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McCain, Obama is Moses!

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The fallout over the Britney Spears-Paris Hilton celebrity ad only appears to have emboldened John McCain's new strategy to paint Barack Obama as a witless fad. McCain's latest ad ratchets up the celebrity comparisons by putting the Senator next to one of the biggest figures in time: Moses.

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McCain's strategy doesn't feel too different from a tactic Hillary Clinton used against Barack Obama in February when her campaign started to realize it wasn't going to fulfill it's media-anointed mantle of inevitability. Hillary mocked Obama, telling the crowd "the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing, and everyone will know we should do the right thing, and the world will be perfect."

Making fun of Barack Obama as a Jesus figure obviously didn't help Hillary. That doesn't mean it can't help McCain. Unlike Hillary, the GOP candidate isn't the one explicitly making fun of Obama. When Hillary did it, people made fun of her. Yes, McCain's in the commercials, but only to approve them. By creating an ad campaign around mocking Obama, McCain is forcing him to comment and therefore make the ads a bigger deal. That's exactly what happened on Thursday when Obama commented on the Paris-Britney ad. Obama took the bait and did just what the McCain camp wanted him to do when he said McCain was saying he "doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills." Obama's comment painted himself as different, a figure of race, a person who rose up by different means, perhaps even through celebrity... Let's see how the Obama campaign reacts to this one.


ABC dissects the ad to show where the McCain camp is spinning "the one" out of context:

"We are the ones we've been waiting for," Obama says, in his Super Duper Tuesday speech in California.

The narrator continues: "And he has anointed himself, ready to carry the burden of The One. To quote Barack, 'I have become a symbol of America returning to our best traditions.'"

As we covered earlier in the week, that quote was actually Obama telling House Democrats that the big crowds and enthusiastic receptions he received in Europe had less to do with him than they had to do with a desire for a new U.S. foreign policy. In a way, it was more a statement of humility than arrogance.

"He can do no wrong," the narrator says.

Cut to an excerpt of CBS's Lara Logan asking Obama, "Do you have any doubts?"

"Never," Obama says, smiling.

"Can you see the light?" asks the narrator.
This ad is first off AWESOME as it once again shows Obama in front of crowds of cheering people, quotes him out of context to make him appear arrogant, and then acknowledges that in fact Obama might be the one after all.

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You have to love it when you're reviled for supposedly not believing in the common religion in the US, then suddenly when you're compared to one of its most revered characters. . .it's supposed to be an insult. If the Obama campaign were to go negative they could put some serious spin on this as McCain attacking religion.
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Well, he will lead us out from the dark times of Bush, a man who believes he has a divine right to lead...
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What kind of fucking attack add was that? I don't exactly have my finger on the pulse of the American electorate, but that add showed Obama demonstrating conviction, humor, an optimistic vision of the future, and leadership. The snickering pop culture comparison . . . . was to Charles fucking Heston playing Moses.

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I don't think McCain can pull off snark nearly as well as his campaign believes he can.
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I think we're well overdue for a posting of the "Old Man Yells at Cloud" image. :)
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Tanasinn wrote:I think we're well overdue for a posting of the "Old Man Yells at Cloud" image. :)
Someone needs to find a photo of McCain looking upwards with the same Grandpa Simpson scowl and shop in a cloud.
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I can't find the adds with Britney or Paris. Are they hillarious?
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I'm beginning to wonder if my jests that McCain is deliberately trying to throw the election actually are true. The events at the end of Clear and Present Danger with those two Congress guys getting the sitting POTUS to throw his reelection campaign starts sounding plausible (hey, I know Clancy is a hack, but Debt of Honor was prescient in a fashion of sorts).
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Maybe McCain realizes that he can't win and stopped trying?
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Or McCain is now appealing to the atheist/Egyptian pagan gods worshippers, since those two demographics OBVIOUSLY hate Moses. :roll:
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Adrian Laguna wrote:Maybe McCain realizes that he can't win and stopped trying?
I think he's desperate to be heard, despite his relatively feeble, if not nonsensical attempts to try to be make himself heard.
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Perhaps Obama should hire McCain as his advertising manager...
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Oh shit. I just figured out what this is. It was bothering me why McCain, a guy who has repeatedly been rebuffed by the dominionists and has taken a secular tone, has begun painting his opponent in religious terms, celebrity terms, and populist terms. He isn't trying to throw the race like some here think, he is trying to scare the dominionists into backing him by painting Obama as the Antichrist. Embraced by the "godless" masses (popular in europe), celebrating decadence and linked to the whore of babylon (Paris and Britney comparisons), creating a cult of personality, promising hope, but full of lies.

Wow. Every time I think Rove and the Republicans can't top themselves, they do.
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But if you vote for the Antichrist, doesn't that mean the End of Times will come sooner and then all True Christians will be Raptured into Heaven?

Silly McCain. That is the fatal flaw of his villainous, villainous scheme :lol:
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That Antichrist thing was the first thing I thought of when watching this ad. I expected a verse from revelation to come on screen or something. The ominous tone of the narrarator, referring to Obama as "The One"; it defenitely make me think of the antichrist.
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Or McCain's campaign might not be as culturally deficient as it appears to be.

If they link Obama to "The One" Neo, they also draw subliminal connections to the crappiness of the Animatrix and Matrix Revolutions.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one to immediately see it. It portrays him as a charismatic, popular man who will unite the Earth in peace.

Which is exactly who the Fundies say the Antichrist is.

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I thought that McCain should be the Antichrist. After all, those Left Behind bullshit authors claimed that the Antichrist will rise from the dead, and McCain, to put it bluntly, does look like a corpse (he probably is as intelligent as one).
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Pelranius wrote:I thought that McCain should be the Antichrist. After all, those Left Behind bullshit authors claimed that the Antichrist will rise from the dead, and McCain, to put it bluntly, does look like a corpse (he probably is as intelligent as one).
That's later.

Honestly, if we're going to compare the candidates to political figures in fiction, McCain has a disturbingly close fit with The Manchurian Candidate.
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The narrator continues: "And he has anointed himself, ready to carry the burden of The One. To quote Barack, 'I have become a symbol of America returning to our best traditions.'"
Does this mean that Obama...is Jet Li?
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He is nobody's bitch! :lol:

Guys, how do you think McCain's slur campaign's gonna be? Frankly, I think it's absurd. But with people unsure as to whether "Obama is too skinny" is a parody or not, perhaps we're only just starting to realize the American public's tenuous grasp of sanity? :D
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While he's trying to paint Obama as the Anti-christ...it just makes him look more like a superstar.

I'm loving it.


Seriously, Obama should just about pay McCain for this ad.

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