Family Blames School for Gay Son's Death

chitoryu12 · Post by **chitoryu12** » 2008-08-16 01:03am

Master of Cards wrote:
ArmorPierce wrote:He is not that old to be in the 8th grade. By the time most 8th graders graduate they are 14 so 15 is only one year difference that could have been caused by a number of things. The biggest I see is when someone moves from other countries followed by people failing.
No it is not in fact common to have 15 year olds in an 8th grade class. There was one in my class of 300, and she had to learn English so she got held back. Most of the kids were 13/14.

It's quite common, and in fact I've seen several who were older than that. It's very easy for it to happen, simply because a kid could have started school a year later. My friend, for example, is about eleven days older than me, but one year lower because she started late. Others either do poorly in kindergarten (another friend of mine) or their parents choose to hold them back (several people I grew up with). In fact, my cousin's school recommended that she repeat kindergarten simply because, while she's intelligent enough to skip first grade altogether, she's very tiny and frail, and they want her to physically mature so that she's in the same class as people of her size.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2008-08-16 01:29am

Yeah I actually knew a lot of people that were 15 in the 8th grade. One of my good friends got stuck into the 8th grade (they actually were going to put him lower but he took tests and got into where he was supposed to be) when he went into foster care. Their reason for make him stay was that they thought that it would be better for him socially since he knew these people rather than sending him to high school. It wasn't better for him but that's another story

I know a couple other foster kids personally that were basically in the same situation.

I know PLENTY of people who when they immigrated here they got stuck behind (dozens personally).

Then there are the people that were left back through grade failure.

Pelranius · Post by **Pelranius** » 2008-08-16 03:20pm

There are plenty of kids at my college in the incoming junior class who are already at least 21 (I'm one of them). I got held back a year in high school though, due to illness.

Though I think it's because some of them took an year off after high school graduation to play sports or something.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2008-08-17 08:15am

One question here, if this kid wasn't living at home what gives the family the right to sue anyone for the death of a child they weren't the legal guardians of?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2008-08-17 11:45am

Why would you think that?

Because police have an odd tendency to tell gay people to fuck off. I know a guy that was murdered and the cops ruled it a suicide (Kinda hard to commit suicide when you are tied to a chair and have a plastic bag taped around your head yes?)

And defense attorneys are legally obligated to do whatever they can to defend their client, so they will try to bias the jury pool with homophobes and get the little shit off. All they need is one slack-jawed hairless ape to hang the jury. Most of the time the prosecutor in those cases wont retry the case IIRC.

They still allow shit like that? I remember when my law teacher was calling bullshit on it in tenth grade. I mean, I know it would fly in deep south fundieland where everyone is inbred enough to buy it, but this took place in California for fuck's sake.

All they need is one dick to hang the jury. ANd the defense is legally usable. You try to get someone off on a black panic defense....

Gay panic defense, as in "I had to shoot cause he wanted to fuck me"?

Pretty much

Apparently he has been charged murder one. But then again with a possibility of a plea bargain, the charge might be lowered to murder 2 or even lower.

I am pleasantly surprised

I agree with you there, sue the school for letting the cromagnum fucktard bring a gun into school, suing for failing to enforce the dress code sound like a very weak case. Also, since you are more familiar with the case, have they filed a wrongful death lawsuit against said fucktard?

It is a stronger case potentially than the actual crime-prevention issue. A school can more reasonably enforce a dress code (and thus be negligent in the failure to do so) than stop people from bringing weapons to school.

Of course if the parents did not have custody due to negligence, then they may not have standing to sue... At least according to the supreme court.