasury Department is required by the new law to obtain agreement from the boards of Fannie and Freddie for a capital infusion. The exception is if the companies’ regulator, Mr. Lockhart, determines that the companies are insolvent or deeply undercapitalized it could take the companies over anyway.

Experts said that the longer the administration waited, the greater the potential risks and costs. Charles Calomiris, a professor of economics at Columbia University’s School of Business, said delaying a government rescue would only increase the risks and costs.

“The last thing you want to do is give a distressed borrower more time, because when people are in distress they tend to take a lot of risks,” he said. “You don’t want zombie institutions floating around with time on their hands.”
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Assuming this goes through, it will be interesting to see what that does to treasuries, and the U.S. bond market in general. That's a lot of debt which I would expect is not fully factored in to the present price of U.S. treasury bonds.
“The last thing you want to do is give a distressed borrower more time, because when people are in distress they tend to take a lot of risks,” he said. “You don’t want zombie institutions floating around with time on their hands.”
A lot of risks? You mean, like, their regulator decreasing their capital requirements so they could keep buying questionable mortgages? The sort of risks we've been seeing throughout the housing crisis? F&F have been zombies for some time now.
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At least it's not a bailout, really. I'd be furious if we were going to dump billions down the hole for no gain. Here they're at least under government control, and so if Obama is elected can possibly be nationalized or something along those lines.
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Officials announce takeover of mortgage giants
Sunday September 7, 12:34 pm ET
By Alan Zibel and Martin Crutsinger, AP Business Writers
Government assumes control over mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Bush administration, acting to avert the potential for major financial turmoil, announced Sunday that the federal government was taking control of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Officials announced that the executives and board of directors of both institutions had been replaced. Herb Allison, a former vice chairman of Merrill Lynch, was selected to head Fannie Mae, and David Moffett, a former vice chairman of US Bancorp, was picked to head Freddie Mac.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson says the historic actions were being taken because "Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are so large and so interwoven in our financial system that a failure of either of them would cause great turmoil in our financial markets here at home and around the globe."

The huge potential liabilities facing each company, as a result of soaring mortgage defaults, could cost taxpayers tens of billions of dollars, but Paulson stressed that the financial impacts if the two companies had been allowed to fail would be far more serious.

"A failure would affect the ability of Americans to get home loans, auto loans and other consumer credit and business finance," Paulson said.

Both companies were placed into a government conservatorship that will be run by the Federal Housing Finance Agency, the new agency created by Congress this summer to regulate Fannie and Freddie.

The Federal Reserve and other federal banking regulators said in a joint statement Sunday that "a limited number of smaller institutions" have significant holdings of common or preferred stock shares in Fannie and Freddie, and that regulators were "prepared to work with these institutions to develop capital-restoration plans."

The two companies had nearly $36 billion in preferred shares outstanding as of June 30, according to filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Paulson said that it would be up to Congress and the next president to figure out the two companies' ultimate structure.

"There is a consensus today ... that they cannot continue in their current form," he said.

Paulson and James Lockhart, director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, stressed that their actions were designed to strengthen the role of the two mortgage giants in supporting the nation's housing market. Both companies do that by buying mortgage loans from banks and packaging those loans into securities that they either hold or sell to U.S. and foreign investors.

The companies own or guarantee about $5 trillion in home loans, about half the nation's total.

Lockhart said that both Fannie and Freddie would be allowed to increase the size of their holdings of mortgage-backed securities to bolster the housing industry as it undergoes its worst downturn in decades.

Lockhart said in order to conserve about $2 billion in capital the dividend payments on both common and preferred stock would be eliminated. He said that all lobbying activities of both companies would stop immediately. Both companies over the years made extensive efforts to lobby members of Congress in an effort to keep the benefits they enjoyed as government-sponsored enterprises.

Both Paulson and Lockhart were careful not to blame Daniel Mudd, the CEO of Fannie Mae, or Freddie Mac CEO Richard Syron for the companies' current problems. While both men are being removed as the top executives, they have been asked to remain for an unspecified period to help with the transition.

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I'm in the process of buying a house and my loan officer mentioned that I locked in my interest rate at a great time (yesterday), because he expected to see the rates jump on Monday precisely because of this news.
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