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Last Abortion Clinic in South Dakota Closes

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Planned Parenthood closed its doors after their abortionists, who are flown in from other states, refused to work under the new law.

SIOUX FALLS, SD (LifeSiteNews) - On Monday, July 21, eight women arrived at the Planned Parenthood office in Sioux Falls in South Dakota for abortions, but were instead met with locked doors and a hand-written note indicating the only abortion clinic in South Dakota was closed.

Planned Parenthood closed its doors after their abortionists, who are flown in from other states, refused to work under the new law that went into effect last Friday.

The law orders abortionists to inform patients of the humanity of their babies and that the procedure could affect their mental health two hours before the abortion is set to be performed.

The law also provides that abortionists can be sued if they do not comply.

This law was the brain-child of attorney Harold Cassidy and passed with the help of determined pro-life leaders Dr. Alan and Leslee Unruh, who pushed for the regulation in the face of opposition, even from some in the pro-life movement. The Eighth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals cleared the way for the law's enactment last week.

It remains unclear if the Planned Parenthood office has permanently ceased the practice of abortion. However, several women who were scheduled for abortions this week went to a pro-life center instead, where some have reportedly changed their minds about having abortions.

"The closing of this clinic is historic in that South Dakota is, for the time being, the first abortion-free state," said Operation Rescue President Troy Newman.

"It didn't take the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and it didn't take a new President or a new Supreme Court. It took the courageous determination of pro-life heroes like Mr. Cassidy and the Unruhs who saw an opportunity to save lives and pressed on until their dream became victory."

"We applaud their efforts and encourage other states to emulate their campaign," said Newman.

The Unruhs are currently involved in the Vote Yes For Life Campaign, which would effectively ban abortions in South Dakota, putting the finishing nail in the coffin of the abortion industry there.

Text of the new law and links to the court decision can be found at http://www.voteyesforlife.com
Haven't found anything about this in mainstream news.
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Me neither. More abortion business for the neighboring states, I suppose.
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What bothers me about this is at the doctor has to say that a unique human being is going to be killed by the abortion, but to say that a fertilized egg is a unique human being makes no sense unless you are of the opinion that one's humanity comes from their genetic code. Of course that would imply that identical twins are not unique people.

What I would like to see is a law requiring them to tell the women having the abortion about the fetus's development at that point in time. For example, inform them if they're having an abortion after 20 weeks that the fetus will probably feel pain, or that a fetus before 8 weeks doesn't have brain activity that registers on an EEG (feel free to correct me, but I think having brain activity is a basic litmus test for personhood).
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That's just wierd; required by law to inform them of the 'humanity' of their 'baby', two hours before an abortion? WTF?

I love the hilariously biased article though, thanks for that Invictus.
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Alot of people are going to die, honestly. Because there's always going to be abortions. They just won't be safe anymore.
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Stark wrote:That's just wierd; required by law to inform them of the 'humanity' of their 'baby', two hours before an abortion? WTF?
The timing in the law was no doubt intended to cause maximum emotional trauma to the patient. If this didn't work, no doubt the next law would have required them to wave pictures of bloody aborted fetuses in the patient's face for the duration of those two hours while screaming "MURDERER!" at her.
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Yeah, the two hour thing is just wierd, it's like 'penance time' or something. Psychological warfare as law?
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Stark wrote:Yeah, the two hour thing is just wierd, it's like 'penance time' or something. Psychological warfare as law?
They probably would have preferred to waterboard the patient until she saw the error of her ways, but they feared that the liberal media would make a national issue out of it.
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Good for SD. I for one am tired of not having complete control of the women around me. If they want independence then they should not have been born inferior to me. But they are, and thus they must serve me as penance for Eve's sin.
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This ruling is bullshit. It and the South Dakota law fail the undue burden test, the equal protection under law test, and the First Amendment test —as the dissenting justices Murphy, Wollmen, Bye, and Melloy point out in their minority opinion on the matter. The majority ruled on technicalities and their own metaphysics regarding the definition of "whole and separate being".

