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Mystery ship #1

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Same rules as last week.

Using the quote function to read the URL is cheating. This one isn't all that hard anyway.

SeaSkimmer, I'm afraid you're disqualified, because if you don't know this one, I'll beat you with a stick.

Cookie time for the first correct answer, and please provide info as to how you come to your conclusions.

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(Has absolutely zero knowledge of ships.)
What if someone randomly guessed? :P
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Post by Baron Mordo »

The Merrimac?
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*Can't guess

*looks at URL Link
ITS THAT?

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Not the Merrimac, Baron Mordo.
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Post by IRG CommandoJoe »

Hmm...I'd say......the uh......Steamsailer-class ship. :P
(Looks at URL)
Oh well. :P
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Even naming the class of ship will earn you a cookie. Correctly, that is. Unless there are major differences from ship to ship, pinning it down to individual units in a class of several examples is just too hard.

Clue #1- This ship still exists as a wreck.[/i]
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The presense of both sails and prop suggests that it predates the first US ironclads. Is it an early British ironclad of some kind?
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Predates the first American ships by @6 months. And not British.
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French ironclad Gloire? The date and rigging are what make me guess that.

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Hmmm, I was going to guess british, but you already said no.
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The Dark wrote:French ironclad Gloire? The date and rigging are what make me guess that.

I am purposely not looking at the URL until Hipper tells whether I'm right or not.
Nope. Here's a photo of the mystery ship's sister on laundry day, though.

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Post by Kenny_10_Bellys »

The SS Teakettle perhaps? I read something about the development of propellor driven steam vessels, when they tied one to a paddle driven ship for a tug-o-war test and it towed it around the bay backwards. I'd guess it'd be one of those, still got sails just in case and not yet developed the gun turret. 1880's maybe? French? A boat?
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Im thinking something around the era of the American Civil War. If this thing is not US or British, could it be Russian?
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Actually, I can prob find this one, I have a HUGE encyclopedia of warships by class, in chapters by date. the problem is that finding it, in the book is going to take some time.
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Its probably french, looks about like their other ships in terms of style, definitely before the 1900s, prob before the 1890s.
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Found it!

Magenta
Other ships in class: Solferino
Construction started in 1859, completed in 1861.
It was designed by Dupuy d.e Lome.

Heh, bad fate too, this is from the book: On 31 October 1875, a fire took hold in the Magenta's wardroom galley, and the ship exploded and sank.

Edit: I passed it up the first couple times through that time period, the book has the pic of it painted differently.
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Magenta was carrying a cargo of antiquities at the time of her destruction. She was the subject of an archeological survey which focused on the lost sculpture, and not the ship. She and Solferino were also the only two-decker broadside ironclads ever built, which makes them instantly recognisable. Hey Jadeite, what book are you using for research? Sounds like a good one. :)
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To Jadeite- a cookie!
Magenta was carrying a cargo of antiquities at the time of her destruction. She was the subject of an archeological survey which focused on the lost sculpture, and not the ship. She and Solferino were also the only two-decker broadside ironclads ever built, which makes them instantly recognisable. Hey Jadeite, what book are you using for research? Sounds like a good one.
Thank you, lets see, the book is titled: "The Complete Encyclopedia of Battleships: A technical directory of capital ships from 1860 to the present day" its from 1983, has 324 ship classes over 272 pages, and has 1000 pics in it.
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Magenta was carrying a cargo of antiquities at the time of her destruction. She was the subject of an archeological survey which focused on the lost sculpture, and not the ship. She and Solferino were also the only two-decker broadside ironclads ever built, which makes them instantly recognisable. Hey Jadeite, what book are you using for research? Sounds like a good one.
Thank you, lets see, the book is titled: "The Complete Encyclopedia of Battleships: A technical directory of capital ships from 1860 to the present day" its from 1983, has 324 ship classes over 272 pages, and has 1000 pics in it.
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By Tony Gibbons. I read and "used" my copy until it fell apart. I took it to my tattoo artist because I was hoping he could do something for me with the photo in the Jaureguiberry listing. Last time I saw my FAVORITE book. I love how he has Dreadnought as a size comparison.
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Just looks like Warrior with another deck to my uneducated eye, although the bow is a bit off.
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