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could vader and his fleet from esb take on all of star fleet?
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I will go with a yes on this one. We are talking about a SSD, and exactly how many ISD were there?
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No.Enforcer Talen wrote:could vader and his fleet from esb take on all of star fleet?
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(sigh) I thought he said Star Trek, not Star Fleet.
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Although if you really wanna get long term (vs. just all the ships appearing in one section of space and duking it out), the Feds could hide, ad start to fight guerrila style.
Hit and runs, false alarms, that whole bit, and it could eventually make the Imp ships run out of fuel. But thats just long term.
Hit and runs, false alarms, that whole bit, and it could eventually make the Imp ships run out of fuel. But thats just long term.
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If Death Squadron just sits there and fights all the ships in SF, then I think SF might have a chance. If, on the other hand, Death Squadron is allowed to open things up and use its speed advantage, then SF has little chance of inflicting meaningful casualties on its enemy.
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An ISD is equippede to operate for 7 years IIRCDarth Garden Gnome wrote:Although if you really wanna get long term (vs. just all the ships appearing in one section of space and duking it out), the Feds could hide, ad start to fight guerrila style.
Hit and runs, false alarms, that whole bit, and it could eventually make the Imp ships run out of fuel. But thats just long term.
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According to the novel there were 20 captains when Vader gave the order to continue searching for the Falcon, so that's reasonable supposition (although the book also describes another ship taking an asteroid hit than a star destroyer).consequences wrote:Up to twenty ships if we go by the novelisation if I remember correctly.
Also, do we know if the three ships that collided/nearly collided were out of the picture at that time?
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This is rather funny. Could an infinitesimal part of the Imperial Navy take on everything in Starfleet? It wouldn't be a viable question if the volume of the Executor didn't rival (or excede) that of ALL of Starfleet's major battleships, the nine Galaxy Class vessels and 4 or 5 Sovereigns. Personally, I don't know who would win in a straight up firefight, but if a campaign were allowed, it would be almost trivial to bring the entire Federation to its knees via a simple BDZ/threaten BDZ with just those twenty ships, with or without Vader in command.
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The Federation couldn't even ENGAGE the Imperial ships, if the Imps didn't want to. They show up, fry a planet and any surrounding starbases or ships in a few hours, and then take off. How long would it take Starfleet to react to that? Several days, at best. It'd take them MONTHS to organize a fleet capable of being a threat to any one of those ships.
Now, granted, Death Squadron couldn't capture and hold every Federation planet (unless the entire population was burned away first), but a Total War rampage? Easily done.
Now, granted, Death Squadron couldn't capture and hold every Federation planet (unless the entire population was burned away first), but a Total War rampage? Easily done.
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I have but one thing to say...consequences wrote:Fair enough. Actually, all of Starfleet gathered together could probably take any one of the ships smaller then the Executor, presuming Death Squadron gets separated enough, the feds have some warning, and they accept the use of mass suicide tactics.
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Is this starfleet prior or after the Dominion War?
If its the latter, and if they all got together in one spot.....then I can see SF doing a bit of damage to Vader's escort ships, but not to the Executor itself.
If its the latter, and if they all got together in one spot.....then I can see SF doing a bit of damage to Vader's escort ships, but not to the Executor itself.
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Yes, given the firepower of the Executor alone...this wouldn't even be funny.
Combine that with the novelization, it's be worse, but I'd even give it to Death Squadron from the movie.
Combine that with the novelization, it's be worse, but I'd even give it to Death Squadron from the movie.
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Federation Starfleet would be hard-pressed to destroy a single ISD, never mind Vader's entire Death Squadron. Look at how much firepower they were able to bring to bear on a Borg cube, and then look at how much firepower ISD's can bring to bear on each other in battle. Hell, look at how much firepower a piddly one-man ship like Slave-1 carries. Slave-1 could have taken out that Borg cube in STFC by itself.
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Ya know, that would be funny to watch.Darth Wong wrote:We are the Borg. Resistance is fu- SEISMIC CHARGE DETONATION!
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This is almost depressing. It's like those superfans skits on SNL. "The Iraqi army vs Ditka." "Ditka destroys the entire army and then has anal sex with Saddam's mother."
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Ok so Ditka in command of say, the Millenium Falcon versus the Entire Alpha Quadrant
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it would be interesting to see how that scenario would play out since the feds couldn't rely on a technobabble solution.
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it would be interesting to see how that scenario would play out since the feds couldn't rely on a technobabble solution.
"Have you tried changing the shield frequency?"
"yes"
"What about modulating the omicron wave particle saturizers in the shield generator to increase power?"
"yes"
"What about pinching me to find out if this is just all a bad dream?"
"twice"
"do we have any ideas?"
"surrender?"
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"Sir...there's something on long range sensors....sorry I mean short range sensors....I mean its right on top....."Darth Fanboy wrote:Ok so Ditka in command of say, the Millenium Falcon versus the Entire Alpha Quadrant
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it would be interesting to see how that scenario would play out since the feds couldn't rely on a technobabble solution.
"Have you tried changing the shield frequency?"
"yes"
"What about modulating the omicron wave particle saturizers in the shield generator to increase power?"
"yes"
"What about pinching me to find out if this is just all a bad dream?"
"twice"
"do we have any ideas?"
"surrender?"
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