Count on this going up the appeals chain.
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Patrick Degan wrote:This ruling is bullshit. It and the South Dakota law fail the undue burden test, the equal protection under law test, and the First Amendment test —as the dissenting justices Murphy, Wollmen, Bye, and Melloy point out in their minority opinion on the matter. The majority ruled on technicalities and their own metaphysics regarding the definition of "whole and separate being".

Count on this going up the appeals chain.
That's the idea. These guys think the new SCOTUS is on their side, so they want it pushed to them to get them to come down on their side. They tried a harder law but PP got a referendum defeating it on the ballot and it passed.
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I've been wondering about this for a while, but someone explain exactly how the anti-abortion movement is a move by community leaders to control women and sex.
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Shinova wrote:I've been wondering about this for a while, but someone explain exactly how the anti-abortion movement is a move by community leaders to control women and sex.
It's really simple. In their minds, getting an abortion is a "get out of responsibility free" card for women who get pregnant. Which in their twisted little brains translates into the woman wanting to have as much sex as possible without dealing with the consequences. Thus, they feel as long as they can't "run" from the consequences of having sex (by getting an abortion), they will be inclined to have it less and their idea of what's "morally acceptable behavior" will be upheld.
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Shinova wrote:I've been wondering about this for a while, but someone explain exactly how the anti-abortion movement is a move by community leaders to control women and sex.
Spot the crossover between the groups that try to make abortion inaccessible and try to make things like the pill inaccessible.
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Shinova wrote:I've been wondering about this for a while, but someone explain exactly how the anti-abortion movement is a move by community leaders to control women and sex.
It's not, and there's mounds of polls showing that it isn't (most people who oppose abortion don't oppose contraception, and nearly all pro-life messages focus on fetus's being killed).

But some people pretend it is because they can't function without demonizing people who disagree with them. I once debated the issue with SirNitram, and he mostly chose to dodge the issue entirely by leaping to the assumption that everyone lies in polls and that only the opinions of Bush matter.
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Also see correlation between the extremists doing this stuff and the extremists promoting 'Purity Balls', easily the creepiest ritual I've seen, and I've been to a Catholic Mass.

The flagrantly dishonest may attempt to whitewash these correlations by announcing they found a study that asked if 'some restrictions' on abortion were reasonable, and found lots of people saying yes. But 'Some restrictions' and the anti-abortion, anti-contraceptive movement are not equal.

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Shinova wrote:I've been wondering about this for a while, but someone explain exactly how the anti-abortion movement is a move by community leaders to control women and sex.
It's not, and there's mounds of polls showing that it isn't (most people who oppose abortion don't oppose contraception, and nearly all pro-life messages focus on fetus's being killed).

But some people pretend it is because they can't function without demonizing people who disagree with them. I once debated the issue with SirNitram, and he mostly chose to dodge the issue entirely by leaping to the assumption that everyone lies in polls and that only the opinions of Bush matter.
God, must you rush into every time this is mentioned and lie? It gets boring.

Are you going to read my post, this time, if I respond to you? Or will you blithely repeat this outright lie and pursue this vendetta in deference to logic, facts, and the simple record that you run away at the first chance?
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CaptainZoidberg wrote: It's not, and there's mounds of polls showing that it isn't (most people who oppose abortion don't oppose contraception, and nearly all pro-life messages focus on fetus's being killed).
I'm sure the Catholic Church's propaganda about abstinence only isn't about controlling women either. :roll:
But some people pretend it is because they can't function without demonizing people who disagree with them. I once debated the issue with SirNitram, and he mostly chose to dodge the issue entirely by leaping to the assumption that everyone lies in polls and that only the opinions of Bush matter.
Oh fuck off. There's very, very few if any legitimate reasons to oppose abortions before the third-trimester that don't rely on either religious douchebaggery or some desire to control a woman's right to choose. If you think there is then prove it or shove your whining up your ass.
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Shinova wrote:I've been wondering about this for a while, but someone explain exactly how the anti-abortion movement is a move by community leaders to control women and sex.
Take a look at the following common anti-abortion catch phrases:

"Abortion on demand"
"Abortion as a form of birth control"

And then ask yourself why those kinds of abortion (which are universally vilified by all anti-abortion forces, even though they may disagree about other issues) are morally worse than any other kind of abortion.

