About Q being involved in Star Wars vs Star Trek.....

Ben Ingram · Post by **Ben Ingram** » 2003-01-26 05:10pm

Haven't you realised that, if he is alive, he must contribute to the Force?
He powers clearly show he is connected to the Force, and, as seen in the novel with Hethrir and Waru, beings that can directly tap the Force are more easily influenced by Jedi than you or me!
This means Vader would be able to use his abilities to easily destroy Q

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-01-26 05:12pm

*Arms RPP-Rocket Propelled Poke, and slings over shoulder*

POKE!!!!!!!!!!

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-01-26 05:30pm

That's could actually be a good tactic to use against idiots who go "Q would just make the entire SW galaxy disappear!"

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-01-26 05:36pm

Q are one of two things

1. God Like Ominpotent Beings
2. An advance race thats faking it VIA either simple strong Mental Powers or minor ones combined with Portable Holo-Tech

Remeber the TNG eposided with Riker and the little Alien kid? Basicly Riker looses his short term memory and the kid finds him and takes him into his little Holo-room and in a baddly acted tear-jerking way trys to let Riker be the Hero and him the trusty sidekick but he's a good sidekick and a bad writer and Riker figures out its all fake

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-01-26 05:38pm

UNLESS Q is a physical manifestation of the force in the ST universe as SOME fanfic writers may be hinting at in their stories *cough cough*

Then Q is an agent of the force and thus cannot be influenced by force users.

Ben Ingram · Post by **Ben Ingram** » 2003-01-26 05:38pm

No, Waru was an agent of the Force and was VERILY easily manipulated by Hethrir.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2003-01-26 05:40pm

The Jedi have great problems with the YV because they have almost no link to the force therefore its not certain Q (or anyone in the ST verse) would be part of the force.

Ben Ingram · Post by **Ben Ingram** » 2003-01-26 05:41pm

Perhaps, but the Force is the only thing I see that could possibly give the Q their powers..........

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2003-01-26 05:42pm

Q2 is running on swedish tv right now...

My head hurts...

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-01-26 05:43pm

Its been heavily hinted in ST that the Q are EXTREMELY technologically advanced and that most of their power comes from this technology as can be seen in the Voy ep. when the Q civil war they give Voy crewmen Q weapons to fight.

Ben Ingram · Post by **Ben Ingram** » 2003-01-26 05:44pm

Then that means they're more human than we realize and can be killed.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2003-01-26 06:05pm

Ben Ingram wrote:Then that means they're more human than we realize and can be killed.

Oh, they can indeed be killed. The Q are not indestructable by any means. The episode "True Q" outlines this point-blank with the deaths of proto-Q Amanda Rogers at the hands of the Q community. That same episode, Q's mission was in part to eliminate Amanda if he could not repatriate her back to the Continuum.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2003-01-26 06:06pm

Oh, for the lack of an edit button.... Obviously, I was speaking of the deaths of Amanda Rogers' parents in the above post.

Ben Ingram · Post by **Ben Ingram** » 2003-01-26 06:28pm

I wonder if, like Waru, the Q are created directly from the Force, or if they've merely learned to use it, r what..

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-01-26 07:16pm

Ben Ingram wrote:I wonder if, like Waru, the Q are created directly from the Force, or if they've merely learned to use it, r what..

Seeing as "The Force" doesn't exist in Star Trek we should consider this question null and void.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2003-01-26 08:16pm

Or we can conclude that the Q will stand by their decision to stop mucking around with "lesser creatures".

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2003-01-26 08:26pm

Embracer Of Darkness wrote:
Ben Ingram wrote:I wonder if, like Waru, the Q are created directly from the Force, or if they've merely learned to use it, r what..
Seeing as "The Force" doesn't exist in Star Trek we should consider this question null and void.

Agreed.

Double-post fixed. ~Crayz9000

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-01-26 09:18pm

Ben Ingram wrote:Haven't you realised that, if he is alive, he must contribute to the Force?
He powers clearly show he is connected to the Force, and, as seen in the novel with Hethrir and Waru, beings that can directly tap the Force are more easily influenced by Jedi than you or me!
This means Vader would be able to use his abilities to easily destroy Q

Uh, dude, Q is Trek, not Wars, which are two different universes, so that would mean that they are not interconnected, as you would apparently like to believe.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-01-26 09:19pm

Ben Ingram wrote:I wonder if, like Waru, the Q are created directly from the Force, or if they've merely learned to use it, r what..

What the heck are you talking about? Q wasn't created by the friggen Force! It is Star Trek, the Force does not EXIST in Star Trek!!!

This is oddly reminiscient of the Warp 7 Hyperspace bomb...

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-01-27 10:06am

I may be an utter n00b here, but I think I can safely say that Inghram is a tit.

Admiral_K · Post by **Admiral_K** » 2003-01-27 11:28am

Stravo wrote:UNLESS Q is a physical manifestation of the force in the ST universe as SOME fanfic writers may be hinting at in their stories *cough cough* Then Q is an agent of the force and thus cannot be influenced by force users.

Given Q's behavior I would find that to be quite a bit of a stretch. Especially after some of the events we've seen on Voyager...

He plays too many games to be even considered in such a light =/. Unless ofcourse you are claiming he is somehow reformed.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-01-28 08:41pm

If the is no force in the ST Universe, would a Jedi or Sith have powers there?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-28 08:58pm

Humans and similar organisms create the Force. ST humans are the same as SW humans (don't make me explain the evolutionary odds against identical-looking species evolving separately). Therefore, the Force exists in the ST universe. They just don't use the same name for it. In ST, it would be known as "neural energy patterns" or "residual psionic energy" etc.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-01-28 09:13pm

Darth Wong wrote:Humans and similar organisms create the Force. ST humans are the same as SW humans (don't make me explain the evolutionary odds against identical-looking species evolving separately). Therefore, the Force exists in the ST universe. They just don't use the same name for it. In ST, it would be known as "neural energy patterns" or "residual psionic energy" etc.

For the love of...<gasp>...did you just treknobable the force? lol

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-01-28 10:43pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Humans and similar organisms create the Force. ST humans are the same as SW humans (don't make me explain the evolutionary odds against identical-looking species evolving separately). Therefore, the Force exists in the ST universe. They just don't use the same name for it. In ST, it would be known as "neural energy patterns" or "residual psionic energy" etc.
For the love of...<gasp>...did you just treknobable the force? lol

I feel so unclean

StarDestroyer.Net BBS

About Q being involved in Star Wars vs Star Trek.....

About Q being involved in Star Wars vs Star Trek.....

Re: About Q being involved in Star Wars vs Star Trek.....