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Firebombs Target UCSC Scientists

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The Mercury News wrote:Firebombs target UC-Santa Cruz scientists who use animals in research
AUTHORITIES DECRY RISE IN VIOLENCE 'IN THE NAME OF ANIMAL RIGHTS'
By Mary Anne Ostrom
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Article Launched: 08/03/2008 01:33:27 AM PDT

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Two University of California-Santa Cruz research scientists were targets of firebombs early Saturday, which authorities called a troubling sign of escalating violence against university researchers who use animals in their labs.

Santa Cruz police labeled the incidents "acts of domestic terrorism."

In the off-campus incident, a well-known molecular biologist and his family, including two small children, were forced to escape a smoke-filled house using a second-story ladder after a firebomb was intentionally set off, police said. One family member sustained injuries requiring brief hospitalization, and police are calling the firebombing, which occurred shortly before 6 a.m., a case of attempted homicide.

About the same time, a car belonging to a researcher parked at a home on campus also was firebombed, destroying the vehicle.

The violence occurred four days after a customer at Caffe Pergolesi, a downtown Santa Cruz coffeehouse, found fliers listing the names, home addresses, home phone numbers and photos of 13 UC-Santa Cruz science researchers and professors. Police believe unidentified animal rights activists created the fliers, which were made to appear as "wanted posters." They warned: "Animal abusers everywhere beware; we know where you live; we know where you work; we will never back down until you end your abuse." City and UC-Santa Cruz police contacted most of the people on the list to warn them.

Sophie Salama, who answered the
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phone at Professor David Feldheim's home Saturday and said she lived there, declined to describe what police said was a harrowing pre-sunrise scramble down a fire escape ladder with two young children. Feldheim's name and address had appeared on the flier.

"This is really horrible," she said.

Twelve hours later, firefighters were still trying to restore electricity to the house. The fire burned the front porch and melted the frame of the front door. Police said much of the home filled with smoke as a result of an incendiary device they would only describe as "significantly larger than a Molotov cocktail." A similar device was used to firebomb the car of a researcher. There were no injuries in that incident. Police refused to identify the owner of the car, but that person's name did not appear on the flier.

Caution encouraged

UC-Santa Cruz Chancellor George Blumenthal, in a statement, asked everyone in the university community to be vigilant in the wake of the attacks, encouraging them to report any suspicious activity to authorities.

"These are odious assaults on individuals and on the principles of free inquiry by which we live," Blumenthal said.

Santa Cruz police Capt. Steve Clark said Saturday's tandem events are the most serious in a string of events, including an attempted bombing of a Santa Cruz squad car in March 2007, that police believe are related to violent animal-liberation protesters. He said police have no suspects in Saturday's bombings, but have helpful witness statements about the firebombing of the house, including one from a neighbor who rushed to help put the fire out with a garden hose.

'String of attacks'

The FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives are leading the investigation. They were also called in after another UC-Santa Cruz scientist's family was terrorized. In late February, six masked intruders broke into the home as the family celebrated a daughter's 8th birthday.

"The pattern and string of attacks has been escalating against the research and science community here as well as at other University of California campuses," Clark said.

He called it "unconscionable that any person would commit this act of cowardice and terrorize individuals in the name of animal rights."

Feldheim researches the genetic and molecular processes involved in development of eyesight; part of his research, according to his Web site, involves the "viral introduction of genes into living mouse brains." His work has been published in national journals.

Authorities Saturday said they had called the scientists listed on Tuesday's flier again, and were offering security for those who wanted it.

Professors and researchers at the University of California-Berkeley and University of California-Los Angeles also have been targeted, including by firebombings in Los Angeles. More recently in Berkeley, nine hooded protesters showed up in front of a toxicology professor's off-campus home, scrawling "killer" in chalk on the doorstep and shattering the window of the home, and a window in a neighbor's home who scattered the protesters with a garden hose.

The Santa Cruz incidents occurred one day after a mass e-mailing by Stop Animal Exploitation Now!, or SAEN, highlighting what the group called "mounting violations of the animal welfare act" at private labs in Santa Cruz and Berkeley. Police would not say whether there is a connection between the group and Saturday's violence. Clark would only say authorities are looking at several animal liberation groups, including SAEN.

According to SAEN's executive director, Michael Budkie, who said he was in Ohio, the group researches and highlights public records regarding use of animals in research labs. He said the group does not use violent tactics and was not involved in the attacks Saturday in Santa Cruz.

Assemblyman Gene Mullin, D-San Mateo, who has been championing legislation to increase civil and criminal penalties in cases where academic researchers are attacked because of their work, said Saturday that he was saddened and surprised by dual firebombings.

But, he added, violence against researchers has been on the rise; while condemning the acts, he predicted Saturday's firebombings probably would prompt legislators to move on the bill.

Contact Mary Anne Ostrom at mostrom@mercurynews.com or (415) 477-3794.
Fuckers. This whole saga has actually been going on for almost a year now; it started with protests over a proposed new biomedical sciences building, which would have removed a parking lot and about 50 redwoods; then came the tree-sitters, who just basically live in the trees, illegally; then it graduated to breaking in to a professor's home during his daughter's 8th birthday; and now this.