You will not be able to find any answer other than an attempt to control female sexuality. It's a War on Sluts.
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I know there have been a couple threads lately about the anti abortion movement and how it seeks to control women, and I have wanted to answer them but have been unable to really put my thoughts into words. But since this is the third one or so, I figured it was time to give it a go...


I live in a strongly pro life area, and the groups that push and push in the movement here are mostly white men. They are the ones handing out "who the prolife candidates are" fliers around election time, they are the ones on street corners with signs and graphics, and they are the ones buying the ads all over town on billboards that direct pregnant women to prolife clinics (though the ads simply say "pregnant? scared? we can help. learn your options at: address/phone number).

I have had them look for my wedding ring when they see me with my kids and turn me away when I was pregnant with my first and unable to find health insurance (pregnancy is a pre existing condition on individual plans)

And even that...that pregnancy is considered a pre existing condition and other aspects of insurance: "abortion" is not covered by most group plans, which includes procedures to save women or procedures to abort a fetus that won't live outside the body....it's forcing women to carry a fetus with a death sentence to term and then birth that child just to watch it die.

If you can't see the control in all these things, I cannot help you...
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And let us not forget states trying to pass laws to require women to have ultrasounds before abortions or any other requirements on them before the procedure. Whether or not the ultimate goal is "saving babies" it's also control control control. Tell them what they have to do, make them only be able to see certain providers, make them cross state lines, make them listen to this speech or that speech in this or that particular wording, require providers to tell them false information ("fetuses feel pain" or the like even with early abortions), control who and where they can get medications....
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SirNitram wrote:God, must you rush into every time this is mentioned and lie? It gets boring.
Where have I lied? I haven't always seen eye to eye with you, but under no circumstnaces have I lied.
Are you going to read my post, this time, if I respond to you? Or will you blithely repeat this outright lie and pursue this vendetta in deference to logic, facts, and the simple record that you run away at the first chance?
I've always read your posts, and the last time I stopped debating because I was explicitly told by a senator to stop debating.

Nonetheless I'll say what I've always said from the beginning - most people who support restrictions on abortion do not support restricting all abortion or fighting birth control. The obvious conclusion is that they
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do differentiate between a 20 week old fetus and a fertilized egg, and therefore care about the development of the fetus, and not just restricting women's rights.
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I thought this article was pretty funny, but it also has some great links and info in it:

humorous Slate piece
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SirNitram wrote:God, must you rush into every time this is mentioned and lie? It gets boring.
Where have I lied? I haven't always seen eye to eye with you, but under no circumstnaces have I lied.
Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit.
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This is a lie. I simply pointed out that 'Some restrictions on abortion' does not and never will equal the banning of all surgical abortions, chemically induced abortions, or contraceptives that fail to allow implantation against the womb.

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only the opinions of Bush matter.
This is a lie. The plans and goals of the legislatures and movement leaders are what I have been discussing. I repeatedly make this point clear. You, on the other hand, ignore the text written, actively hallucinate new text, and criticize me on your strawman. Bush is ultimately a minor stooge in this. SD's lawmakers are part of this however.
Are you going to read my post, this time, if I respond to you? Or will you blithely repeat this outright lie and pursue this vendetta in deference to logic, facts, and the simple record that you run away at the first chance?
I've always read your posts, and the last time I stopped debating because I was explicitly told by a senator to stop debating.
Would a Governer telling you to shut the fuck up until you stop strawmanning me help? Check the tag.
Nonetheless I'll say what I've always said from the beginning - most people who support restrictions on abortion do not support restricting all abortion or fighting birth control. The obvious conclusion is that they do differentiate between a 20 week old fetus and a fertilized egg, and therefore care about the development of the fetus, and not just restricting women's rights.
Which has shit-all to do with banning morning after pills, restricting access to birth control and condems and other forms of contraception, banning abortion outright like here, the The Pill Kills movement, the public shaming movement, and everything else which is related to what I bring up.

In short, kid, you strawman. Every time you post, it is some form of fallacy. You simply retreat by this strawman because you cannot, and never will, confront my main points. You are dishonest and pathetic.
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