The University's LRDP (Long Range Development Plan) is utter bullshit for a number of reasons, but these fucks have squandered any goodwill they had long, long ago, and oppose it for utterly stupid reasons.
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Do these people disproportionately come from upper middle class families? This seems like the sort of self-righteous lunatic crusade that could only come from people who don't have any real problems in their lives to worry about.
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Darth Wong wrote:Do these people disproportionately come from upper middle class families? This seems like the sort of self-righteous lunatic crusade that could only come from people who don't have any real problems in their lives to worry about.
They seek something "real" to take a stand on, to somehow add spice to their pampered lives... or that's my theory, anyway.

Like Patty Hearst-- she found adventure as a terrorist, so it became easy for her to become a romantic bandit type.
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Darth Wong wrote:Do these people disproportionately come from upper middle class families? This seems like the sort of self-righteous lunatic crusade that could only come from people who don't have any real problems in their lives to worry about.
Well the only other class of people who inhabit the area around UCSC are street people who are looking to score/sell pot. Santa Cruz like Berkeley, is another bastion of environmental fanatics with a lot of time on their hands. They're like anarchist with a more specific target in mind.
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As I said in the last thread on this issue, they need to start giving graduate students Security Assistantships.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:As I said in the last thread on this issue, they need to start giving graduate students Security Assistantships.
What is a Security Assistantship? That's the first time I've even heard of the second word.
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starslayer wrote:Shit, forgot the link
For some reason, that link isn't working for me. It opens up this page when I click on it.
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Phantasee wrote:
What is a Security Assistantship? That's the first time I've even heard of the second word.
IIRC the last time this came up it was a fancy way of saying "have the students moonlight as security guards for the professor".
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How often do the perpertators of acts like this get punished? I hear of plenty of attacks, but not many arrests.
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Phantasee wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:As I said in the last thread on this issue, they need to start giving graduate students Security Assistantships.
What is a Security Assistantship? That's the first time I've even heard of the second word.
Graduate students in the sciences do not typically pay tuition. Instead they are granted a teaching assistanship, or a research assistantship, where they either teach classes or help their PI do his research in exchange for a tuition waiver and a stipend.

In this case, they would perform security duties.
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Yeah, student security guards would totally stop your house being firebombed.

Oh... wait?
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Stark wrote:Yeah, student security guards would totally stop your house being firebombed.

Oh... wait?
If their research depends on their PI living....
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They'll.. what? Live out in the street and watch for organised firebombers 24/7?

Such 'security guards' would be most effective against random violence, not this kind of planned attack. I'd love to know what they'd do if they stopped some firebombers anyway; shoot them all? Get set on fire? As a deterrant or to stop random people trying to punch such a scientist, that might work. Against this organised kind of terrorism, not so much.
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Stark wrote:They'll.. what? Live out in the street and watch for organised firebombers 24/7?

Such 'security guards' would be most effective against random violence, not this kind of planned attack. I'd love to know what they'd do if they stopped some firebombers anyway; shoot them all? Get set on fire? As a deterrant or to stop random people trying to punch such a scientist, that might work. Against this organised kind of terrorism, not so much.
Well, it would work better against attacks on the lab than homes, but still. The thought amuses me
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I doubt it; if they're in a lab, they have way less chance of seeing it coming, and they're less 'student security guards' as 'additional victims'.
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Stark wrote:I doubt it; if they're in a lab, they have way less chance of seeing it coming, and they're less 'student security guards' as 'additional victims'.
I guess if they sat around drinking beer all night, they could piss like racehorses on the fire?
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Stark wrote:I doubt it; if they're in a lab, they have way less chance of seeing it coming, and they're less 'student security guards' as 'additional victims'.
I am referring to taking shifts patrolling... there are enough grad students in a typical research group that you can keep the building patrolled by several people at a time, 24/7
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Stark wrote:I doubt it; if they're in a lab, they have way less chance of seeing it coming, and they're less 'student security guards' as 'additional victims'.
I guess if they sat around drinking beer all night, they could piss like racehorses on the fire?
If they're drinking that much, they could be fueling the fire instead.
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Stark wrote:Drinking... in a science lab? Madness! :lol:
I have stories... My PI is german and looks so innocent he can get kegs past the guards...
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Stark wrote:Yeah, student security guards would totally stop your house being firebombed.

Oh... wait?
It's supposed to be humorous, Stark.
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So at what point do we take any one supporting the ALF and start rounding them up?

More of a reason why no one should ever donate money to PETA. It will eventually end up in the hands of these wackos.
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[R_H] wrote:For some reason, that link isn't working for me. It opens up this page when I click on it.
It went behind a subscriber wall. Here's an AP story on it.
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So, if they get caught, are they going to be called arsonists or terrorists? It's the difference between habeus corpus and Cuba, after all.
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